I am facing a dilema which raquet to go with as a seemingly new Wilson has come to light; the Six One 100 v13. One of the concerns that I have with the Six One 100 v13 is its head size (100) to compare to the one of the Wilson Pro Staff 97 v13 97 inches headsize. I like the 323 g (strung) weigth of Six One but am concerned about the larger headsize. Then, I like the smaller sized head of 97 v13 but am worried about its heavier 332 g (strung) weight. To me, the Six One 100 v13 appears to be more for the intermediate players than advanced ones and it seems the untraditional Wilson Pro Staff headsize slows its swing too. What do you guys think? Have you got experiences with the Six One 100 v13 and can you compare it to the Pro Staff 97 here on the thread, please?
Wilson Pro Staff Six One 100 v13 vs Wilson Pro Staff 97 v13
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Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
3% difference in hoop size is not an awful lot. I can't imagine it would effect one's tennis performance in the slightest. But I'm sure someone on these forums will say it does. Likely a 6 hour old string bed will produce more variation in performance than racket that's a teensy bit larger than another racket.
tomkowy
Rookie
I have played with Pro Staff 97 v13 and multiple generations of different Head racquets. This Pro Staff 100 looks like Head Extreme Tour and Speed MP had a baby.
Head Graphene Touch Speed MP with a few grams of lead has very similar specs to Pro Staff 100 (weight, mass distribution, swingweight, twistweight, stiffness). I wouldn't be worried about slow swing because both racquets have low twistweight for current standards. Graphene Touch Speed MP has good control, OK spin, decent power, very maneouvrable, quite forgiving. Wouldn't call it an intermediate-only racket. It's more about your playstyle, as this racket fits baseliners. Jannik Sinner plays with it.
Pro Staff 97 is a "classic" racquet. Very even mass distribution with low balance result in low swingweight. It's very maneouvrable too but it's harder to play because of smaller head size. It's a bit stiff (but that is a personal thing). Control is great, power is decent. Good for attacking player who can play good volleys, slices, etc. However, you need to hit the sweetspot regularly to have fun with it. It's not that forgiving.
I would go for Pro Staff 100. If you're not a 5.0+ player who plays 4-5 times a week, Pro Staff 97 will be stopping you from playing your best.
Head Graphene Touch Speed MP with a few grams of lead has very similar specs to Pro Staff 100 (weight, mass distribution, swingweight, twistweight, stiffness). I wouldn't be worried about slow swing because both racquets have low twistweight for current standards. Graphene Touch Speed MP has good control, OK spin, decent power, very maneouvrable, quite forgiving. Wouldn't call it an intermediate-only racket. It's more about your playstyle, as this racket fits baseliners. Jannik Sinner plays with it.
Pro Staff 97 is a "classic" racquet. Very even mass distribution with low balance result in low swingweight. It's very maneouvrable too but it's harder to play because of smaller head size. It's a bit stiff (but that is a personal thing). Control is great, power is decent. Good for attacking player who can play good volleys, slices, etc. However, you need to hit the sweetspot regularly to have fun with it. It's not that forgiving.
I would go for Pro Staff 100. If you're not a 5.0+ player who plays 4-5 times a week, Pro Staff 97 will be stopping you from playing your best.
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Based on specs looks like biggest difference b/t the Speed MP and the PS 100 are that the PS 100 has same swing weight and static weight (323), whereas the Speed MP has higher swing weight (328) but lower static weight (318)
tomkowy
Rookie
Yeah, but it is a minor difference in my opinion.
Add 3 grams of lead total at 3 and 9 to PS100 and you get 326 grams weight, 32,8 balance, 328 swingweight, 14,3 twistweight
Add an overgrip (8 grams) to Speed MP and you get 326 grams, 32,5 balance, 328 swingweight, 14,4 twistweight
RA is the same (64)
They are fairly similar with Speed MP having a bit more polarized weight distribution. Different variations in the same segment of racquets in my opinion. Visually the biggest difference is the shaft: shorter and more angled on Wilson.
Ryebread
Professional
the 100 v13 is worth a demo for sure
it is VERY easy to pick up and gel with.
I'm playing it at 52lbs with a co poly.
I don't have a #1 stick right now. but this one has been in the bag and used often since I got it this summer.
ground strokes feel incredible with it, pretty good on volley
whippy headlight balance. good stability, esp for the weight.
it is VERY easy to pick up and gel with.
I'm playing it at 52lbs with a co poly.
I don't have a #1 stick right now. but this one has been in the bag and used often since I got it this summer.
ground strokes feel incredible with it, pretty good on volley
whippy headlight balance. good stability, esp for the weight.
esgee48
G.O.A.T.
The Racquet-hollics thread crowd had it as a short time favorite when their PK frenzy started, so you will need to go back a few pages. IIRC, the crowd liked its whip and spin. But it was superseded by the PK variations and Yonex frames. Now they're playing Zus(s), PT 2.0 and Dunlops in that thread.
pretty much what I did sans overgrip, about 6 pts HL at 326 grams strung
AceyMan
Professional
this makes me even *more* interested in this frame—I've always liked the Pro Staff feel and I have two PS97 v11 (=> I picked up the reissue to go with the one already in the bag).
Ryebread
Professional
It’s basically an egg shaped 98 like an Ezone 98 almost. Good upper hoop stability.
AceyMan
Professional
I always trust a man who says he likes good upper hoop stability.¹
The PS97v11 is "only" 315 grams but I don't need any lead in the hoop. (PWS for the win?!).
The RA is goldilocks but it's still easy on (my) arm. Truly a sleeper frame that W should just put in the permanent, classic lineup with the Hyper Hoops that still are on the peg.
/Acey
¹‒I'm not kidding.
97 has slightly more control. 100 has slightly more power and sweet spot. If you're an attacking player, 97 is better. If you're more an all around player or defensive player, 100 is better. I like the 100 better because my defense is better with it and the weight is the most I can manage. 100 still has great stability and control. I just wish the 100 was wider, to make it easier to spin the ball.
Isn't 100 305 g unstrung and 97 315 g unstrung? I think the 97 truly is an attacking player one but gives more power and less control than the 100 one that is 305 g. You could get the 340 g 97 Pro Stuff but that's a bit heavy for my juniors.
In my opinion, the 97 CV Pro Stuff is friendlier on the arm.
the CV 315 g unstrung is my choice
Yes, those weights are correct. The serve might be more powerful with the 97. I think the 100 has more power on other strokes. The balances are different, the 100 has higher swing weight. The 100 has 1 mm thicker beam width. The 97 and 100 both have a 65 RA stiffness. I think bigger head, more swing weight, thicker beam wins out over more overall weight which is mostly in the handle (except on serve).
Always interesting how different players feel about a frame - I think the v13 100 is very easy to spin the ball (one of the easier non spin frames IMO) with and I am coming from a Blade 98s.
I sense Blade 98 305g and the Pro Staff 305 g that you guys are talking about may be closer than Pro Staff 305g and its other Pro Staff series racquets. I mean if the head is larger, the raquet's family with smaller head size series cannot match. I believe that this isn't the best attempt to produce a Pro Staff racquet that fill in the gap in between its series of 290 g L and 315 g ones. This gap's given issues to youth tennis players who've needed to trasfer into heavier raquets at ages of 12-13 but had their worries over the heavier Pro Staff 315g one. Why couldn't the producers keep the head size of the new Pro Staff 305 g the same as its other Pro Staff racquets at 97 inches?
I am glad they didn't and made the v13 100, helluva frame and as other have said plays more like a 98, IMO a very under the radar excellent all around frame
My current racket is the DR98 weighted up to 12.3oz. I had previously considered the PS97v11 while looking for a little more power (when the DR98 was only weighted to 11.8oz) and better feel over my current racket, but felt the PS97v11 had a hot spot that would launch the ball unpredictably sometimes. I haven't hit with the PS97v13, but have heard that it might have addressed the hot spot at the cost of power.
I hit with the PS100v13 and really liked the racket. Felt it had a large sweet spot, good power, good spin (especially on serve), good stability even at its stock weight and most importantly, good feel. The racket came around pretty easy even with my OHBH. Would like to weigh one up to 11.9-12oz / 6-7 points HL with my string of choice (full bed of Alu Power Rough) before committing though.
I hit with the PS100v13 and really liked the racket. Felt it had a large sweet spot, good power, good spin (especially on serve), good stability even at its stock weight and most importantly, good feel. The racket came around pretty easy even with my OHBH. Would like to weigh one up to 11.9-12oz / 6-7 points HL with my string of choice (full bed of Alu Power Rough) before committing though.
UCSF2012
Hall of Fame
If your decisions are based on specs, then buy whichever. You're doing it wrong anyway. Why don't you take both rackets to the court. Do some forehand/backhand drills. Serve drills...point, aim, fire. Based on the results, make your decision.
I have both. They're not remotely close in shot capabilities.
I have both. They're not remotely close in shot capabilities.
