Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Jenda, Jun 9, 2014.
All I am able to say is that this information originated directly from Wilson.
Thanks Jenda. Have you heard anything about the layup of these sticks? Braided graphite/kevlar?
hope the paint job looks good the new PS2014 looks like Shiz, and i hate the gloss paint because it peels and chip faster.
although the thick beam might take away from the looks i was hoping they could have made it a flat beam( not thin but just flat like the BB tour control)
A whole lot of people speculated it to be 22mm because of the prototype's similarity to the Pro Staff Classic 6.1/Six.One series. So there.
If it plays like the PS 6.1 Classic or Six-One 95, I for one won't be switching to it.
If it does then I question its existence. Those Pro Staff Classic 6.1/Six.One series are already very forgiving and powerful.
I can also verify that Wilson was the source of the information.
please tell me that your username has something to do with the racquet's paintjob
Leaving it stealth black with a little red RF signature would look awesome.
That would be called Limited Edition and retail for $150 more.
Maybe he's a Scorpions fan?
Interesting name for a frame. a bit long though.
No. No one in the thread I am refering to speculated it to be a 22. It wasn't until after I stated it is a modified H22 that posters first ridiculed me, and shortly after I made my last post did posters start believing it "could be" a 22. Before that, nearly everyone felt it was a 18 or 19 mm, including you based on photos they saw, instead of believing someone who has seen the frame first hand.
And for the record, I wasn't "speculating."
Yes, to me the racket always seemed very close to that of pt57a gsame hoop shape, same throat, same beam width and thickness) so given that the h22 is virtually the same thing (correct?) it makes perfect sense. Add the pws and you have a 97 sq. inch head size or there abouts which is at the same perfect marketing move.
They should have called it the ULTRA or ULTRA PWS
Yep, Wilson's H22 is their version of Head's PT57A but stiffer.
I heard $219 as a price
Ok wow.. I would say 20-21, but not 22..
Yeah, I'll pass.
Actually the suggested retail is $250 for the RF97 and $230 for the rest.
yea but a pt57A is not 22 mm beam, so it is a different animal
Knowing Wilson they will go the exact opposite way and come up with some fugly paint job :|
I'm a huge Federer fan, but not certain I could take the court with a racquet that had "RF," all over it without feeling, I don't know... Odd. If it actually has his name on it that would be very odd. People will get labeled poseurs. Otherwise sounds great save the thick beam.
That's exactly how I feel. I love Federer, but when I go out on to the court I want to be me, not him.
True. All I can say is that when I played with Stepanek's Head Speed, which I am fairly certain is the same mold as Djokovic's stick which is also 22mm beam it didn't feel all that different from my pt57a. It was visibly thicker compared to my racket though.
Wow, even worse. Thanks for the info.
Hard to justify paying that much for a racquet when there are so many other less expensive choices. But I guess Wilson needs to find the money to pay Federer his $2 million a year for life from somewhere.
I don't know. I don't think anyone thought anyone using a Jack Kramer Autograph was a poser.
H22 and PT57A have nothing in common. The H22 throat is different. It is a 22mm frame. It is stiffer and more powerful.
H19 is closer to the PT57A, 21mm (vs. 20), soft (even softer than the 57A), still more powerful though. Different string spacing though.
Both Wilson's are 98sq in, PT57A is a 95
Well in that case I stand corrected as I do not know much about the H22.
So it carries the ProStaff name but has a round beam, not a box one?
The Six.One series started its life as a "Pro Staff" Classic 6.1. The Pro Staff line was HUGE back in the day with many different models, not reduced to one model like today.
my h22 has the same stiffness rating as my pt57a (both 58 flex), but I do agree the h22 feels stiffer and more powerful, also more stable.
H22 is powerful indeed and feels tank like. When I need that big serve or groundie, it doesn't disappoint!
H19=Prestige MP/Pro Tour 630
Now if Wilson would only start selling the H19...
And why don't they? Same reason that Head no longer sells the Radical or Prestige?
Perhaps because if they sold it, people would love it so much that they will never buy another racquet. And that would negatively impact Wilson's future sales.
I'm happy with my trusty PS85. But I wonder if Fed's new racquet will take inspiration from it. His first slam came from this racquet no? And Edberg is the coach. Full circle.
The paint job I mean.
That could be it. THe H22 I have is the only one I did not put on the RDC machine yet... But definitely feels (much) stiffer than the 57A (mine measured 55). My H19s measured 53 and 54 but feel considerably softer than the 55RA 57A.
PS. I am still puzzled that Federer would go from:
90 to 98 sq in
18mm to 22mm
65 stiffness to 58
racket after so many years...
How do you know the racquet is 58 stiffness?
From comments he made to the press at Aussie Open, Dubai and Indian Wells, it sounds like he tested some 60 prototypes. And I think it was after Indian Wells that he said he was testing five after Aussie Open, with the only difference between being different stiffnesses. It could be that he ended up preferring something with stiffness of 58, but like you say it seems more likely that he would prefer a stiffer layup. Only one poster who claims to have laid hands on his match 90s ever claimed to put one on an RDC (Art Art). And Art Art claimed it was a 68.
I remember hoping they wouldn't stop making wood racquets.
Like my dear old dad used to say:
You can hope in one hand and blow your nose in the other......let's see which one fills up first.
I would imagine these type of frames can come in different stiffness ratings. I was surprised my h22 measures a 58, being that it feels much stiffer. As for Fed, who knows what his flex rating may be. Given the fact my h22 feels just as "solid" as the 90's, I could imagine his frame could very well be under the flex of his 90's. The beam itself is so much thicker than the 90, that may compensate enough to not have to have the same flex. Just my thoughts. We will see.
They have to stay on the 2 year cycle. It does not matter anymore if the racquet is good or bad. They will sell X amount of units in 2 years and then come out with new BS to sell.
No, neither. Federer won his first Slam with a HPS Tour 90 (or at least the paintjob of one). But it was a Tour 90 and not a PS 6.0 85.
But that was my point. If they put out too good of a racquet, customers will get off of the 2 year upgrade cycle and not buy another new racquet until their current one wears out, which could be decades.
so i saw this picture of fed Racket and it seems like to me that it looks like a flat beam!!! i remember that the the older prototype was that of a round beam it seams like they changed it to accommodate Fed
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