Wilson Revolve vs Revolve Spin

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
Before I order a couple of sets to demo. I thought I'd ask the board if anyone has played both versions. And how these two compare to each other. Obviously the Spin version will produce more rpms. But what about feel, power, control and most of all... playability duration?
 

Martves613

Rookie
I would suggest not to try Revolve spin. For me it lacked control, touch and especially feel. I felt disconnected to the stringbed. It gives some extra RPMs but it is not worth it. Durability is not bad but I just cut it out before 4 hour mark, that´s how bad it felt.

EDIT: AAAND Revolve and Revolve Spin are completely different strings in characteristics.
 

BenC

Semi-Pro
If you have any interest in Revolve 16 gauge I can cut out a few sets from my reel ... I'm not fond of the stuff and I'm pretty much done with it.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
I still have a set of Revolve but never tried it after trying Revolve Spin. It was a completely average, or worse, string in just about every category except that it was quite muted and comfortable. Spin was average and no better than a round string, power and crispness were low, and it just felt like a dead poly with no liveliness in it.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
It was a completely average, or worse, string in just about every category except that it was quite muted and comfortable. Spin was average and no better than a round string, power and crispness were low, and it just felt like a dead poly with no liveliness in it.
I'm assuming that you're referring to this Spin version in this quote?
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I would suggest not to try Revolve spin. For me it lacked control, touch and especially feel. I felt disconnected to the stringbed. It gives some extra RPMs but it is not worth it. Durability is not bad but I just cut it out before 4 hour mark, that´s how bad it felt.

EDIT: AAAND Revolve and Revolve Spin are completely different strings in characteristics.
What frame and at what tension were you playing the Spin version? And have you ever tried the regular version?
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
If I can remember correctly... you're a TBHS7T user aren't you? I've played with TBHS7T twice recently. How would you compare the two?
Yes, you're right - S7T is my current go-to string. It and Revolve Spin are almost diametrically opposed in how they play. S7T is crisp, with better than average power levels and a fair amount of feedback on every shot. Revolve Spin is pretty muted and doesn't grab the ball as well, and also doesn't last as long.

I wrote my impressions about the string right after using it in this post:


That set was the 1.30 gauge, which I was kind of set on using at first. I've come to almost the other extreme of now using pretty thin gauges. So it is possible that Revolve Spin in a thin gauge would have better bite on the ball but I think its inherent qualities of being pretty muted and low powered would still come through.
 

Rozzdawg

New User
Yes, I only tried the set of Revolve Spin and was dissatisfied enough with it not to try the standard Revolve.
I have played both and would really recommend regular Revolve; so much pop, a tonne of spin and some great free and easy power. I use 16 gauge Revolve in my Pure Aeros and Pure Strike 18x20. Works great in both. Sometimes feels like it was made for me with the Pure Aero. Strike I have to work for it more but still awesome.

I know you tried Spin, but I would also urge other players to avoid it. It's just dead feeling, as in completely dead. I wouldn't use 'low powered' or 'muted', simply dead. Doesn't seem to work even half as well in either of my rackets.
I am ashamed to say I bought a reel without testing it. I wanted it mostly for colour, love the green, and it was in a great sale. I did think it would be slightly more similar to regular Revolve after reading some stats, but I was very much mistaken.

Love Revolve, hate the Spin version. Interesting how Wilson got it so right, then so wrong with the sibling.
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
I have played both and would really recommend regular Revolve; so much pop, a tonne of spin and some great free and easy power. I use 16 gauge Revolve in my Pure Aeros and Pure Strike 18x20. Works great in both. Sometimes feels like it was made for me with the Pure Aero. Strike I have to work for it more but still awesome.

I know you tried Spin, but I would also urge other players to avoid it. It's just dead feeling, as in completely dead. I wouldn't use 'low powered' or 'muted', simply dead. Doesn't seem to work even half as well in either of my rackets.
I am ashamed to say I bought a reel without testing it. I wanted it mostly for colour, love the green, and it was in a great sale. I did think it would be slightly more similar to regular Revolve after reading some stats, but I was very much mistaken.

Love Revolve, hate the Spin version. Interesting how Wilson got it so right, then so wrong with the sibling.
It’s funny how much rackets make a difference with strings. I’m just the opposite - much prefer revolve spin over regular revolve. I don’t use either very much but have a little bit of both left. The regular revolve - My daughter sometimes likes it as a cross, so I keep it around for her.


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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I have played both and would really recommend regular Revolve; so much pop, a tonne of spin and some great free and easy power. I use 16 gauge Revolve in my Pure Aeros and Pure Strike 18x20. Works great in both. Sometimes feels like it was made for me with the Pure Aero. Strike I have to work for it more but still awesome.

I know you tried Spin, but I would also urge other players to avoid it. It's just dead feeling, as in completely dead. I wouldn't use 'low powered' or 'muted', simply dead. Doesn't seem to work even half as well in either of my rackets.
I am ashamed to say I bought a reel without testing it. I wanted it mostly for colour, love the green, and it was in a great sale. I did think it would be slightly more similar to regular Revolve after reading some stats, but I was very much mistaken.

Love Revolve, hate the Spin version. Interesting how Wilson got it so right, then so wrong with the sibling.
I just ordered a couple of sets of the Regular Revolve. I used it a couple of years ago in a PS97 Countervail and remember liking it. So I'll see soon if it's any good.
 

Rozzdawg

New User
I just ordered a couple of sets of the Regular Revolve. I used it a couple of years ago in a PS97 Countervail and remember liking it. So I'll see soon if it's any good.
Let me know how you find it! Which colour did you go for? I find they play slightly differently.
  • White felt slightly softer and more powerful (when it lost playability it really fell off a cliff...that said I think I used it for over a month and a half, maybe 2 before this happened).
  • Black felt like it was slightly stiffer, slightly less power, but felt more predictable (also felt like it lost playability more gradually but lasted less time).
 

Rozzdawg

New User
It’s funny how much rackets make a difference with strings. I’m just the opposite - much prefer revolve spin over regular revolve. I don’t use either very much but have a little bit of both left. The regular revolve - My daughter sometimes likes it as a cross, so I keep it around for her.


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Absolutely! Rackets and play style/physicality has a huge impact, all equipment my hitting partner loves I can't stand, and visa versa.

What rackets and tension do you use? I would ideally like to make Spin work for me as I have almost a full reel lying around I could use.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
Let me know how you find it! Which colour did you go for? I find they play slightly differently.
  • White felt slightly softer and more powerful (when it lost playability it really fell off a cliff...that said I think I used it for over a month and a half, maybe 2 before this happened).
  • Black felt like it was slightly stiffer, slightly less power, but felt more predictable (also felt like it lost playability more gradually but lasted less time).
I ordered the black. I figured the black would be a tad stiffer thus maintaining tension better.
 

Mischko

Rookie
Revolve and Revolve Spin have nothing in common, and Revolve Spin is much more modern (2017). It's just Wilson marketing who gave them the same Revolve name. Revolve Twist also has nothing to do with the previous two. Those are not different variants of the same string, such as Luxilon ALU Power and ALU Power Rough, they are completely different.

Revolve is an older round poly with a slippery coating which gives it lots of snapback when fresh (first 30ish minutes). Then the coating wears off and strings characteristics change, but it remains OK, but different. Medium power, medium tension maintenance.

Revolve Spin is comparable to Solinco Hyper G and Yonex Poly Tour Pro/Spin, it is a low powered, slightly muted and dampened but still stiff not mushy total control string with 5 edges. However, is also has a superslippery coating which gives it super snapback for the first 30ish minutes, so in the beginning it doesn't feel underpowered, because of the snapback. This also applies for Yonex Poly Tour Pro and Spin. After the coating wears off it remains stable, total control very low powered dampened stiff string. Like YPTP/S and SHG it is more suited to people who tend to keep the ball in play, absorb pace, redirect and counterattack than to attacking style players. For an attacker it is too low powered (after the coating wears off), because you kind of force it, it lacks power and it leads to unforced errors.

Revolve Twist is not bad, I have to say. It is much more suited for attacking play than Revolve Spin, and it progresses nicely, stay very good till it breaks. Medium power, it has some kind of rounded ridges so it maintains snapback. Slightly stiffer but never harsh or uncomfortable, not even in a stiff racquet. I would kind of put it in the same category with Revolve but much better, it is a much newer string.

Summary, Revolve Twist is the best, but if you like dampened control low powered then Revolve Spin is equally good, and it is epic really in the first half hour. Original Revolve is not on the same level, it loses tension etc.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
Revolve and Revolve Spin have nothing in common, and Revolve Spin is much more modern (2017). It's just Wilson marketing who gave them the same Revolve name. Revolve Twist also has nothing to do with the previous two. Those are not different variants of the same string, such as Luxilon ALU Power and ALU Power Rough, they are completely different.

Revolve is an older round poly with a slippery coating which gives it lots of snapback when fresh (first 30ish minutes). Then the coating wears off and strings characteristics change, but it remains OK, but different. Medium power, medium tension maintenance.

Revolve Spin is comparable to Solinco Hyper G and Yonex Poly Tour Pro/Spin, it is a low powered, slightly muted and dampened but still stiff not mushy total control string with 5 edges. However, is also has a superslippery coating which gives it super snapback for the first 30ish minutes, so in the beginning it doesn't feel underpowered, because of the snapback. This also applies for Yonex Poly Tour Pro and Spin. After the coating wears off it remains stable, total control very low powered dampened stiff string. Like YPTP/S and SHG it is more suited to people who tend to keep the ball in play, absorb pace, redirect and counterattack than to attacking style players. For an attacker it is too low powered (after the coating wears off), because you kind of force it, it lacks power and it leads to unforced errors.

Revolve Twist is not bad, I have to say. It is much more suited for attacking play than Revolve Spin, and it progresses nicely, stay very good till it breaks. Medium power, it has some kind of rounded ridges so it maintains snapback. Slightly stiffer but never harsh or uncomfortable, not even in a stiff racquet. I would kind of put it in the same category with Revolve but much better, it is a much newer string.

Summary, Revolve Twist is the best, but if you like dampened control low powered then Revolve Spin is equally good, and it is epic really in the first half hour. Original Revolve is not on the same level, it loses tension etc.
Why do you think Revolve Twist is better than Regular Revolve? Just because it's newer? Revolve Twist looks like a round poly with a couple of swirly ridges on it that will obviously wear off in an hour tops and then become a round poly just like regular Revolve. With proper technique you don't need a couple of swirly little ridges to create spin.
 

Mischko

Rookie
Well not just because it's newer, but also because it's newer. Newer co-poly strings are much better in maintaining their characteristics much longer, better additives, heating and other technical reasons. Just better technology really.

Revolve Twist will become sort of a round poly after a while, but I can clearly feel the ridges in the sweetspot even after 4h of play, there is roughness to the hitting surface. And I hit hard and with spin, my strings don't last. And yes, you really don't need ridges for spin, only in rare examples I lack spin in round co-poly strings, and I prefer round or rounder strings. For example Solinco Confidential is great but I would really like an octogonal version, this sharp 4 sided version is too grippy and a bit inconsistent, sometimes it grips totally, sometimes less, depending on various things.

But nevermind the ridges, I think Revolve Twist is better than original Revolve (it was initially called Ripspin) because of tension maintenance primarily, and overall feel of the strings. They are good on the first hit, and the second, and the third, and if they don't break I start thinking of cutting them out, but I always conclude that there's no reason. They are still responsive, tough and elastic, they havent cut into themselves or thinned in the middle, not baggy or dead, balls are not flying everywhere. Even if I do cut them out they snap with a clear pop and mains detach a lot indicating remaining elasticity. Similar to Solinco Confidential that I cut out 20min ago, those two are comparable actually, same type of string, same category of power and control, but see above. So an OK consistency and feel from the beginning to the end.

On the other hand, many strings are great in the beginning but then either totally change or totally lose tension or get thin in the middle or cut into themselves etc. All of that is typical for many older co-polys. Newer materials get higher molecular density but less stiffness because of newer additives and technology, they just maintain their properties noticeably longer. Original Revolve loses most of its slippery coating after the first hit, but not all of its snapback because it loses tension and I can feel it. Second hitting practice is already a different string, third hitting it already starts flying, strings get baggier and just used. If they don't break I cut them out, and by then they will lose most of their elasticity due to elastic strain, from just being tensioned in the frame, and of course hitting the yellow ball.

I also have to add that for many people that progression toward deader baggier string will be welcome, many people don't like freshly strung co-poly because it is too stiff for them. Which is perfectly fine, do what is best for you. Also for many people Revolve will last forever, so everyone's perspective is different. If a player can find their sweet spot performance wise, price wise etc. with any string it is all good.
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
Absolutely! Rackets and play style/physicality has a huge impact, all equipment my hitting partner loves I can't stand, and visa versa.

What rackets and tension do you use? I would ideally like to make Spin work for me as I have almost a full reel lying around I could use.
Spin - I’ve used it in six ones, 93p 18x20, pure drive plus, pure aero, and probably a couple of others. Tension is from 45 in the 93p to 52 in a six one.

I’m not really using it anymore but I like the string. You can really hit out. I get a lot of spin with everything so I’m more about feel in Polys right now. Some of the newer polys have really good feel.


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Rozzdawg

New User
Spin - I’ve used it in six ones, 93p 18x20, pure drive plus, pure aero, and probably a couple of others. Tension is from 45 in the 93p to 52 in a six one.

I’m not really using it anymore but I like the string. You can really hit out. I get a lot of spin with everything so I’m more about feel in Polys right now. Some of the newer polys have really good feel.


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Interesting, thanks. I'm reluctant to lower tension as I usually string high 50s. Having said that, maybe I'm stringing Spin too high, could be my fault I'm not enjoying it.
 

tigonian02

New User
Found this thread after trying Wilson Revolve Spin. To say I’m disappointed may not do it justice. I tried this string as I’m looking for a decent alternative to Luxillon 4G. Wilson Revolve Spin is not low powered…it’s dead. It gives you nothing, even in a powerful racquet. Everything about my game worsened (except for volleys). I will probably cut these out today. My search for a 4G alternative continues.
 

Yamin

Professional
Found this thread after trying Wilson Revolve Spin. To say I’m disappointed may not do it justice. I tried this string as I’m looking for a decent alternative to Luxillon 4G. Wilson Revolve Spin is not low powered…it’s dead. It gives you nothing, even in a powerful racquet. Everything about my game worsened (except for volleys). I will probably cut these out today. My search for a 4G alternative continues.
Tension loss is pretty high with revolve spin so it should open up a bit and pick up some power. Revolve is very good but revolve spin is forgettable. It isn't much different on power though.
 

FIRETennis

Professional
Revolve - slick round
Revolve Spin - 5 edges similar shape to Hyper-G but way softer
Revolve Twist - twisted similar shape to to Cyclone Tour similar softness

To make things even more confusing, regular Revolve says "Spin" on the package. and the Spin and Twist versions say Spin + Durability (<- ?).
I find Revolve works pretty good as a cross with natural gut. I don't notice the tension loss. It's pretty average poly tension maintenance.
I use it when restringing crosses with the natural gut mains. My usual setup is Element crosses but when the gut looks questionable, I put in the cheaper Revolve just in case I get only 1-2 more hours out of the stringjob.
 
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1HBHfanatic

Legend
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Revolve Spin - 5 edges similar to Hyper-G
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-just adding to your post,
-i am currently playtesting sol.hyp.G and wil.rev.SPIN,, both strings are very different
-only real similarity is the color and shape?!
-wil.revolve.spin is softer
-sol.hyp.G is noticeably stiffer
-i tend to like softer polys, so i like w.rev.spin over the stiffer solinco strings
-some people tend to prefer the solinco feel, so ill leave it at that, to each there own
 

FIRETennis

Professional
-just adding to your post,
-i am currently playtesting sol.hyp.G and wil.rev.SPIN,, both strings are very different
-only real similarity is the color and shape?!
-wil.revolve.spin is softer
-sol.hyp.G is noticeably stiffer
-i tend to like softer polys, so i like w.rev.spin over the stiffer solinco strings
-some people tend to prefer the solinco feel, so ill leave it at that, to each there own
Oh yeah, for sure. I edited my post to reflect that.
Revolve is a very soft poly, almost gummy and not crisp - possibly why some people find it too elastic or do not like the tension loss associated with it.
I don't find it loses more tension than Cyclone Tour for example based on RacquetTune.
Hyper-G will maintain tension better, will be more crisp, stiffer so somewhat more 'control'.
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
Spin - ...

I’m not really using it anymore but I like the string. You can really hit out. I get a lot of spin with everything so I’m more about feel in Polys right now. Some of the newer polys have really good feel.
This is it's main advantage. The disadvantage to standard revolve, unless you bring like 5 racquets to a match freshly strung, is it changes characteristics about 30 mins into the match. It is very slippery to start, but that coating wears off quick, and you go from a super spinny slippery almost forgiving string to an average low-powered poly that performs more like Big Banger Original. I am OK with this because I used BBO before and like it, but there are a few other choices out there that play like BBO and Revolve after they settle that are a bit more affordable. Yonex Poly Tour Tough immediately comes to mind, though it is even a bit lower in power, more like the original Rip Spin from Wilson.
 

Archie

New User
I went through 8 sets of Wilson Revolve 16g, 6 sets of Wilson Revolve Spin 16g on my Head 360 Speed MP.

Revolve: quite soft comparing to most polys
On this open string pattern it did't last longer than 3-4 training sessions (sometimes it was already broken after 1.5h) but this frame is a string eater IMHO
In a full bed, Revolve had avesome slice, very good directional control and spin.
The same things I found on Head 360+ Speed Pro with Revolve 17g - tammed power, good control\spin.
I also tend to use this string where I need to tam the power of some frames like new Head 360+ Speed MP which unplayable with other mid-power strings because of frame trampoline effect

I also used Revolve 17g in a hybrid with NG at 24\25kg on the PS 97 CV - it was very good, not harsh at all. After some time I noticed that Revolve started to move so 24,5-25 would be OK too...despite of TWH's 192 stiffness index.
Is was also surprising to me that according to TWH stiffness for Revolve 17g is higher that for 16g....

Revolve Spin: even softer than a regular Revolve and potentially produces more spin (but I didn't notice much difference).
Power is low - less than Revolve
Spin also less durable (due to its softness) than reg.Revolve. Felt very good but due to the lack of durability on that frame I could not use it.
For a player with not very hard strokes or a different frame this string should be very good - in other words it is a very good for most people;)

I also used 4 sets of hydrid (Revolve Spin in mains and Revolve in crosses) which took most of both strings but durability of Spin in mains also wasn't high.

Now I have a reel of Revolve Twist 16g and I'm going to try it...
 
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1HBHfanatic

Legend
@Archie
-how does w.revolve/w.revolve.spin compare ,(in regards to DUABILITY) with OTHER 16g polys you have tried??
-the whole premise of w.revolve is the slick factor, for better/longer snapback and thusly reduce string friction and prolong string life
-any notable "extra time" while using w.revolve/spin?
 

Archie

New User
-how does w.revolve/w.revolve.spin compare ,(in regards to DUABILITY) with OTHER 16g polys you have tried??

It is tough to remember all of the 16g strings in the certain conditions (summer, clay courts), but I can recall some of them in terms of durability (from low to high):
LXN Smart
LXN Element ~ Wilson RevolveSpin
Wilson Revolve ~ Polyfibre Panthera
LXN Adrenaline
Wilson RipSpin
Kirschbaun MaxPower Rough
Technifibre BlackCode

-any notable "extra time" while using w.revolve/spin?

yes, probably 1.2-1.3 times
 
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