Wilson Rok

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  1. nobullshft

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    Another pro at my club and I were talking about old racquets and such and the Wilson Rok came to mind, love this thing! But he also said, you love any racquet hard on arms don't you. But I generally hit the sweet spot and don't have a tight grip at all so have never had trouble. But yeah the shape of the racquet seemed almost square!! Loved it.


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  2. treblings

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    the Rok isn´t hard on your arms. i find it very comfortable. i just spent the last few months playing with it again, since i´m between rackets right now.
    the only thing i find hard is finding new rackets that are as comfortable as the Rok or older Prestiges and Radicals.

    and yes, hitting the sweet spot helps:)
     
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    I know not entirely knew but a racquet that is extremely like it is the Kblade tour 93. Played very similar. But beyond that I have enjoyed the new speed pro.


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  4. treblings

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    thanks, i have to test the new Speed Pro
     
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  5. Ronaldo

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    Great racquet with a tight string pattern. Still have one
     
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  6. teachingprotx

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    I loved the feel of the rock the lay up was heaven . Just could never get any topspin what so ever . Which is weird cause I play with 18x20's but for some reason with the rock no spin / topspin
     
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  7. Shaolin

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    I remember the Rok. Lowest power frame Ive ever tried and I only use low powered frames. Kind of like a lightweight Prestige mid. Beautiful racquet and I loved the head shape.

    Very strange racquet…not sure who they were targeting for this frame. Too demanding for a rec player but too light to for most 5.0+ players to enjoy. Kind of a cool for them to give it a try and put on the market but I'm not surprised it was short lived.
     
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  8. Ronaldo

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    Guys I've met who used a PS all loved this racquet. Never saw one buy it though.
     
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  9. Shaolin

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    I used a PS 6.1 for about 70 years, was prob using it when I tried the Rok too.
     
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  10. Ronaldo

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    One guy called the PSC a wet noodle. Cannot imagine what he thought of The ROK! Ironic he had to use a real wet noodle, Yonex SRQ-500 due to TE
     
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  11. Crocodile

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    Very closed string pattern and low powered hence high control. Was a very flexible frame but the dense string pattern made it feel firmer than it really was. Definately flexible for a Wilson but not like a 7.1 pro staff zone.
     
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    I bought a couple when they first came out; still was using the 6.1 Classic at the time and just could not adapt to it. Not enough pop and spin because the middle of the stringbed seemed so dense. Looking back, if Tour Bite 18 was out back then, it would've helped. I think I strung mine up with 16 or 17g syngut, so it didn't really help at all.
     
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    My doubles partner used this frame when it came out with Gamma 1.20mm aramid wrapped nylon string. A very dead set-up.
     
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  14. big ted

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    i think its the closest thing to a wooden racquet you can get these days without actually being a wooden racquet
     
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  15. joe sch

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    Not really that light, almost 12oz via specs from http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93.
    Pretty flexible, nice control racket. I still have a few of these classics.

    Wilson HYPER PRO STAFF ROK 93

    Specifications:
    Length: 27 inches / 69 centimeters
    Head Size: 93 square inches / 593 square centimeters
    Weight: 11.8 ounces / 335 grams
    Balance Point: 12.875 inches
    33 centimeters 5pts Head Light
    Construction 19.5mm Straight Beam
    Composition 90%Graphite/10%Hyper Carbon
    String Pattern 18 Mains / 20 Crosses
    Flex Rating 60
    Swing Weight 323

    The Wilson Pro Staff Rok 93 features a 18 x 20 string pattern. The pattern is very dense in the centre of the racquet, making for a small sweetspot that affords the user lots of control. The Rok 93 is generally termed as a control orientated racquet for this reason.

    There are two different Rok 93 versions. The first released has 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side while the second version released has wilson in silver on the throat are. The first version is 10g heavier. As a control racquet, users are advised to string at a lower tension than they may do for other racquets.
     
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  16. treblings

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    i have about 10 Rok 93´s and always wondered whether the difference between the two versions was merely cosmetical:)
    love my Roks and still play them from time to time. string weight of 21/19 kg works well for me with this frame
     
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    I still play with one. Slapped leather on it and strung it with a poly/multi hybrid in the mid-high 40's and this thing is golden.
     
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  18. LuchoVena

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    Would you know if those specs are strung or unstrung?, and if it refers to the first heavier model (+10g) with the "Hyper Carbon Double Braided" logo on the outside throat or the second one with the "Wilson" instead?

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    Specs from the tennis wiki at: http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93
    I would expect "unstrung"

    Consider this also:

    There are two different Rok 93 versions. The first released has 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side while the second version released has wilson in silver on the throat are. The first version is 10g heavier. As a control racquet, users are advised to string at a lower tension than they may do for other racquets.
     
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    I had the wilson rok lite version . Still was heavy to me . I think the lite version was only sold in the Asian market . I bought mine used online . I think it came out close to 12 oz strung with all the grips I applied leather , and shock absorber .
    I wanted to love it and I did love the shape of the head , the way the racket felt in a ready position was sublime backhands one handed flat drives were amazing , slice APlus ,volleys awesome . Wonderful flex characteristics. Only one problem .
    No topspin allowed . Literally no top . I've only hit a few dead flat forehands on mistake . The dead flat one . You know the one .. the one where the threading on the ball is at a dead still as it flys thru the air.
    With the rok I could hit that ball all the time . But .. I didn't want to as it was the only shot I could hit on the forehand . Still to this day I've never hit more dead flat forehands than with any other racket . And .. and and - I've even hit with a pro kennex micro strung frame and could get some degree of topspin with the rok , none .
     
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  22. joe sch

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    Great to see those seams on a flat blast !
     
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    Yes I agree when your trying to hit it ! Not when it's the only one you can hit :( I tried and tried with that rok , man.... I wanted to love it . Probably a good thing as the lite versions are tough to find . But then again everything that I like is tough to find . It's been a challenge my whole life:)
     
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  24. LuchoVena

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    Ive also seen ROKs with RED top bumper guards, and black side grommets on both 'Wilson' and 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side versions.
    Ive seen others with all of it black.

    Is that an indication of anything?
     
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  25. !<-_->!

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    The red bumper guards were meant to designate them as demo rackets for shops iirc.
     
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  26. Povl Carstensen

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    Mine says Wilson on the throat, so second version I guess. Am I right that the weight difference is mainly in the grip? Mine felt relatively head heavy (compared to other "players" rackets), and I have added some lead to the grip. Btw, I think I get quite good spin...
     
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  27. teachingprotx

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    Agreed . I loved the aesthetics of the Rock like a in reverse paint job of a head prestige .
    Loved the head shape one of my all time fave ever produced .
    I wish Wilson should reconsider bringing this one back to market in a more open pattern . They could even market it as a spin model by giving us a 16x17 or whatever but just open up that string bed. Now more that ever ( depending on the volume of sales with the new Wilson tour monfils') they may sell a few of these roks with a open pattern .
    I personally enjoyed the lite' version which I think was 11 oz unstrung .
    Since the movement is going lighter maybe use the lite' version to bring back. Just fun thinking .
    That frame was almost perfect in so many ways .



    QUOTE="Shaolin, post: 11090368, member: 11"]I remember the Rok. Lowest power frame Ive ever tried and I only use low powered frames. Kind of like a lightweight Prestige mid. Beautiful racquet and I loved the head shape.

    Very strange racquet…not sure who they were targeting for this frame. Too demanding for a rec player but too light to for most 5.0+ players to enjoy. Kind of a cool for them to give it a try and put on the market but I'm not surprised it was short lived.[/QUOTE]
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  28. anirut

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    ROK no topspin? I can get decent topspin out of it. No problem.

    Is string a factor here? I have mine strung with mains Wilson Sensation 17 @50 and cross Luxilon Adrenalin Rough @46
     
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  29. jorel

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    Old racquet............heh
    Anyway when it came out Granville compared it to a Cabernet...others in between a prestige classic and pt630

    High praise nice racquet..very fragile tho after cracking it on the fence
     
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  30. treblings

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    Granvilles review was the main reason i bought my first ROK
    here´s a quote:

    "Granville, ever the connoisseur, did not find the lack of power in the ROK a problem, saying, "yes, there is a slight drop in power, but the result is a racquet where you can hit out and enjoy good depth. Passing shots are a real treat, as the extra millisecond of string contact (due to flex) seems like seconds. I often found myself enjoying the diminishing resonance of my racquet after a crosscourt backhand winner, like I would enjoy the lingering tannins of an excellent Bordeaux wine."
     
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