Wilson six one 95 18x20 2017

4-string

Professional
That's what I read somewhere if I'm not mistaking.

No, I haven't hit the current one. I used to own a pair of the 2014 model, and I still own the RF97 (red/black version). IMO the RF and the 6.1 are similar, and in the same weight class.

Personally I found the 6.1 to swing much easier than the RF, but I like everything else much better on the RF97.

In any case, the 6.1 is heftier than the regular PS97.
 

SamBruin7

Rookie
The 2017 Six One swings lighter than the 2014 version in my experience and feels closer to the 2012 version.
The RF97 feels similar in weight and swingweight but is way stiffer. The RF97 feels a lot like the 6.1 Classic.
Haven't hit with the PS97 which is really light and like a toy in comparison to the above racquets.
 

JonnyAbs

Semi-Pro
I have seen a lot of people mention that they would like a 16x20 or 18x20 version of the PS 97, so this re-release could be trying to cater to people who want these specs.
 

SW1

New User
Shameless bump for this frame...

Has anyone else hit with this latest six one (2017 - 18x20)? And if so, could you tell me more about it please...power level, how does it feel stiffness-wise, and most important to me, is it sluggish or whippy feeling on serve?

Thanks in advance guys.
 

bkfinch

Semi-Pro
The 2017 Six One swings lighter than the 2014 version in my experience and feels closer to the 2012 version.
The RF97 feels similar in weight and swingweight but is way stiffer. The RF97 feels a lot like the 6.1 Classic.
Haven't hit with the PS97 which is really light and like a toy in comparison to the above racquets.
That's interesting, the listed stiffness for the Six One should be higher than the RF97, and the dense stringbed should in theory help it feel stiffer.

I would be curious if anyone can compare the 2017 Six One to the Classic 18x20... (I'm assuming Kevlar > Basalt for feel, even if Classic is stiffer)
 

SamBruin7

Rookie
bkfinch, have you hit with both racquets? The RF97 is one stiff racquet and feels just like my Classic 6.1. They both have this uniform stiff feel from tip to handle whereas the Six One feels like it bends in the head more. Numbers don't tell the whole story and you just have to play with them to compare. String bed stiffness is another story. Yes the 18x20 feels boardier on the strings. Basalt seems to make the racquets feel muted and the early plain graphite and kevlar has a more raw feel.
 

bkfinch

Semi-Pro
Thanks Sam

I've hit with the RF97 but not much of the Six Ones or Prostaff Classics in 18x20. I have a BLX Six One Team which I've brought up to 360g, it's solid but missing that 'je ne sais quoi' (is it the same drill pattern as the normal Six One 18x20?) The listed RA of the Team is 62, so I assume the feel would be quite different than the Six One 18x20 or PSC.

The RF97 (2017) is indeed stiff and I find it uncomfortable and harsh. However, the PS97 is supposedly the same stiffness and I have one which I've weighted up and strung with 4G at 60 and it feels great, firm and solid without harshness (if they really do flex the same way then I would ascribe the comfort difference then to the weight distribution). The PS97 feels like it flexes lower in the head, not much up top, the top is quite firm in a good way. I wouldn't call that one uniformly stiff. I like the stiffish feel but miss the predictability of an 18x20. (I wonder if spin goes a bit out the window with stiff flex and dense pattern: the 2014 Six One scored lowest on topspin in the TW review)

From your description it sounds like I would appreciate the Six One more than the Classic. I don't know if the Six One reissue will come to Canada (the Classic definitely won't), so I'll have to see about demo possibilities.

Again thanks for your response
 

Bottle Rocket

Hall of Fame
I'm a bit surprised there isn't more discussion about this racket. I bought an RF97A only because Wilson discontinued the six.one, and though I am enjoying it, it's heavy, and it demolishes strings. And it has Roger's face on it.

I played with the version prior to the BLX 18X20 for many years (still have them) and am now quite interested in this version. And it's $129 new!? Hard to resist...
 
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Addxyz

Professional
I tried this with the default strings that came with it. It's supposedly Sensation at 55 lbs. I was not able to keep anything in with this racquet. I took it to a pro shop and he said the tension felt low, maybe low 50s. I'm going to get it strung with NXT 17 at 58 to see if that cures my problem...


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mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
This update (*paint only) feels lighter than the 2014 version to me for some reason. Plays nicely with somewhat muted feel, but I didn’t really care for the string it came with. I think I’m going to string it up with full poly.
 

NuBas

Legend
Never played with previous versions but can confirm it does swing light and even easier if you add leather grip. I think its a good racquet to try diff strings.
 

Dominic

Semi-Pro
Shameless bump for this frame...

Has anyone else hit with this latest six one (2017 - 18x20)? And if so, could you tell me more about it please...power level, how does it feel stiffness-wise, and most important to me, is it sluggish or whippy feeling on serve?

Thanks in advance guys.
the 2017 six one 95 18x20 and the previous one feel identical to me. Power, is typical of a classic 18x20, Low (Low in comparison to the Modern Rackets out there of course). Control is, difficult to beat. Nothing much out there is any better. I feel the stiffness is middle of the road - not super stiff at all. The 18x20 pattern adds a bit of 'stiffness'. It's on the Heavy and Sluggish Side, but then compared to what. Swingweight must be round 335.
Serving - is an absolute Dream of a racket. I always find 18x20 so accurate on Serve, and plenty Power. If I had a racket for First Serves only - this is it.

The SixOne is an a much Different league to the PS97. The PS97 is decent, plenty Power, no where near the same control as the SixOne95. I find the PS97 very erratic.
the PS97 is lighter, lower SwingWeight.
If you can wield the SixOne, nothing much out there is significantly better.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
Really? Have you demoed all the recent popular ones? That is a bold statement, could you compare any other racuqets to the 6.1?
I agree. The downside being if you can’t wield it, if I had an off night, then I might as well be swinging a boat anchor. Love that stick though.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Great racquet, I string mine with Hyper G 1.25 @ 45. 6.1 18x20 plays great, easy on the arm. Very controllable off the ground, serves and returns. Volleys really well and the only racquet I would consider playing with other than the RF97. PS97 would be my least favorite of these three racquets.
 
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ShahofTennis

Professional
Really want one, perhaps if/when the price goes down. Me and my only 95D are inseperable at the moment.

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NuBas

Legend
I agree. The downside being if you can’t wield it, if I had an off night, then I might as well be swinging a boat anchor. Love that stick though.
Hmm guess not even newer technology can replace the good old heavy headlight racquets. All the more reasons for them to think about bringing back PS90 :D
 

Dominic

Semi-Pro
Really? Have you demoed all the recent popular ones? That is a bold statement, could you compare any other racuqets to the 6.1?
Hi NuBas. I have Demo'd a lot of rackets out there. RF97 (played with for about 1 yr), Yonex330 (Stan), SixOne95 (Played prior to RF97), Angel, PS85, PS90, I am a total Rackaholic...Babolat Pure Control Tour, Prestige's, you name it, I have Probably hit with it.
Im 46 Years Young, been Playing tennis since a baby :). 5.5 Player...Certainly I feel the SixOne95 (18x20) 'off the shelf' is difficult to beat, if that is the type of racket one likes... There are plenty Great control rackets out there, no denying that.
The SixOne 95, has some weight (+330 Grams unstrung), 95 sq/inch head and 18 x 20....Not much 'off the shelf' compares, if you are looking for control and Accuracy....
Maybe my wording should day - SixOne95, in my Top5 Control Orientated Rackets.
 

Fintft

Legend
I own all the BLX 6.1 95, the latest being the 2014 16X18.

Then I moved to 97s and now to 2017 97A.

BLX 16X18 had tons of control (the 2014 one being the most HL) and decent power, 97s have more power and 97A even more so ,if one can harness it on the FH side (definitely it's easy to hit hard on the 1HBH though).
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I see that some of you are having problems with poly hurting your arm in this frame. Not sure where your tension is at. But with a 95 square inch head and an18x20 pattern, you should be stringing your poly in the low to mid 40s.
I am at 45 with Solinco Hyper G and believe I could go even lower. May drop the crosses a couple of pounds and go 44/42. Awesome racquet. Stringing too high with poly will make you pay in most racquets but escpecially in a 95 18x20.
 
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TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I am at 45 with Solinco Hyper G and believe I could go even lower. May drop the crosses a couple of pounds and go 44/42. Awesome racquet. Stringing too high with poly will make you pay in most racquets but escpecially in a 95 18x20.
Are you dropping the crosses because you believe that it will let the mains slide a little easier thus allowing more snap back "spin"? Or are you doing it for "feel"?
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Are you dropping the crosses because you believe that it will let the mains slide a little easier thus allowing more snap back "spin"? Or are you doing it for "feel"?
Combination of results hopefully. It may add spin production but also softens the string bed even more without sacrificing control. More accustomed to playing at lower tensions so a couple of lbs of tension is not a big difference playing with Hyper G. Not sure there would be more feel but certainly easier on the arm by dropping the crosses down a couple of lbs.
 
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moon shot

Hall of Fame
I strung a few different ways to try to tell if there was a benefit one way or another for me. I’ve read that on a string meter the mains have often have around 35% more tension than the crosses so I thought crosses higher than mains might give some unidirectional performance benefit. I think the results are not comparable to other string patterns.

1. Strung 51/47
This racquet has the mains which moved back into position most forcefully. The feel was more crisp but felt more powerful. The crosses would shift around fairly easily.

2. Strung 47/51
In this racquet the mains moved back into position relatively slowly. The crosses moved in a similar manner. The strings moved similarly in both directions but I didn’t like how it played. It was the least crisp and less powerful.

3. Strung 50/50
This frame was as I expected, more firm than the second, strings snapped back in a fairly expected manner (easier than 1).
 
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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I strung a few different ways to try to tell if there was a benefit one way or another for me. I’ve read that on a string meter the mains have often have around 35% more tension than the crosses so I thought crosses higher than mains might give some unidirectional performance benefit. I think the results are not comparable to other string patterns.

1. Strung 51/47
This racquet has the mains which moved back into position most forcefully. The feel was more crisp but felt more powerful.

2. Strung 47/51
In this racquet the mains moved back into position relatively slowly. The crosses moved in a similar manner. The strings moved similarly in both directions but I didn’t like how it played. It was the least crisp and less powerful.

3. Strung 50/50
This frame was as I expected, more firm than the second, strings snapped back in a fairly expected manner (easier than 1).
Agreed, the higher tension on the crosses to me just seems to maintain tension longer in full poly and allow the string bed to stay in the racquet longer. The higher tension on the cross stringing with synthetic gut crosses seems to help make the string bed more controllable.
 
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moon shot

Hall of Fame
Agreed, the higher tension on the crosses to me just seems to maintain tension longer in full poly and allow the string bed to stay in the racquet longer. The higher tension on the cross stringing with synthetic gut crosses seems to help make the string bed more controllable.
These were all with full poly. I would think syn crosses would need to be a fair bit higher to not feel as if the racquet only has mains.

Not that pro players dictate my choices but I was interested in the difference after reading Wawrinka plays 61/57 lbs while Guga played 55.1/59.5. Not that I need to string that high but I wanted to see the different ball they might hit.

I think while I might like crosses strung lower at low tension with a stiff string I might like a soft string at high tension with the crosses higher than the mains. My thinking being at high tension this would allow the mains to be displaced easier.
 
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travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
My BLX 6.1 95 feels amazing with kevlar/zx at 90/40, both prestretched. Also have tried this racquet with full bed silverstring st 80/40 - would go with 80/35 if I were to do full poly again.

Full bed poly at 53/53 hurts my elbow.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
I played with the 2017 Six.One 18x20 for an hour with the pre-strung strings (Sensation) and hated it. It felt very boardy and lacked plow. I was coming from the HPS 6.1 16x18 strung with multis.

Since my Six.One playtest I've switched to the RF97 with natural gut in the mains and 4G in the crosses. It is now my everyday stick and it has great plow, feel and comfort. I think the RF97 really is meant to be played with natural gut though.
 

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I played with the 2017 Six.One 18x20 for an hour with the pre-strung strings (Sensation) and hated it. It felt very boardy and lacked plow.
It felt boardy because Wilson pre-strings these frames with Sensation at 57 pounds. 57 pounds of ANYTHING is going to feel boardy in a 95 square inch head with an 18x20 pattern. The Six One 18x20 will play wonderfully with a full bed of a low/medium stiff poly strung in the low to mid 40s.
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
It felt boardy because Wilson pre-strings these frames with Sensation at 57 pounds. 57 pounds of ANYTHING is going to feel boardy in a 95 square inch head with an 18x20 pattern. The Six One 18x20 will play wonderfully with a full bed of a low/medium stiff poly strung in the low to mid 40s.
True I love 57-60 lbs full poly in my tc95 18x20 stiff and tons of control
 

brownbearfalling

Hall of Fame
Good to hear postivie reviews on this frame. I still have a stock pile of the 2011 Six one Blx 95 18x20 but very curious about this frame. As long as there is not amplifeel on this verison I'm sold.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Wilson Revolve 1.25 at 45. Ready to hit with the frame and see what it will do. Hyper G 1.25 may be the best so far.
 
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Addxyz

Professional
I’m still at 45 with Hyper G and the string bed is staying controllable couple of weeks in. Great racquet. May switch completely next year from the RF97 Black.
Interesting... I have mine strung up with multi at 58 and felt it was decent, not great. I maybe try it your way.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Have a half set of 17g natural gut left and thinking about trying a gut/poly set up in this racquet. Since have been playing 45 in a couple of different poly strings going to try 48/45 and see how it does.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Tried Gut/poly in this racquet at 48/45 and liked the way it played with poly better. Strings needed to be tighter, maybe around 52/49. Wilson a Revolve in the frames now and ready to get out and see how it hit. May be headed back to Hyper G.
 
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