Wilson Sporting Goods! We want a ProStaff 6.0 90!

Do you want Wilson to introduce a ProStaff 6.0 90?

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armand

Banned
Jerky Jerk said:
somehow I doubt RCS will have the pull to bring the racquet to Canada
Well, it can't hurt Jerkie Jerk!:mrgreen:

Bp: Wow, with cars, they have all the certification, crash testing, emmision regulations and such to go through. Bringing over a simple little tennis racquet should be a cinch! But hundreds of thousands, millions? I don't imagine that even the most popular of racquets get close to that. Do they?
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
adely said:
Bp: Wow, with cars, they have all the certification, crash testing, emmision regulations and such to go through. Bringing over a simple little tennis racquet should be a cinch! But hundreds of thousands, millions? I don't imagine that even the most popular of racquets get close to that. Do they?
I'm not sure but I had to make the numbers sound huge to get Wilson's attention, right? ;) But I wouldn't doubt that the PS 6.0 85 has sold millions worldwide over its product lifecycle, and I don't see why this racquet couldn't do the same. I mean, a lot of people bought the PS 6.0 85 because the best player in the world, Pete Sampras, used it, right? And it's the same with Federer and his racquet, isn't it? And I guess one could even make a case that Federer is even more dominant than Sampras ever was.

BTW, you're right about the cars. It's a heck of a lot more complicated than with tennis racquets. With racquets, you can just ship them here, as is, without any modifications. It still amazes me that VW was willing to go through all the modifications and testing just to sell a few hundred R32's here.

BTW2, did you see that I did as you requested and made a plea to TW?
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=107471
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
adely said:
Cool BP, you tha man! I'm glad you're the one who did it; no one could hope to match your eloquence
Thanks, adely! ;)

Hopefully, TW will be able to convince Wilson what a wise business decision that would be. :D
 

comit

New User
Break Point

>BTW, do you have any idea why Amer Sports is selling this racquet only in Japan?[/QUOTE]

No,I have no idea.

However,Amea reintroduced Ultra 2 for about 400 dollars in Japan this February and the number of reintroduction was limited to 1000 rackets.
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/tennismax/360823/365335/639806/#565844

Probably Ultra 2 were almost sold out.

So it is quite natural that Amea think that n-Six One Federer will be sold out.

Additionary,ProStaff 85 has many loyal fans in Japan.You can easily find PS85 in stock at ProShops.
 

comit

New User
>if you check the site again, they updated it to say that the materials are the same :( I guess the quest for the 6.0 90 goes on[/QUOTE]

Ichiki san,who is the owner of the shop, says he noticed that Amea Japan's web says n-Six One Tour 90 uses kevler in material,so he corrected the description of his page

http://wilson-ncode.jp/products/nsix1_tour.htmly

According to this page,Hi Modulus grphite is nCoded.
However I doubt the Federer Signature model use the same nCoded graphite.
 

Exile

Professional
I want to see every single "great" racket ever made, sold again.

They would make a killing off of people like us. They could call it like the select series or something like that.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
comit said:
Ichiki san,who is the owner of the shop, says he noticed that Amea Japan's web says n-Six One Tour 90 uses kevler in material,so he corrected the description of his page

http://wilson-ncode.jp/products/nsix1_tour.htmly

According to this page,Hi Modulus grphite is nCoded.
However I doubt the Federer Signature model use the same nCoded graphite.
Thanks, comit!

That web page says that the High Modulus Graphite is nCoded and that the Graphite is also nCoded for the regular retail version. But how about the Federer version? Do they know if the High Modulus Graphite and the Graphite in the Federer version are both also nCoded?

In any case, I think the most important thing we need to establish here is whether or not the Federer version has any HyperCarbon in it, like the regular retail version does. Can Ichiki-san confirm this?

Thanks
 

PaulC

Semi-Pro
Preferred Spec. for PS 6.0 90

weight: 12.1-12.2 strung
stiffness: 65-66
balance: 8 pt H.L.
color/finish: black with silver accent / matt or glossy, glossy preferred
process: same as asian PS Tour 90 -- St. Vincent process
 

geesechops

Semi-Pro
comit said:
However,Amea reintroduced Ultra 2 for about 400 dollars in Japan this February and the number of reintroduction was limited to 1000 rackets.http://www.rakuten.co.jp/tennismax/360823/365335/639806/#565844

Probably Ultra 2 were almost sold out.

So it is quite natural that Amea think that n-Six One Federer will be sold out.

Additionary,ProStaff 85 has many loyal fans in Japan.You can easily find PS85 in stock at ProShops.
I love JAPAN!!! I lived there for a year (2003) and they always had the coolest stuff. They are more informed, detail oriented consumers. I mean check out that brand new Ultra 2!!!! I would love to get one of those...that's it I moving back after I graduate. Oh, and they have the best fast food joint on the planet >>> "cocoichiban!!!!"
 

Richie Rich

Legend
geesechops said:
I love JAPAN!!! I lived there for a year (2003) and they always had the coolest stuff. They are more informed, detail oriented consumers. I mean check out that brand new Ultra 2!!!! I would love to get one of those...that's it I moving back after I graduate. Oh, and they have the best fast food joint on the planet >>> "cocoichiban!!!!"
ya, but you live in a 10x10 apartment and pay the earth for everything. nice to visit but wouldn't want to live there
 

pham4313

Professional
true...my friend said for an apartment, the living room is also the kitchen as well as bedroom...basicly 3 in one
breakpoint, if real federer racket material is no more than high modulus graphite, its basically the same as the PS tour 90 except for special hole drill more open pattern and shorter handle.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
pham4313 said:
breakpoint, if real federer racket material is no more than high modulus graphite, its basically the same as the PS tour 90 except for special hole drill more open pattern and shorter handle.
Not true. The PS Tour 90 also contains HyperCarbon. HyperCarbon is much, much stiffer than just plain old high modulus graphite. It's not the same thing.

We're also not sure if the Federer version has the same weird weight distribution of the PS Tour 90/nCode 90 or the much better weight distribution of the PS 6.0 85/95. For Federer's sake, I hope it's the latter. ;)
 

allez

New User
Hyper carbon and/or Ncoded graphite is actually a good thing. Without it, the upper hoop is too flexy, and the racquet is not stable (i.e. PS 95 Original); shots are not uniform. With Ncode, you sacrefice a little bit of "feel" and gain a lot more stability and predictability when hitting the ball. You can "plough through" the ball better against balls with strong pace and spin.

What we really need is a NSix-zero 95 with 20 mm beam and same spec as the N61 95 on everything else, do we, gang?
 

SFrazeur

Legend
allez said:
Hyper carbon and/or Ncoded graphite is actually a good thing. Without it, the upper hoop is too flexy, and the racquet is not stable (i.e. PS 95 Original); shots are not uniform. With Ncode, you sacrefice a little bit of "feel" and gain a lot more stability and predictability when hitting the ball. You can "plough through" the ball better against balls with strong pace and spin.

What we really need is a NSix-zero 95 with 20 mm beam and same spec as the N61 95 on everything else, do we, gang?
Your going to find this opinion not very popular.
 

Keifers

Legend
I don't think Wilson will ever admit that Federer doesn't play with nCoded graphite. They have too much invested in the marketing of nCode.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Keifers said:
I don't think Wilson will ever admit that Federer doesn't play with nCoded graphite. They have too much invested in the marketing of nCode.
You're probably right, Keifers! But then again, I don't dislike nCoded graphite as much as I dislike HyperCarbon. The nCodes do indeed feel more stable to me but HyperCarbon tends to make frames too stiff and rob them of some of their inherent feel.
 
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PrestigeClassic

Guest
comit said:
At Japanese discussion BBS,some people say that this signature model's mold is different from actual federer's one.

You can see the Federer's actual model at
http://marutomi.cocolog-nifty.com/tameblog/2006/03/post_b6c6.html

I circle the difference at
http://www.comit.jp/misc/fr01.jpg

I doubt there is any difference.
Hmm. Can you elaborate on what 'difference' there would be in the circle that you made?

It's tough to say in the pictures so far, but the Federer Signature mold looks the same as the previous retail molds. It's still different from Federer's actual mold, but the lower shoulder area that you circled seems the same on both molds.

As you know, Federer's frames have a shorter handle, but they also seem boxier with sharper edges and flatter angles, like the 6.0 85, whereas the retail molds look like they ate a donut. It's a subtle difference.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
comit said:
At Japanese discussion BBS,some people say that this signature model's mold is different from actual federer's one.

You can see the Federer's actual model at
http://marutomi.cocolog-nifty.com/tameblog/2006/03/post_b6c6.html

I circle the difference at
http://www.comit.jp/misc/fr01.jpg

I doubt there is any difference.
Hmmm....The throat area that you circled looks pretty much the same as both the retail version and the Federer Signature Limited Edition version to me. So if the pic is of an actual racquet that Federer used in tournament play, then I think the throat area is the same on all three. Or am I missing something?
 

comit

New User
>but the lower shoulder area that you circled seems the same on both molds.

Tennis coach who used to be a wilson Japan's staff player says that Federer's actual model's lower shoulder area is wider than Federer signature model.He says Federer request to lessen the flexibility of the throat.

I have not seen the federer's actual racket displayed by Amea Japan.
The picture's racket is the racket used by Federer at Nasdaq Open,2005.

I don't know whether the actual model is different from signature model at that point.
 

TheSnowMan

Semi-Pro
I asked Wilson:
-If they will be selling the Fed Sig Edition of Tour 90
-If shortening the tour 90 pallet would be a good idea
-If the PS 6.0 90 would be availible

Response From Joseph Byers

Roger uses the N6.1 Tour 90 and not the Signature racquet that you speak of. We will not be introducing this racquet into the United States. I would not suggest shortining the pallet on your racquet, it would void the warranty. Tennis warehouse still has some stock on the Pro Staff 6.0 90 and you should be able to purchase through them. Thank you for your intrest and have a nice day.

Wilson mentioned that TW has PS 6.0 90 in stock...
 

SFrazeur

Legend
TheSnowMan said:
I asked Wilson:

Response From Joseph Byers...

Wilson mentioned that TW has PS 6.0 90 in stock...
Somebody does not know their company's products.

TheSnowMan said:
Response From Joseph Byers...

Roger uses the N6.1 Tour 90 and not the Signature racquet that you speak of.
Liars.
 

geesechops

Semi-Pro
I know it's a little hard to see, but if this is actually a racquet used by Fed at the NASDAQ-100, where are his power pads?



 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
geesechops said:
I know it's a little hard to see, but if this is actually a racquet used by Fed at the NASDAQ-100, where are his power pads?
Good point, geesechops!

The power pads don't appear to be there.
 

geesechops

Semi-Pro
I think that the few "true Federer racquets" that are out there might not be as true as some think. Being that Wilson sells a whole heck of a lot of these based on it being Fed's racquet I don't think they would let one get out so easy. This goes for that one from kids day at the US Open that has been weighted and checked out (I'm not buying that it's Fed's). I mean look at all the trouble they went through to make this one look just like Fed's racquet (scuffs on the grip). If they would of remembered the power pads I would have bought it. This just shows you that Wilson is willing to go to great lengths to hide their secret.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
It could also be that Federer gave them the racquet with a broken string so they strung it up for the display and didn't put in the power pads since Federer was not going to use it ever again anyway.
 
geesechops said:
I think that the few "true Federer racquets" that are out there might not be as true as some think. Being that Wilson sells a whole heck of a lot of these based on it being Fed's racquet I don't think they would let one get out so easy. This goes for that one from kids day at the US Open that has been weighted and checked out (I'm not buying that it's Fed's). I mean look at all the trouble they went through to make this one look just like Fed's racquet (scuffs on the grip). If they would of remembered the power pads I would have bought it. This just shows you that Wilson is willing to go to great lengths to hide their secret.

Where are the power pads located, also do you have any pics of how he does his string savers?
 
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