Wilson Triniti Tennis Ball

ChaelAZ

Legend
I got a three pack today from the us open. They feel harder than normal ballls. Will hit with them tomorrow
Just got a couple sleeves from my buddy who was stringing at the USO for Wilson. He gave me them to play test, but wouldn’t mention retail price until after. I assume they are going to be a premium, but really like all the green tech going into them. He showed a picture of the literal truck load of balls used for just the practice courts and to think about how a more environmental ball could help is cool.

Of course, playability will be the lynch pin, but a move in the right direction to me.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend


Had an opportunity to hit the Triniti tennis balls this morning. They felt heavier on the strings with a more dense rubber or material with good pop. Bounce on the court was a bit lower, but not too much. Good spin and felt-feel as well. It was hot so they loosened up after the first 15 minute of play and were consistent over a couple hours of hitting. Will try to hit them again to test longevity.

For me, I still prefer the Pro Penn Marathon balls that have a lighter feel, better bounce, but similar durability. Changing between the two was very challenging while we tested. Threw us off on timing.

Here was some of the hitting for reference. You can hear the difference off the strings.


For reference I am low 4.0 right now. Temp was around 90 degrees and probably 30% humidity. We hit them on and off through a few hours.
 

TagUrIt

Professional
So I popped open the sleeve of Triniti balls today. My buddy and I were warming up with a litte short court cross court rallies. The balls felt great, definitely a little heavier. So we go back to the baseline and immediately we could both see a difference in performance. From the baseline you could hear and feel the difference in the balls. The felt flat and there wasn’t much bounce in them. We ended up swapping them out for some Pro Penns.

Overall it’s not a bad ball, but you’re going to have to put some power behind your shots if you’re using these. The bounce suffers a LOT when you go baseline to baseline. One thing my buddy said was if you’re playing with the Trinitis and then switch to a traditional tennis ball, you’re almost certainly going to hit long. I love the concept of the tube being recycled, we waste far too much on sleeves and balls. However, I don’t see these being as successful as Wilson intends them to be.
 

Hankenstein

Hall of Fame
So I popped open the sleeve of Triniti balls today. My buddy and I were warming up with a litte short court cross court rallies. The balls felt great, definitely a little heavier. So we go back to the baseline and immediately we could both see a difference in performance. From the baseline you could hear and feel the difference in the balls. The felt flat and there wasn’t much bounce in them. We ended up swapping them out for some Pro Penns.

Overall it’s not a bad ball, but you’re going to have to put some power behind your shots if you’re using these. The bounce suffers a LOT when you go baseline to baseline. One thing my buddy said was if you’re playing with the Trinitis and then switch to a traditional tennis ball, you’re almost certainly going to hit long. I love the concept of the tube being recycled, we waste far too much on sleeves and balls. However, I don’t see these being as successful as Wilson intends them to be.
When we tested the ball here on our swedish clay., the balls felt a bit slow first couple of minutes, but then they felt a little bit faster then a regular ball. Hard to explain. Sound is different as well. It felt good though, atleast what we three that tested the balls think. I will test them again in a couple of months time to see how they feel then and if they still have some bounce left.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
.. the balls felt a bit slow first couple of minutes, but then they felt a little bit faster then a regular ball.
They balls definitely "open up" like a wine with a little court time. They felt OVERLY dense the first few hits for us, but after about 15 minutes they still had more weight than Penn's, but did bounce better. By the end of a 2 hour practice they were much better overall. Still not as good of bounce and pop as a stadnard ball for us.
 

Hankenstein

Hall of Fame
They balls definitely "open up" like a wine with a little court time. They felt OVERLY dense the first few hits for us, but after about 15 minutes they still had more weight than Penn's, but did bounce better. By the end of a 2 hour practice they were much better overall. Still not as good of bounce and pop as a stadnard ball for us.
They are in a way like a squash ball that needs to be warmed up. This could be a problem for Wilson, that people think it's not good at all the first minutes and abandon the test. You need at least an hour to get the feel for this ball.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
They are in a way like a squash ball that needs to be warmed up. This could be a problem for Wilson, that people think it's not good at all the first minutes and abandon the test. You need at least an hour to get the feel for this ball.
Totally agree. With the first few hits I was not impressed at all, but glad we gave it time. You nailed it, that folks might give up on it too quick and not get the real feel for how it plays. The first 15 minutes it’s as hard as a coaches ball.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
When we tested the ball here on our swedish clay., the balls felt a bit slow first couple of minutes, but then they felt a little bit faster then a regular ball. Hard to explain. Sound is different as well. It felt good though, atleast what we three that tested the balls think. I will test them again in a couple of months time to see how they feel then and if they still have some bounce left.
agree with your input
I felt it was heavy at first
then it became fast
played 1 full set of dubs, 6/4,, indoors
the ball did not fluff up much
the other players also said it changed for the better as we played
more to come..
 

esgee48

Legend
If the balls have to be hit for 15 minutes before they feel right, how are the pros going to like it when the balls are changed during a match? They won't have the luxury of warmed up tennis balls during a match. You are of the same opinion which makes make think these balls may not pass approval.
 

elsk

New User
If the balls have to be hit for 15 minutes before they feel right, how are the pros going to like it when the balls are changed during a match? They won't have the luxury of warmed up tennis balls during a match. You are of the same opinion which makes make think these balls may not pass approval.
The whole point of this ball is that it is long lasting and does not need to be changed. There is no suggestion that this is a ball for the pro tour but if it was they could concievebly use the same balls for a whole match. This is a ball for rec players to use again and again to save money and the environment from the waste of the balls and packaging. Imagine using the same can of balls for an entire season!
 

Znak

Professional
If there don't come in a pressurised container, how long will their shelf life be — like how will I know if they still have bounce if it's been sitting at the store for a few months? I like the concept of being more eco friendly, hope more companies follow suite.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
day 2 observations (older crowd)
used in 1 court, multiple games, about 3 to 4 sets worth, by many people
ball still feels like a heavy ball for the receiving team
its a fast ball for the serving team
point of note, the serving team had a easier time holding serve with this ball
people also commented on the sound, balloony sound!!
I found this ball to sit up a bit more
ball fluff was still not an issue

on a side note, I droptested this ball on day 1 and 2 against a good Wilson.us.open ball, both days the trinity ball bounced equally high
 

TagUrIt

Professional
don't like it how ?? too hard, too hard to control ? too heavy ?

They didn’t have any bounce from the baseline. My buddy and I used them in some short court drills, as soon as we dropped back to the baseline, we both immediately saw the difference in their performance. We had to hit harder just to get them to reach baseline to baseline. We ended up swapping them out. I will give them another try though, some have said they need to open more.
 

Nogo

New User
Since people mentioned "heavy feeling", did anyone put them on a scale to see how much they actually weigh?
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
what's the verdict ?? is it good ?

Borke them out with @SRUalum and @OnTheLine for some warm up. I think it is still the consensus they are more condensed material so they feel solid/heavier off the strings. They do loosen after about 15 minutes of play, but I would hate to try them in cold weather. And they stil don't bounce as much as a 'normal' ball, so unless you play with them regularly you will setup and the ball will end up short often.

So I would be happy to use them for durability as a practice ball, and I very much appreciate the green aspect of the balls. But probably not going to be my ball of choice. Still love the Penn Marathon or the Wilson USPTA balls.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Borke them out with @SRUalum and @OnTheLine for some warm up. I think it is still the consensus they are more condensed material so they feel solid/heavier off the strings. They do loosen after about 15 minutes of play, but I would hate to try them in cold weather. And they stil don't bounce as much as a 'normal' ball, so unless you play with them regularly you will setup and the ball will end up short often.

So I would be happy to use them for durability as a practice ball, and I very much appreciate the green aspect of the balls. But probably not going to be my ball of choice. Still love the Penn Marathon or the Wilson USPTA balls.
I posted this now in the Ask TW forum:


The balls are now available on TW.

Question: The page says the balls are USTA and ITF approved. Does it mean they are approved for tournament play?
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
I posted this now in the Ask TW forum:


The balls are now available on TW.

Question: The page says the balls are USTA and ITF approved. Does it mean they are approved for tournament play?
From what I heard from Wilson, they are approved.
 

hurworld

Hall of Fame
Relevant to this, according to RS_Tennis on Instagram, there will be a new line of balls called RS Earth Edition that will be used in ATP Tour tournaments in 2020.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
3rd day hitting observations
balls felt good from the start (not hard as rocks anymore);
comfort is better right from the start, but not soft/flat either (they feel like new regular penn ball now),
ball still fast through the court!! (server had better success than receiving team in winning points),,
balls bounce is high still, people had good success getting to drop/short shots
no obvious erratic shots
sound still the same as most worn us-open balls
fluff on ball is not an issue still

when squeezed, ball feel hard
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
4th time hitting these
bit of an issue,
balls felt good, still solid
still feel hard when squeezed
bounce seemed consistent still

we had to cut hitting session with these balls a bit short
the issue is now that the balls have turned dark-GREENish, in color!
I guess the courts I play on are dirty and its now transferred the color to the ball (not a big surprice, but an issue for a long lasting ball)
the fuzz is not the issue, just hard to see in poor light conditions
I was playing at night, so we had to set them aside for now,,
ill see if I can "rinse maa balls!!", somehow, and continue the testing!!
 
I've been playing with the Wilson Triniti balls since early this year and have probably gone through 60 to 80 balls total. In my experience, these balls play a little bit on the slower side. They bounce as high but don't carry as far forward on the bounce as Pro Penn Marathon regular duty balls, and for the hardest of swings don't come off the strings with quite the same velocity. They make a very distinctive sound if you mis-hit with them and that is one of the things I really like about them.

Two sleeves/six balls will last five to six hours of continuous hard drilling/hitting and possibly longer in match play. When the ball becomes unplayable, it isn't because the felt wears out but because the rubber core degrades and the ball loses its consistent bounce.

There is a slight break in period when the balls are new but I don't think that is different from many other pressurized balls like the Pro Penn Marathons. Those are rock hard and the felt is so tight right out of the can that it takes several minutes of hitting before they stop flying like superballs.
 

mmk

Hall of Fame
.....

we had to cut hitting session with these balls a bit short
the issue is now that the balls have turned dark-GREENish, in color!
I guess the courts I play on are dirty and its now transferred the color to the ball (not a big surprice, but an issue for a long lasting ball)
the fuzz is not the issue, just hard to see in poor light conditions
I was playing at night, so we had to set them aside for now,,
ill see if I can "rinse maa balls!!", somehow, and continue the testing!!
Back before optic yellow (or green) balls became common, the white balls we used would turn brown or gray fairly quickly and also be hard to see in low light conditions. I don't remember being able to clean them, after a while they were only good for dogs.
 
I just bought three tubes but haven't had the chance to play with them yet. I did notice some little lumps around the seams on over half of the new balls as if the gatheing of the felt was not quite right. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm wondering if it will affect the consistency of the bounce. The same point is made in this video at 2.06

 

Howard H

Rookie
I just bought three tubes but haven't had the chance to play with them yet. I did notice some little lumps around the seams on over half of the new balls as if the gatheing of the felt was not quite right. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm wondering if it will affect the consistency of the bounce. The same point is made in this video at 2.06

Yes, I also noticed these lumps/wrinkles close to the seam on most of the Triniti balls I have seen so far. And yes for me these lumps affect the bounce of the ball. When you let one of these balls drop out of your hand on the hard court you can easily see it as well. It is not bouncing straight up most of time. The bounce is definitely affected by this quality issue of the Triniti. I have seen such felt wrinkles only with very low quality balls so far.
 
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Znak

Professional
I just bought three tubes but haven't had the chance to play with them yet. I did notice some little lumps around the seams on over half of the new balls as if the gatheing of the felt was not quite right. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm wondering if it will affect the consistency of the bounce. The same point is made in this video at 2.06

He uses balls for 3 months?! Jebus.
 
I have a couple of packs of these coming in tomorrow. Is it safe to assume (after reading everyone’s feedback) that you can get about 2 hits (4-5 sets) out of a can? If so, that’s hella impressive and justifies the price imo.
 

Znak

Professional
I was just looking at my tin of Dunlops the other day — the can (I'm guessing is aluminum) is recyclable and pressurized... yet they're not making great claims of revolutionizing anything. Not taking anything away from Wilson here as I'm all for the environment, but I'm really starting to question Wilson's marketing... everything by them seems so hyped up these days (Clash is a good example)
 
I have a couple of packs of these coming in tomorrow. Is it safe to assume (after reading everyone’s feedback) that you can get about 2 hits (4-5 sets) out of a can? If so, that’s hella impressive and justifies the price imo.
My experience is that you can get around five hours of continuous, hard hitting before the rubber degrades and the balls get overly soft and slow. This is an extra couple of hours more than any regular pressurized ball I've used, the best of which were probably the Pro Penn Marathons.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
My regular hitting ball is the Propenn but occasionally use US open or the new Penn tour. Took a pack of these new trinity balls out today for a first hit. Two hours of hard hitting with the last hour match play. There is no comparison at all to a pressureless ball. The feel is not bad at all although it feels just a tad heavier and seems just a tad slower in the air. So overall pretty good control ball. Playability seemed ok for the full two hours and should be playable for another session. Will see next time i can hit with them.
 
My regular hitting ball is the Propenn but occasionally use US open or the new Penn tour. Took a pack of these new trinity balls out today for a first hit. Two hours of hard hitting with the last hour match play. There is no comparison at all to a pressureless ball. The feel is not bad at all although it feels just a tad heavier and seems just a tad slower in the air. So overall pretty good control ball. Playability seemed ok for the full two hours and should be playable for another session. Will see next time i can hit with them.
Does anyone know of retailers selling the ball yet? I just want to try one can, prefer not to pay for shipping.
 

tennis347

Semi-Pro
I have not hit with the Triniti balls but they seem really overrated. How could such an expensive ball have imperfections with the seams. I normally only get 1 session out of balls for 2 hours of singles. Definitely not worth the money IMO.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
The two "cans" I've played with had no imperfections. Maybe some QC issues right now that hopefully get sorted out.

I think anyone that cares two licks about the environment should be all over these balls. In fact probably all rec tennis players should be using them if for no other reason, to send a message to ball manufacturers to get greener. If these balls start a market trend, other ball makers will follow and the technology will improve.

Supporting better greener balls should be a no brainer.
 
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