I looked around to see if I could buy a can/carton of three Micro X balls to compare with the Triniti but can only find bags of 72 and 144 balls. Anyone know where just a three ball package is available?Your review sounds like the many reviews of the Tretorn Micro X balls.
“They feel like pressured balls.”
So from an environmental point of view, are the balls themselves supposed to be more easy to degrade, or is it just the sleeve vs a plastic "can"?One thing I will say about them is they hold their bounce incredibly well. I'd suggest people pick up a bunch of these just solely as "hopper balls" for serve practice. They may lose their felt over time but they don't go dead like pressurized balls.
I played some more on clay with them and they are reasonable balls and something I will likely look at more seriously down the road as I personally value the environment a bit more than ball quality. If they feel like a tennis ball, spin like a tennis ball, bounce like a tennis ball, I'm not going to fuss.
Right. Agreed. So then the big environmentally better selling point of these balls is really only about the sleeve, and has nothing to do with the balls, which we agree cannot be recycled in a literal sense (re-purposed- yes), and the balls do not break down easily over time.Rubber does not deteriorate naturally. The process to create the stuff from sap makes the stuff very durable, i.e. car tires. The felt is woven plastic fiber, which does not break down very well either. I recycle the ball cans since they are made of plastic and aluminum.
Plastic cans are the worse since the aluminum top makes them difficult to recycle and leads to a lot ending up in landfills.So from an environmental point of view, are the balls themselves supposed to be more easy to degrade, or is it just the sleeve vs a plastic "can"?
I gotta think a tennis ball does not degrade quickly.
They almost felt to me similar to the green dot balls in that they would come off the racket and just slow down. The sound off the strings also sounded way too much like a pickle ball for me, and I feel like I received a lot of funny and unusual bounces. Less importantly but still relevant, the felt had a coarse feel in my hand that I just did not like at all. It also feels like my strings died about half a set into the match, almost like a switch went off.Why is that then?
I agree with these pros and cons.I've played about 6 hours with one set and while they are different balls for sure, it is certainly possible to get used to them.
1) Bounce lasts. Compared my hour old Triniti's to a fresh can of ProPenns and they both bounce the same height from a dead drop.
2) The felt and dwell time allows for great spin
3) Felt doesn't fuzz up
1) Bit heavy
2) Sound funny
3) pricier than many balls
I think the pros outweigh the cons especially when you take into account the better packaging and durability. I'll be switching once I work through my cases of ProPenns and Dunlop Forts.
Few issues with your analogy. First off, changing performance of your strings affects only you, not your opponent. Playing with a different performing ball affects both players equally (in theory, since I guess someone could have a game that works better with a Trinity than a Pro Penn).Along this line, if I restring my racquet with Kevlar, it should last longer and I won't have to string as often. Yes, that is pro environment since I am stringing less. Does my playing with Kevlar help my game or feel better on my arm? No. So that's the trade off.
If these balls are bit heavier than other brands and not arm friendly, I am staying away from them. That’s why I have been using Dunlop Championship XD ! Excellent playability and arm friendly along with an economical price. I much rather play with new balls every time out on the court.I agree with these pros and cons.
The first few cartons of these balls certainly seem to have felt deformities at the edges of the seams. But while unsightly, they have no noticeable effect on play or consistency, and the deformity doesn't get worse even after hours of hard hitting.
They do feel heavy but play similarly to the US Open or Dunlop ATP ball after several minutes when they fluff up. The Triniti balls never fluff up so they stay consistent for a long time, unlike those other top tier balls.
I kind of like the noise they make. Definitely louder than a pressurized ball which is why they are a bit slower. A teaching pro at our club has said the auditory feedback is really valuable when instructing as he can clearly hear how good contact is. But also valuable to me as I can clearly hear if my opponent has hit it clean or not.
They are slow, and sometimes it seems like the ball stays in contact with the ground a hair longer than a pressurized ball. But this is really no different than playing with normal balls on a slower court.
Would they be my first choice for a competitive match? Probably not, but that's self serving as I'm an aggressive player and these balls make me work harder to hit them past an opponent. As a practice ball, they are fantastic. Noticeably less temperature sensitive in terms of how it bounces, the felt wears really well and doesn't fluff up, and requires a firm and committed swing to get the ball moving fast. I swing poorly or make bad contact and the ball sits up for my opponent to be aggressive with. I would not recommend this ball for anyone experiencing arm or elbow issues, but then I also don't recommend Pro Penn Marathons for these players either.
Wow. Really? So I don't care about the environment because I don't like balls that play different and come in a cardboard sleeve? smh Whatever makes you feel better than someone else dude.Again, if you don't care, then it's probably a non-starter. I think these balls are first and foremost for those that care. Then if you do care, does the ball perform well enough for you to adapt to it's different performance. That's the big question.
I don't expect people not concerned for the environment to give these balls a try. I would expect anyone that does care should try them. Whether they stick with them comes down to a personal formula of how much self satisfaction is derived from doing envrionmental good deed vs. playing the ball you like the most.
Well then according to Dartagnam64, you sir, hate the environment. Rot in He LL.If these balls are bit heavier than other brands and not arm friendly, I am staying away from them. That’s why I have been using Dunlop Championship XD ! Excellent playability and arm friendly along with an economical price. I much rather play with new balls every time out on the court.
Yes, the Triniti are not the ball for you. They come off the stringbed more slowly than the Dunlop Championship XD, and that energy loss goes into impact forces in the frame. Those Dunlop are great! I opened two cans, hit with my son for an hour, and pulled them out several days later to play 90 minutes again with them. They were pretty dead at the end of that second session but even after sitting out for several days, still had their bounce. Possibly only the Pro Penn Marathons would last like that. And the Dunlops are $1.94 a can at Walmart.If these balls are bit heavier than other brands and not arm friendly, I am staying away from them. That’s why I have been using Dunlop Championship XD ! Excellent playability and arm friendly along with an economical price. I much rather play with new balls every time out on the court.
Not really what I said. I said if you cared you'd try them. Keeping playing with them is an entire different formula that relates to how much you care about your tennis ball performance vs how much you care about the environment and reducing consumables. If we all really cared a ton about the environment we'd be living stone age style, but no one is going to make those kinds of sacrifices in a modern world.Wow. Really? So I don't care about the environment because I don't like balls that play different and come in a cardboard sleeve? smh Whatever makes you feel better than someone else dude.
I told my indoor club, this very thing ^^I'm thinking they'd be good for a basket of serve practice balls?
Yes. our club is heavily promoting these balls because they make excellent hopper balls for the junior program. All my used ones are going into my service practice basket.I'm thinking they'd be good for a basket of serve practice balls?
what about the color of the balls?I've been coaching with the triniti for almost 2 weeks and the feedback that Im getting is that it feels hard and sounds loud.
Over the week the ball tends to look smaller and the felt gets shorter almost like a bald ball. It's quite bouncy and it seems to dart off the synthetic grass surface. Lot of balls are going over the fence as players are having trouble controlling this ball.
I didn't have any problems with the colour as I was on synthetic grass but maybe on clay or certain hard courts things might be different.what about the color of the balls?
this was my issue, it got dirty after about 5 hits with it
people dont like hitting with green/dark balls, hard to see, what about you???
I have been testing these balls for a Wilson employee since early this year. I posted this picture a few months ago of the Triniti balls that we had put through our playtest. Some of these balls have nine hours of play in them, on indoor hard courts, and have not picked up dirt any more than any other ball.what about the color of the balls?
this was my issue, it got dirty after about 5 hits with it
people dont like hitting with green/dark balls, hard to see, what about you???
That describes my impressions of the balls as well. I've had the opportunity to play them from cooler spring conditions, through the summer, and now into cold conditions and the thing that is best about them is that the bounce is relatively unchanged due to temperature, as is really the response off the strings.I've hit with them three times on a nice outdoor hard court.
My review so far: somewhere in between a normal ball and a tretorn. Different enough in feel (harder and heavier) and sound (weirdly louder?) that I know I don't love it, but not so bad that I would refuse to play with it. The first two days (1 hour of singles drilling) the ball was really bouncy, seemed better on the 3rd day.
I will keep US Open as my preferred ball. If I was a coach or needed a bucket of balls for practice, I could see the Trinity making sense.
A little different take on this. I weighed the Triniti balls and they are within spec and not much different than ordinary pressurized balls. The heavy feeling is due, IMO, to the fact that they do absorb more energy than a pressurized ball. However, in my use, I find them to be very consistent and accurate go where the racquet is directing them. This may not be where I'm trying to hit it, but I get clear feedback if my timing or contact isn't perfect, and in those cases the Triniti react exactly like I would expect them to. This has been a pretty common theme from the vast majority of players I know who have also tested them.I finally had a chance to hit with the Triniti balls. They are the heaviest balls that I ever played with and they feel like hitting a stone. No feel and they are hard to control for hard hitting. I would hate to play with a pusher these Triniti balls. I know that the marketing concept behind them is to protect the environment but they are horrible to play with IMO. This balls will wreck your arm especially if you play with poly strings too.
I agree that you have to swing harder to get the same amount of pace with other types of tennis balls. I just really disliked the feel of the Triniti ball. I have been playing with Dunlop ATP Championships XD for a while which is a good ball IMO. It's much easier to get pace and depth with the Dunlop ball as well as much easier on the arm. I have had some elbow and shoulder issues from the all years of playing. Like you said, playing with these Triniti balls could exacerbate any arm issues which I want to stay clear from.A little different take on this. I weighed the Triniti balls and they are within spec and not much different than ordinary pressurized balls. The heavy feeling is due, IMO, to the fact that they do absorb more energy than a pressurized ball. However, in my use, I find them to be very consistent and accurate go where the racquet is directing them. This may not be where I'm trying to hit it, but I get clear feedback if my timing or contact isn't perfect, and in those cases the Triniti react exactly like I would expect them to. This has been a pretty common theme from the vast majority of players I know who have also tested them.
As far as playing a defensive player with them, or playing with a full bed of poly, I believe all of my testing with them has been against players using a full bed of poly, and I play a full bed of poly myself as well. It requires a faster swing to get the same ball speed as a pressurized ball so it will exacerbate arm/joint issues. Playing defensive players is different but not necessarily harder. It is more difficult to clean hit a ball past them, but the higher bounce can be used to create more issues for them. The slower incoming bounce also gives more time to practice hitting these penetrating shots, so that when moving back to pressurized balls, these attacking aspects seem much easier.
Undoubtedly, the Triniti balls play a little differently, and that may affect some players more than others, both in physical aspects of hitting the ball as well as the psychological aspects of the expectations of hitting a ball. But I honestly don't find the change in play to be much different than if I were to play on a very slow court, or a court with a different court surface like clay, and you could say the same thing about not wanting to use a full bed of poly or play a defensive player on a slow or clay court.
couple things to notiseI recently found some Trinity balls that had been used for some unknown period of time, then stashed away hidden in a corner. The balls look like they have probably three hours of play in them already and had probably been sitting for at least two to three months. I hit with them and they still have the same bounce and feel as newer Triniti balls so the degradation while just sitting after being used is very minimal. I'm now keeping these balls in my bag for those times when I might be hitting for just 30 minutes. It's a great ball for that and no worry about wasting a new can of pressurized balls.
I notice the same thing about the Triniti when they are about to die. They get soft, only in my experience they play pretty well and then pretty quickly degrade to the point where they aren't that playable. Pressurized balls seem to gradually decline. The Triniti seem to lose their rebound over a 15-30 minute period.couple things to notise
try to feel the difference at the start vs the end of the hitting session
if you get to play a set or match, see who wins more, the server or the returned
these are things i notised about this balls
for me, they get softer as you play them more, next day, same thing
while playing, i notised they are fast, so the server had a much easier time holding serve
im with you on this!!, it does not seem "too difficult", to separate the aluminum rim from the plastic can by cutting it!Hated them. If I want to save the planet then use a scissor to cut the metal ring off the plastic can and toss the plastic into the plastic bin. You get to play with a better feeling ball and save the earth.