Wilson Ultra Tour (Monfils)

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That's a fair point. Although the UT has a better feel and is pinpoint, the Angell I think hits a meaner ball than the user perceives. I base that on comments I've received across the net. The TC95 18x20 is still laser precise, but the UT takes it to another level. There's just something confidence inspiring about a frame like the UT that provides adequate power with no surprises. And it's slightly more forgiving, which is all I really wanted compared to the TC95.

And while I'm not one to carry multiple frames, I'm with you in keeping both in my bag: 3 UTs and a pair of TC95 18x20s. Besides, Paul may come through with that TC98 'D' beam yet;)
Completely agree about your assessment of both racquets. Now we just have to cross our fingers about the TC98 and hope that it's what we are all dreaming about (including the hoped-for string patterns - 8 Mains 16x19; or a 16x20).
 

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The WUT is so good when you get the racquet modded right for you. The bolded sentence is what I love about it. Never any surprises. No “wth” balls. You know where the ball is going to land as soon as the ball leaves the strings.
Exactly... I even hit running lobs at will, turning defence into offence.
 

Pneumated1

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Thought I'd provide an update for anyone interested. A few strange twists since I last posted. What started it all was tinkering around with the weight/balance of my UT, which led to a bad outing with it. Turns out I'm not sure what my stock specs are. That's the first problem (scale arriving tomorrow). I started with just a leather grip, but 1.5g at 3/9 pushed the frame into log swing weight territory for me. I think stock, I'm probably a little over specs around 325-328 swing weight, which is where I need to keep it. Long story short, the TC95 18x20 was the old friend I needed to get me through that session. Plus my son said that my ball was in fact nastier with more push than with the UT.

So I dismissed the UT and bought a K7 Lime and am I glad I did! This is clearly the racquet for me. Gives me everything the TC95 18x20 does but ratchets up forgiveness, power, and stability. A little more forgiveness from the TC95 was my objective all along. It is definitely that ... and then some. Plays like a more forgiving Prestige MP with added stability and pop. It is a muted frame, but I love it.

Back to the UT. I took the weight at 3/9 off and left the leather grip(Babolat black for now, probably Wilson or Volkl soon). Won't know static weight, etc. until my scale comes tomorrow. Hit all three yesterday, a full out racquet duel. The K7 Lime is the clear winner for me, subjectively and objectively. One of the most comfortable I've hit. This is a unique frame in that it allows you to hit big from the back of the court. I hit the weightiest ball with the Lime, but it's stability shines on serve and moving into the forecourt. A complete frame that hits a pulsing ball.

But if you've read this far, here's the real twist ... I don't think I missed more than a handful of shots with the UT yesterday. The 'feel' of the racquet is unmatched, and it's definitely more forgiving than the TC95 (my main objective to begin with). Found myself in the original experience of not wanting to put it down. But, my UT-skeptical son kept kept dismissing it, saying I hit a meaner ball with the Lime. He's right, and with little loss of control. I hit the UT with a little more loop and spin, and my ball sits up a little more instead of pushing him off the baseline. It's a pure control frame that allows you to hit any dime on court ... with ample power. It has plenty. Although I haven't competed in a few years, it's what I look for in a competition racquet. Confidence and control win league matches at the intermediate level. No need to blow opponents off the court.

The UT was like hitting with a more feel-oriented, less powerful K7 Lime. The K7 Lime has won me over, but the UT falls second over the TC95 18x20 for me. I'm keeping my pair.
 

Gee

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Thought I'd provide an update for anyone interested. A few strange twists since I last posted. What started it all was tinkering around with the weight/balance of my UT, which led to a bad outing with it. Turns out I'm not sure what my stock specs are. That's the first problem (scale arriving tomorrow). I started with just a leather grip, but 1.5g at 3/9 pushed the frame into log swing weight territory for me. I think stock, I'm probably a little over specs around 325-328 swing weight, which is where I need to keep it. Long story short, the TC95 18x20 was the old friend I needed to get me through that session. Plus my son said that my ball was in fact nastier with more push than with the UT.

So I dismissed the UT and bought a K7 Lime and am I glad I did! This is clearly the racquet for me. Gives me everything the TC95 18x20 does but ratchets up forgiveness, power, and stability. A little more forgiveness from the TC95 was my objective all along. It is definitely that ... and then some. Plays like a more forgiving Prestige MP with added stability and pop. It is a muted frame, but I love it.

Back to the UT. I took the weight at 3/9 off and left the leather grip(Babolat black for now, probably Wilson or Volkl soon). Won't know static weight, etc. until my scale comes tomorrow. Hit all three yesterday, a full out racquet duel. The K7 Lime is the clear winner for me, subjectively and objectively. One of the most comfortable I've hit. This is a unique frame in that it allows you to hit big from the back of the court. I hit the weightiest ball with the Lime, but it's stability shines on serve and moving into the forecourt. A complete frame that hits a pulsing ball.

But if you've read this far, here's the real twist ... I don't think I missed more than a handful of shots with the UT yesterday. The 'feel' of the racquet is unmatched, and it's definitely more forgiving than the TC95 (my main objective to begin with). Found myself in the original experience of not wanting to put it down. But, my UT-skeptical son kept kept dismissing it, saying I hit a meaner ball with the Lime. He's right, and with little loss of control. I hit the UT with a little more loop and spin, and my ball sits up a little more instead of pushing him off the baseline. It's a pure control frame that allows you to hit any dime on court ... with ample power. It has plenty. Although I haven't competed in a few years, it's what I look for in a competition racquet. Confidence and control win league matches at the intermediate level. No need to blow opponents off the court.

The UT was like hitting with a more feel-oriented, less powerful K7 Lime. The K7 Lime has won me over, but the UT falls second over the TC95 18x20 for me. I'm keeping my pair.
Interesting story!
I totally agree with your comparison between the UT and K7 Lime.
Glad for you that you like the K7 Lime best. I have the opposite thing in that I prefer the more direct feel of the UT vs the muted K7 Lime.
I only don't understand why your balls are heavier with TC95 than the UT. Maybe the TC95 has a higher swingweight?
 

mad dog1

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Thought I'd provide an update for anyone interested. A few strange twists since I last posted. What started it all was tinkering around with the weight/balance of my UT, which led to a bad outing with it. Turns out I'm not sure what my stock specs are. That's the first problem (scale arriving tomorrow). I started with just a leather grip, but 1.5g at 3/9 pushed the frame into log swing weight territory for me. I think stock, I'm probably a little over specs around 325-328 swing weight, which is where I need to keep it. Long story short, the TC95 18x20 was the old friend I needed to get me through that session. Plus my son said that my ball was in fact nastier with more push than with the UT.

So I dismissed the UT and bought a K7 Lime and am I glad I did! This is clearly the racquet for me. Gives me everything the TC95 18x20 does but ratchets up forgiveness, power, and stability. A little more forgiveness from the TC95 was my objective all along. It is definitely that ... and then some. Plays like a more forgiving Prestige MP with added stability and pop. It is a muted frame, but I love it.

Back to the UT. I took the weight at 3/9 off and left the leather grip(Babolat black for now, probably Wilson or Volkl soon). Won't know static weight, etc. until my scale comes tomorrow. Hit all three yesterday, a full out racquet duel. The K7 Lime is the clear winner for me, subjectively and objectively. One of the most comfortable I've hit. This is a unique frame in that it allows you to hit big from the back of the court. I hit the weightiest ball with the Lime, but it's stability shines on serve and moving into the forecourt. A complete frame that hits a pulsing ball.

But if you've read this far, here's the real twist ... I don't think I missed more than a handful of shots with the UT yesterday. The 'feel' of the racquet is unmatched, and it's definitely more forgiving than the TC95 (my main objective to begin with). Found myself in the original experience of not wanting to put it down. But, my UT-skeptical son kept kept dismissing it, saying I hit a meaner ball with the Lime. He's right, and with little loss of control. I hit the UT with a little more loop and spin, and my ball sits up a little more instead of pushing him off the baseline. It's a pure control frame that allows you to hit any dime on court ... with ample power. It has plenty. Although I haven't competed in a few years, it's what I look for in a competition racquet. Confidence and control win league matches at the intermediate level. No need to blow opponents off the court.

The UT was like hitting with a more feel-oriented, less powerful K7 Lime. The K7 Lime has won me over, but the UT falls second over the TC95 18x20 for me. I'm keeping my pair.
UT is really an awesome stick if you get the specs right for you.
 

Pneumated1

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Interesting story!
I totally agree with your comparison between the UT and K7 Lime.
Glad for you that you like the K7 Lime best. I have the opposite thing in that I prefer the more direct feel of the UT vs the muted K7 Lime.
I only don't understand why your balls are heavier with TC95 than the UT. Maybe the TC95 has a higher swingweight?
Long story, probably too long8-B

I can appreciate the 'direct feel' aspect of the UT. That combined with it's precision and ample power is why I'm keeping mine. And I don't usually carry multiple frames in my bag. It's too good to get rid of. I sensed that as precise and effective as the UT was yesterday, all-court, and it is a confidence-inspiring racquet, the K7 Lime did just the same in a more dynamic way for me. But I've always favored muted frames over crisp, although I admit the UT is neither. It's almost perfect in the 'feel' dept.

I personally feel like I'm hitting heavier with my UT than the TC95. Because of the pandemic, I'm only hitting with my son, and I can only go by his feedback. He says, and I can see it, that my ball with the UT has more net clearance and spin (wider head?) and kicks up higher, but doesn't push through the court as much. My TC95 18x20 V3s have a swing weight around 323-325 with 1.5g of tungsten tape at 3/9. So no, my unique UTs are higher.
 
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Pneumated1

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UT is really an awesome stick if you get the specs right for you.
It really is. Turns out the only thing I may have accurate knowledge of, specs-wise, concerning my UTs is the higher swing weight. I can feel that. I'm finding that the more weight I add to the handle and the lighter I keep the head, the better it plays for me. I'm going to experiment with it. Because of the swing weight, the 1.5g at 3/9 was too much. Honestly, I think it needs a touch at 5/7, maybe in the upper throat to feel balanced, but I realize not too many people mod there anymore, but I like a frame depolarized and quite head light.
 

mad dog1

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It really is. Turns out the only thing I may have accurate knowledge of, specs-wise, concerning my UTs is the higher swing weight. I can feel that. I'm finding that the more weight I add to the handle and the lighter I keep the head, the better it plays for me. I'm going to experiment with it. Because of the swing weight, the 1.5g at 3/9 was too much. Honestly, I think it needs a touch at 5/7, maybe in the upper throat to feel balanced, but I realize not too many people mod there anymore, but I like a frame depolarized and quite head light.
I have leather grip, plus putty and lead under the trapdoor. Also lead at 5 and 7. Don’t really think about what others do. I mod to the tune of my own lead. ;)
 

Pneumated1

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I have leather grip, plus putty and lead under the trapdoor. Also lead at 5 and 7. Don’t really think about what others do. I mod to the beat of my own drum. ;)
I hear you. Based on feel alone, I'm almost there with just a leather grip and over grip, but who knows what specs I have. I think a heavier leather and just a touch at 3/9 would feel perfect. Wilson makes it challenging. Also, my comparison with the K7 Lime and TC95 isn't quite apples to apples. The Angells have Klip Legend 18/V-Star 18 at 52/50. The UT has Gosen 18/V-Star 18 at 52/50. The gut will naturally be more energetic. Might make a difference; will find that out as well.
 

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A friend of mind has been hitting with my UT the last two outings. Today we had a doubles match. He normally plays with the Strike 16m with HyperG and my UT is with VS. Totally different string but he is enjoying it and might pull the trigger on a couple. I have mine with lead at 10/2 and 12 with a leather grip. He prefers synthetic and if he get's one I'll prob help him add weight. Should he not like it...well maybe i'll pick up another one (or two) from him
 

mad dog1

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A friend of mind has been hitting with my UT the last two outings. Today we had a doubles match. He normally plays with the Strike 16m with HyperG and my UT is with VS. Totally different string but he is enjoying it and might pull the trigger on a couple. I have mine with lead at 10/2 and 12 with a leather grip. He prefers synthetic and if he get's one I'll prob help him add weight. Should he not like it...well maybe i'll pick up another one (or two) from him
In case I haven’t told you, the UT is awesome! ;)
 

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I bought an UT. Feels quite a bit underpowered for me. I have it stock with an overgrip measuring 328g static weight total. TNT2 mains/Lux Adrenaline cross both at 47lbs.
No room to add much weight behind the buttcap door with foam filling out both chambers. Are most of you just adding lead tape to the tip? Curious if it will be enough. Very surprised how underpowered it is for a 328g racquet and I have definitely played with flexier racquets.
 

djNEiGht

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I bought an UT. Feels quite a bit underpowered for me. I have it stock with an overgrip measuring 328g static weight total. TNT2 mains/Lux Adrenaline cross both at 47lbs.
No room to add much weight behind the buttcap door with foam filling out both chambers. Are most of you just adding lead tape to the tip? Curious if it will be enough. Very surprised how underpowered it is for a 328g racquet and I have definitely played with flexier racquets.
I usually add a leather grip so that helps put some weight in the handle. If you want to keep grip synthetic, Try some lead at the top of the handle.

I was happy with it stock but to get added plow I experimented w lead in a few different places. I would say be patient with it and try a few different lead configurations

Happy hitting
 

Pneumated1

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I bought an UT. Feels quite a bit underpowered for me. I have it stock with an overgrip measuring 328g static weight total. TNT2 mains/Lux Adrenaline cross both at 47lbs.
No room to add much weight behind the buttcap door with foam filling out both chambers. Are most of you just adding lead tape to the tip? Curious if it will be enough. Very surprised how underpowered it is for a 328g racquet and I have definitely played with flexier racquets.
This seems to be the familiar UT chorus. I hit a demo a few years ago, and that thing was so anemic it wouldn't break an egg. It was back in the demo box in five minutes. The frames I bought recently were totally different, much higher swing weight and substantial feeling. A leather gets it close to my preferences. Sounds like yours could use a few grams in the hoop with some counter weight. The frame comes alive with mods. Just be patient.
 
I bought an UT. Feels quite a bit underpowered for me. I have it stock with an overgrip measuring 328g static weight total. TNT2 mains/Lux Adrenaline cross both at 47lbs.
No room to add much weight behind the buttcap door with foam filling out both chambers. Are most of you just adding lead tape to the tip? Curious if it will be enough. Very surprised how underpowered it is for a 328g racquet and I have definitely played with flexier racquets.
Super easy to pull out however much foam you need to create more space. Or just push it back in and compress it with something.
 
The QC on this racquet has truly been spotty, but the beauty of it (once you get specs you know) is that you can achieve a hefty swingweight while keeping a headlight balance and overall weight under 345-350 grams. When you set it up like that you can really feel the polarization make the throat flex. Just my experience though.
 
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