Wilson will release RF85

sixone90

Professional
Same old PS85 mold but with a blacked out version of the original paintjob. Instead of red and yellow lines, it is grey and silver lines with pictures of Federer's face above the handle where his signature is on the RF97. I have photos but won't post them for obvious reasons.
 

Robert F

Semi-Pro
This seems a little odd to label it an RF.
Did he ever play with an 85? Obviously he kicked butt with the 90".

Seems the opposite from the typical marketing. Label it the pro's racquet but it specs are much more friendly for the rec player. Now there is a racquet that is more control oriented than even the guy it was signed by won't use?

Regardless would be interesting to see how it plays.
 

ONgame

Semi-Pro
This seems a little odd to label it an RF.
Did he ever play with an 85? Obviously he kicked butt with the 90".

Seems the opposite from the typical marketing. Label it the pro's racquet but it specs are much more friendly for the rec player. Now there is a racquet that is more control oriented than even the guy it was signed by won't use?

Regardless would be interesting to see how it plays.
He did use an 85.
 

Matthew Lee

Professional
I know a friend who uses a Pro Staff 85 for high school tennis. In a game where all the "good players" use Babolats and Head Radicals, Speeds, Extremes, and some Wilson Blades, he uses a facking Pro Staff 85. He told me he already bought 2 of these rackets...
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Tempting...

Love the frame for grooving strokes and giving training. String it up with full gut and the thing is a dream.
 
That is very funny PrinceMorton. For my collection, I wouldn't mind to buy one of the RF85.
Ah, like to do = prefer, like doing = enjoy

Infinitive form carries a future idea, gerund a concreteness, something of the past.
Try to do = attempt
Try doing = experiment
Mean to do = intend
Means doing = involves, necessitates

Stop to do something else, stop doing what you were doing. Regret to say something in advance of saying it, regret saying something you have said.

Start and begin fall in the middle, so started raining and started to rain are fairly equivalent.

So I would expect: I would not mind something, would not mind doing something

There is some logic there.

I was watching Kingsman and got very very bored..... and now I am trying to remember grammar from a previous life.
 

ByakuFubuki

Semi-Pro
I'm pretty sure Wilson will follow this up with a Pro Staff RF90, then a Six.One RF90.

Milk Roger for all he's worth, Wilson!
That would be a dream. Except it will probably cost too much for me to even imagine to be able to afford it, unless Tennis Warehouse takes them and keeps them on store for quite some years as they did with the ProStaff 85 re-issue.

But in my opinion it's not so likely to happen, with all the hate Wilson has for that stick.
 

every7

Hall of Fame
I have to admire the commitment to making a heritage line.

With that said, the cosmetics, to me, are a little tone-def. The piping/pinstriping disregards the provenance of the original design inspiration in favour of trying to update the look in more muted tones like the RF frames. It's a bit wishy-washy with no unique identity imo. A new PS 85 release should really distinguish itself and this cosmetic doesn't.
 

every7

Hall of Fame
Sorry, but you'd have to be an idiot to want to play with this thing instead of a modern racket, at least if you care about winning matches. It's fun to own a classic Porsche but I wouldn't want to race against a new GT3 in it.
It really depends on your game. There are a great deal of people swinging pancake 100sqi frames like a rusty gate when they would be much better off using an 85 or 90. I think you are right in terms of cars, but with racquets bigger and newer is not always better.
 

John

Rookie
Two thumbs up for a new 85 and pray for a new 90 to be practical.

But put all my finger and toe down for having a RF and his image on this 85. If it's a 90 that would be fine.

If Wilson has to print a logo, it got to be old Sampras. They should use the k88 art work instead too.

But it's brain dead to re-issue a 85, least a 90 should come first. Of course I would change my mind if Wilson got a new bumperless 85 out with exactly match with some nice St V ps.
 

SteveI

Legend
It really depends on your game. There are a great deal of people swinging pancake 100sqi frames like a rusty gate when they would be much better off using an 85 or 90. I think you are right in terms of cars, but with racquets bigger and newer is not always better.
I am confused by this statement... If players are swinging a pancake 100 sq inch frame like a rusty gate, what would they swing a 85 or 90 like? If they do not have the hand speed / ability to get a 100 going?? What makes you think they can get a 85 going fast enough to play decent tennis. I agree that there are folks that can play tennis great with a smaller headed frame, I guess I am missing the point of this statement. Most 85, 90 are 12 plus oz frames with high SW.. whereas most 100s are lighter with lower SW.. in general. Easier to get moving.. in general.. No??
 

every7

Hall of Fame
I am confused by this statement... If players are swinging a pancake 100 sq inch frame like a rusty gate, what would they swing a 85 or 90 like? If they do not have the hand speed / ability to get a 100 going?? What makes you think they can get a 85 going fast enough to play decent tennis. I agree that there are folks that can play tennis great with a smaller headed frame, I guess I am missing the point of this statement. Most 85, 90 are 12 plus oz frames with high SW.. whereas most 100s are lighter with lower SW.. in general. Easier to get moving.. in general.. No??
It's not all about racquet head speed. The smaller size and precision of a more focused frame can encourage people to develop what they are already good at. Particularly those who have been playing a long time and have compact, uncomplicated swings but maybe never developed a heavy topspin approach. They can benefit greatly by retreating to a more control-orientated frame with a lower launch angle. On a semi-related note, it may be entirely mental and an optics thing, but there is a lot to be said for a smaller head size feeling "quicker" through the air imo, too (RE: "rusty-gate" aside from me).
 

BorgCash

Legend
This seems a little odd to label it an RF.
Did he ever play with an 85? Obviously he kicked butt with the 90".

Seems the opposite from the typical marketing. Label it the pro's racquet but it specs are much more friendly for the rec player. Now there is a racquet that is more control oriented than even the guy it was signed by won't use?

Regardless would be interesting to see how it plays.
This seems a little odd to label it an RF.
Did he ever play with an 85? Obviously he kicked butt with the 90".

Seems the opposite from the typical marketing. Label it the pro's racquet but it specs are much more friendly for the rec player. Now there is a racquet that is more control oriented than even the guy it was signed by won't use?

Regardless would be interesting to see how it plays.
He started to play as a pro with PS 85. And beat Sampras with it who also used this racquet as well.
 
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Le Master

Professional
Same old PS85 mold but with a blacked out version of the original paintjob. Instead of red and yellow lines, it is grey and silver lines with pictures of Federer's face above the handle where his signature is on the RF97. I have photos but won't post them for obvious reasons.
already floating around on this site
These don't look like the same specs as the PS85.
 

SteveI

Legend
It's not all about racquet head speed. The smaller size and precision of a more focused frame can encourage people to develop what they are already good at. Particularly those who have been playing a long time and have compact, uncomplicated swings but maybe never developed a heavy topspin approach. They can benefit greatly by retreating to a more control-orientated frame with a lower launch angle. On a semi-related note, it may be entirely mental and an optics thing, but there is a lot to be said for a smaller head size feeling "quicker" through the air imo, too (RE: "rusty-gate" aside from me).
Interesting take.... Just considering this concept the other day. Interesting :)
 

John

Rookie
I am confused by this statement... If players are swinging a pancake 100 sq inch frame like a rusty gate, what would they swing a 85 or 90 like? If they do not have the hand speed / ability to get a 100 going?? What makes you think they can get a 85 going fast enough to play decent tennis. I agree that there are folks that can play tennis great with a smaller headed frame, I guess I am missing the point of this statement. Most 85, 90 are 12 plus oz frames with high SW.. whereas most 100s are lighter with lower SW.. in general. Easier to get moving.. in general.. No??
I think you need to go back to high school physics... if everything stays same, smaller racquet will swing faster.
You also need a history lesson... if our grandma can swing a much smaller and heavier racquets years ago, why can't we? It's not a mission impossible and people had been accustomed to that sw and size.

As a matter of fact, we become weaker every generation.
 

SteveI

Legend
I think you need to go back to high school physics... if everything stays same, smaller racquet will swing faster.
You also need a history lesson... if our grandma can swing a much smaller and heavier racquets years ago, why can't we? It's not a mission impossible and people had been accustomed to that sw and size.

As a matter of fact, we become weaker every generation.
Nice work...but everything is not the same... the newer frames (100 head size) are lighter (static weight) and easier to swing (swing weight). Yes basic physics.. but if you cant read.. and it appears you cant.. Yikes.. you have like 96 posts and I have 5,683. Nice job newbie.. wow. Read a bit better before you post..and attack
 

John

Rookie
Nice work...but everything is not the same... the newer frames (100 head size) are lighter (static weight) and easier to swing (swing weight). Yes basic physics.. but if you cant read.. and it appears you cant.. Yikes.. you have like 96 posts and I have 5,683. Nice job newbie.. wow. Read a bit better before you post..and attack
I was teasing you...hint..." grandma"
 

John

Rookie
Nice work...but everything is not the same... the newer frames (100 head size) are lighter (static weight) and easier to swing (swing weight). Yes basic physics.. but if you cant read.. and it appears you cant.. Yikes.. you have like 96 posts and I have 5,683. Nice job newbie.. wow. Read a bit better before you post..and attack
Another thing I want to point out is attitude. Your thought is like water falls from top down. I want to point out some others wants to swim upward and be stronger and better.
 
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