Wilson will release RF85

anirut

Legend
Any more thoughts around how the RF85 compares to your other Pro Staffs?
OK, I've added lead to the top of the SV to match that of the RF headguard. Now the SV weights 350.6 grams and 8.5 pts HL. The RF weights 351.0 grams and 9.5 pts HL. These numbers are so close that, for simplicity's sake, I wish to consider them 'just the same' for now.

I haven't used them against my usual hitting partner, yet, so it's difficult to conclude.

However, I can still confirm that the RF is much more comfy. Stiffness is hard to tell until I get to play it really hard. (Been playing 'social tennis' for sometime). The performance is just the same, need not adjust my strokes.
 

Bane

New User
Why is it so hard for everyone to understand the concept behind this Racquet? It's not "Let's release a Pro Staff 85 out of the blue and promote it through whom we think most people regard as the best model to endorse this Racquet": it's "Let's release a limited edition of Federer's first Tour Racquet to associate with what's probably going to be his last (obviously no love for the frame in the middle, as usual)". It's something that starts from Federer, not from the 85, so it's obvious no one else will be the poster boy. Besides, not only Federer is (far) more marketable than Sampras, but can Wilson even put the latter's face on one of their products without specifically paying him for it? Because not only Sampras is not sponsored by Wilson, he's using a Babolat on the Champions Tour, unless he switched in the last months. It would seem weird to me they could do it, but if you played at ATP level you probably can explain me better.

Also, it's far from a confidence thing in my humble opinion. I highly doubt Wilson released this frame with the purpose of selling it to new potential customers who may want to use it in League Level. It seems specifically directed to two branches of customers: die-hard Pro Staff 85 fans who may think of it as their last chance to get their hands on one of these frames in good conditions and collectors who won't even ever take it out for a spin (as I said, the concept is to have Federer's first Tour Racquet and his last one side by side; besides, it's a Limited Edition item). If anything, Wilson would like people who are used to >97 squared inches Racquets and who are too impatient to adapt to different frames to try it out so that they blame the headsize for their poor performance as usual, thus enforcing the idea that any Racquet which headsize is smaller than 97 squared inches is either unsuited to today's game or flat-out unplayable (because for most people what's hard to play with for them is totally impossible to win with for anyone) which they're relentlessly promoting ever since Federer gave them the chance by switching to the 97.
Yep, i clearly understand the concept behind this racquet.....Like always, its all about the dollar.
 

Kreklo

New User
OK, I've added lead to the top of the SV to match that of the RF headguard. Now the SV weights 350.6 grams and 8.5 pts HL. The RF weights 351.0 grams and 9.5 pts HL. These numbers are so close that, for simplicity's sake, I wish to consider them 'just the same' for now.

I haven't used them against my usual hitting partner, yet, so it's difficult to conclude.

However, I can still confirm that the RF is much more comfy. Stiffness is hard to tell until I get to play it really hard. (Been playing 'social tennis' for sometime). The performance is just the same, need not adjust my strokes.
Thanks for the update. Really curious if they are noticeably stiffer than the reissue when you are hitting harder.
 

freeme

New User
I've liked all of your designs so far Peter, great job. But I will say after receiving the Six.One 95 18x20 reissue last week that I am starting to find the recent Wilson paintjobs to be a little too "neat" and "clean" with no "pizzazz". Generally speaking, I like clean and neat - my favorite paint jobs ever are the PS Tour 90 (yellow inner rim) and the N90 (red white and black with a tiny bit of yellow accents). Both had clean lines, but they also had some excitement with the yellow inner rim on the PST90 and yellow accents on the N90. The red on the N90 was also a deep, bright red (the Wilson logo red). The Six.One 95 reissue, on the other hand, had bands at 3 and 9 that were pinkish red (more red than pink, but definitely not a true red) and it just didn't look "bold". Frankly, it looked like a ladies racquet. I was disappointed by the red, especially since the red at 3 and 9 didn't even match the red of the buttcap. Not sure if this colorway was intentional or not. Anyway, I still have way more compliments than criticisms for the recent RF97/PS97 and other similar paint jobs /designs, but I do hope that the next generation of racquet models have slightly bolder styling bc some of the recent ones are starting to get a little too blase.

Totally agree. That's why I bought a Prince 100TX Pengshuai, which has a red inner rim, something Wilson should have done. I like T90 so much.
 
At age 17 I played a couple of years with wooden racket.
I switched to chip grafit Wilsons later.
When I fineshed university, I can aford to buy Prostuff 6.0 95.
It where mid 90x. And I was inspired by game of Courier, Edberg and Sampras.
I was blown away by performance of this racket.
But in begining of 2000x I wanted to try a new technology. I bought Wilson Hammer Hipercarbone 4.3. My firs reaction to this racket was Wow. Espetialy I felt my defencive game improved. But after a year of weekly playing I sterted feel that my technique degrade. I feel I can play accuratly near lines, I can't play offence game.
I bought a new PS95. I started enjoy my game again. Then I desided to try PS85 the racket used by my favorite players. The truth I afraed I can't play with sach small head size. But in my first game with this racket I was shocked haw stable and powerful it is! I made 3 times less mistakes compared to PS95!
Since this time it is my favorite racket. Every time when I do mistake with this racket I know what I exactly did wrong. It has such a grat feedback.
I tried Head Liquidmetal Radical midplus. This racket is joke. It is not accurate racket at all even for club player like me. I also have PS6.1 K Factor. It is not my cup of tea too. This racket is spin oriented but unpredictble and too headlite for my double handed backhand. It can spin and direct ball but it doesn't have feel and feedback like PS85.
Now I want to try RF85. Is this racket better compare my Chinese PS85 made in 2004?
 
I received RF85 from TW.
I played with it yesterday and compared it to PS85 from mid 2000x.
Both rackets have the same overgrip and strings are Luxilon Timo 17. RF85 is stringed with 57 lb tension. PS85 strings tension is a little bit lousier.
RF85 is a different racket compared to mid 2000x PS85.
RF85 is noticeable staffer. The sound is less ringing. The grip is not natural leather. I like old PS85 grip more!
It looks like RF85 is a little more powerful but a like a softer feel of PS85.
PS85 has a bigger sweet spot. Maybe it is because a small difference is strings tension?
Despite RF85 is 2 gram lighter and a weight balance is a same RF85 feels heavier in my hand.
 

morten

Hall of Fame
Ok. Try and measure swingweight. Wilson qc is not exactly top notch. My old ones and my friends new rf85 with same swingweight played very similar.
 
They are similar but not the same.
For example, I have K Factor 90. And it is a very different beast.
I think, that string tension 57 lb is too much for me. 55-56 should work better for my strokes. When after number of playing hours, strings will be more loose, I can do more fair comparison.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I received RF85 from TW.
I played with it yesterday and compared it to PS85 from mid 2000x.
Both rackets have the same overgrip and strings are Luxilon Timo 17. RF85 is stringed with 57 lb tension. PS85 strings tension is a little bit lousier.
RF85 is a different racket compared to mid 2000x PS85.
RF85 is noticeable staffer. The sound is less ringing. The grip is not natural leather. I like old PS85 grip more!
It looks like RF85 is a little more powerful but a like a softer feel of PS85.
PS85 has a bigger sweet spot. Maybe it is because a small difference is strings tension?
Despite RF85 is 2 gram lighter and a weight balance is a same RF85 feels heavier in my hand.
Your old PS85 is going to lose a lot of its stif feeling if it has been strung a lot and sitting around. String the 85 a few times or drop the tension and see how it goes. Also possibility that you got a higher RA RF85 compared to your older one. I would expect +/- 3 RA on wilsons racquets given their terrible QC. Without RDC its not a fair comparison i think :)
 
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