Wimbledon 2014 R128: Martin Klizan vs Rafael Nadal [2]

Who wins?


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For a 14 slam champ, it's crazy how Nadal feels less confident sometimes. He would benefit from the swagger that Federer or Djokovic have. It almost takes Nadal time to believe in himself and remind himself that he's the World #1.



May be he reads too much of Chico. "Choker is the No. 1"
 
Federer did it when he was getting his pants pulled down. Nadal did it at a set all BIG difference...

Come on man, are you really trying to say that Fed is worse than Nadal in gamesmanship? Nadal is by far the worst in the top10 for on court tactics in gamesmanship.
 
For a 14 slam champ, it's crazy how Nadal feels less confident sometimes. He would benefit from the swagger that Federer or Djokovic have. It almost takes Nadal time to believe in himself and remind himself that he's the World #1.

Agreed but its kind of why people like him so much too - his vunerability is there for all too see.
 
Federer did it when he was getting his pants pulled down. Nadal did it at a set all BIG difference...

I assume you are talking about toilet breaks? Like the one Nadal took against Fed on the freaking last game of the match back at IW? Nadal is the master of dirty tactics
 
Not almost, it does, and it's always thrilling to visibly see him improving over the course of a match/tournament until he hits that deadly zone in the semis :)

Buddy, the way he is playing, do you think he'll get to the Semis? I mean it's hard for me to understand how he plays here and looks SO ORDINARY.

It's CRAZY how one wins a slam and then plays like he has no confidence. I mean, I understand surface plays a role. But at the heart its STILL tennis. And if you have the shots and confidence (as Nadal does) then wins should come easy --- especially against nobody's like Klizan.

A little while ago, Nadal was on the top of the world and we're comparing him to Sampras. But now he just looks like another player struggling to get through against Journeymen in the opening rounds of a slam.

How is this possible?
 
And that is the last thing you want, I'm sure.

That is pretty cynical view on things.

I have never wished that Federer's opponent injures himself even in some of his worst losses. That is just sickening.

Besides, there is zero glory in winning over someone who has to retire on the spot with injury.
 
Federer did it when he was getting his pants pulled down. Nadal did it at a set all BIG difference...

He did it between sets as per the rule without disrupting the match and was back before the set break was over (unlike Nadal who has done it between games, before opponent served for the match etc). Try harder and make some sense next time.
 
Klizan has ran out of steam. It's OK trying your heart out and being inspired but his game is not suited to the grass at all and he's very clumsy around the court, albeit very athletic.

As for Nadal, there is much to be positive about in terms of how he's playing compared to last year. He's certainly stronger here.
 
I missed the match till now. How has Nadal played?

He's in trouble with the movement on fresh grass, as always. Klizan was forcing errors on Nadal with short slices to Nadal BH and hard flat strokes to Nadal's FH, forcing Nadal to move to uncomfortable positions. Then after set1, Klizan stopped hitting that short slice which troubles Nadal, and we all know that Klizan will lose if he just keeps baseline bashing.

Why get rid of a winning strategy? :confused:
 
He was doing that earlier as well, quite a bit. But now it seems he has less focus. Regardless, they're not going in as much.

Kind of. He was being smart earlier even when he was taking cuts. Now he's just ripping the first thing that comes onto his FH side and missing. Probably because he's behind as you mentioned.
 
Come on man, are you really trying to say that Fed is worse than Nadal in gamesmanship? Nadal is by far the worst in the top10 for on court tactics in gamesmanship.

If Nadal was to commit murder his fans would still support him. Its a lost cause.
 
Come on man, are you really trying to say that Fed is worse than Nadal in gamesmanship? Nadal is by far the worst in the top10 for on court tactics in gamesmanship.

No just pointing out the difference between the timing of the bathroom breaks in each situation. In other words, surely you can't compare Nadal's break today to that of Federer's which he even admitted was a tactic to take time for the sun to go down so there wasn't a shadow across half the court.
 
Fedt$rd. Klizan is falling to pieces atm. Didn't expect this. :(
Though, I didn't expect a set for him before this match started. :neutral:

Yes, you told me to wait as the shameless Klizantard of unrealism that you are. :twisted:

And fell flat on your arse, much like Klizan.


Better luck next time, fellow antagonist (mischievous grin).
 
Buddy, the way he is playing, do you think he'll get to the Semis? I mean it's hard for me to understand how he plays here and looks SO ORDINARY.

It's CRAZY how one wins a slam and then plays like he has no confidence. I mean, I understand surface plays a role but at the heart its STILL tennis if you have the shots and confidence then wins should come easy especially against nobody's like klizan.

A little while ago, Nadal was on the top of the world. Now he just looks like another player struggling to get through against Journeymen.

How is this possible?

Nadal playing well literally revolves around continuous match play and striking the ball. It's why he practices so hard. He really hasn't had any matches to get him into the groove on grass. This is the perfect match for him.
 
No just pointing out the difference between the timing of the bathroom breaks in each situation. In other words, surely you can't compare Nadal's break today to that of Federer's which he even admitted was a tactic to take time for the sun to go down so there wasn't a shadow across half the court.
My bad! Fair enough. Can't wait to see them play against one another. Bring it on. Hopefully the match happens and Fed wins:)
 
Edgar v Rosol in round two. I expect a complete destruction. Maybe even a shoulder bump.
 
Oh no! So you're telling me that if I don't have ESPN3, I'm going to lose this live match in 4 minutes?

Why doesn't tennis channel carry these early round matches????
 
No just pointing out the difference between the timing of the bathroom breaks in each situation. In other words, surely you can't compare Nadal's break today to that of Federer's which he even admitted was a tactic to take time for the sun to go down so there wasn't a shadow across half the court.

Learn the rules before repeating your senseless argument, genius. It was no more of a gamesmanship by Fed than changing his shirt during a set break and joking about using the new shirt to distract his opponent.
 
It took a while but he is looking really solid and timing the ball well.
He needs a win under his belt to get his confidence going. As long as they don't close the roof during the Rosol match, I think he'll be fine. Then his draw will be ok until Fed (Gasquet already went to 5 today and Karlo lost). I believe this year! I really do.
 
At least Klizan's private life will now not go under scrutiny.
 
Djoko2011: Yeah, I love Rafa but that's disturbing. Murder, people? Get your priorities right :-? That kind of fanaticism is how dictators get to power.
 
Learn the rules before repeating your senseless argument, genius. It was no more of a gamesmanship by Fed than changing his shirt during a set break and joking about using the new shirt to distract his opponent.

Yep whatever you say princess.

Btw LOL at your sig! :lol:
 
Of course not but I do love him and I haven't felt this way about a sports star since Graf.

I am 31 and I ordered in 2 nadal posters for my bedroom last night - I feel like a child watching him I am so happy!

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I feel sorry for a lot of Nadal fans, truly. All of us have our favourite player we get behind but a certain portion of Nadal fans love their man more than anyone else loves theirs. It seems like an unhealhy, queer obsession with some of them.

I feel sorry.
 
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