Wimbledon 2014 R32: Mikhail Kukushkin vs Rafael Nadal [2]

Who wins?


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aldeayeah

Legend
So. On paper this is a no-brainer; Kukushkin had won a single match on grass in his whole career before this tournament, and he's spent long stretches of the last few years playing challengers (although, to his credit, he's won quite a few of them); his career high ranking being around #50 (which he's reached several times, curiously).

His best results have come indoors, where he scored his single tournament win and top 10 win against Youzhny back in Moscow 2009. He made the final again last year, falling to Gasquet in 3 sets.

He also made a rather impressive run in AO 2012, upsetting GGL, Troicki and Monfils before retiring against Murray.

But here he is, in third round, after two victories in straight sets against Sela (who's not having his best year) and lucky loser Dancevic (who ousted Karlovic), in two matches I'm not sure anyone in this boards has seen (were they even televised?). According to the statistics, he returned well, saved lots of BPs, made few errors and didn't play many net points.

On the other side, we have Nadal who has shown a few glimpses of his best grass game in the Rosol match and who's probably starting to feel confident.

Anything but Nadal in 3 would be a surprise; but it's still the first week of Wimbledon, so who knows. If they schedule this in Centre Court and the conditions are right (closed roof, etc), things could get interesting.

Certainly, Kukushkin has nothing to lose; I expect him to play freely, with abandon, trying to reenact the aggressive game play that has proven effective against Nadal.

H2H Nadal 2-0 Kukushkin
2012 Monte Carlo R16 Nadal d. Kukushkin 6-1 6-1
2010 Bangkok QF Nadal d. Kukushkin 6-2 6-3
 
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SoBad

G.O.A.T.
Kukushkin is a fast-court player, nearly took out the venerable Richard Gasquet in the Moscow final last fall! Hard to believe the No. 1 player has to deal with this in the 3rd round!!
 

FreeBird

Legend
Kukushkin is a fast-court player, nearly took out the venerable Richard Gasquet in the Moscow final last fall! Hard to believe the No. 1 player has to deal with this in the 3rd round!!

Pass me the joint bro. :twisted:
 

Mayonnaise

Banned
Kukushkin is a fast-court player, nearly took out the venerable Richard Gasquet in the Moscow final last fall! Hard to believe the No. 1 player has to deal with this in the 3rd round!!
Yes indeed! Nadal should get his excuse ready, just in case! :shock:
 

irishnadalfan1983

Hall of Fame
I'd like to see Nadal have a straight sets win - I think it is good he has had two tought matches so far and getting in more game time on grass but I think it is time for an easy, straight sets win hopefully :)
 

Mayonnaise

Banned
Nadal has not violated a time rule
Time violations:

1. Rafael Nadal: 30
2. Novak Djokovic: 10
3. David Ferrer: 2
4. Andy Murray: 6
5. Juan Martin del Potro: 11
6. Roger Federer: 0
7. Tomas Berdych: 9
8. Stanislas Wawrinka: 0
9. Richard Gasquet: 8
10. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga: 1
11. Milos Raonic: 2
12. Tommy Haas: 2
13. Nicolas Almagro: 1
14. John Isner: 14
15. Mikhail Youzhny: 0
16. Fabio Fognini: 11
17. Kei Nishikori: 5
18. Tommy Robredo: 5
19. Gilles Simon: 2
20. Kevin Anderson: 6
21. Jerzy Janowicz: 1
22. Philipp Kohlschreiber: 0
23. Grigor Dimitrov: 3
24. Ernests Gulbis: 9
25. Andreas Seppi: 3
26. Benoit Paire: 0
27. Jurgen Melzer: 2
28. Feliciano Lopez: 6
29. Dmitry Tursunov: 2
30. Fernando Verdasco: 2

:)
 

Ralph

Hall of Fame
*Kukushkin is a fast-court player, nearly took out the venerable Richard Gasquet in the Moscow final last fall! Hard to believe the No. 1 player has to deal with this in the 3rd round!!
**Well this has gone downhill fast.
I laughed very loudly at this :)

And here folks, we have a fine example of a moronic Nadal fan* (unfortunately, there are many to choose from) being cut down by a level headed one**.

Thank heavens for the likes of you aldeayeah.
 

Mayonnaise

Banned
I am not sure what that wall of text is supposed to represent
I can see how big numbers like 30 would confuse you, but that is the number of time violations for the top 30 players of 2013. And as you can see, Nadal leads with 30 time violations ;)
 

aldeayeah

Legend
Time violations:

1. Rafael Nadal: 30
2. Novak Djokovic: 10
3. David Ferrer: 2
4. Andy Murray: 6
5. Juan Martin del Potro: 11
6. Roger Federer: 0
7. Tomas Berdych: 9
8. Stanislas Wawrinka: 0
9. Richard Gasquet: 8
10. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga: 1
11. Milos Raonic: 2
12. Tommy Haas: 2
13. Nicolas Almagro: 1
14. John Isner: 14
15. Mikhail Youzhny: 0
16. Fabio Fognini: 11
17. Kei Nishikori: 5
18. Tommy Robredo: 5
19. Gilles Simon: 2
20. Kevin Anderson: 6
21. Jerzy Janowicz: 1
22. Philipp Kohlschreiber: 0
23. Grigor Dimitrov: 3
24. Ernests Gulbis: 9
25. Andreas Seppi: 3
26. Benoit Paire: 0
27. Jurgen Melzer: 2
28. Feliciano Lopez: 6
29. Dmitry Tursunov: 2
30. Fernando Verdasco: 2

:)
This Rafus Nadalus Cunctator, such a gladiator.
 

Tomxc

Professional
Time violations:

1. Rafael Nadal: 30
2. Novak Djokovic: 10
3. David Ferrer: 2
4. Andy Murray: 6
5. Juan Martin del Potro: 11
6. Roger Federer: 0
7. Tomas Berdych: 9
8. Stanislas Wawrinka: 0
9. Richard Gasquet: 8
10. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga: 1
11. Milos Raonic: 2
12. Tommy Haas: 2
13. Nicolas Almagro: 1
14. John Isner: 14
15. Mikhail Youzhny: 0
16. Fabio Fognini: 11
17. Kei Nishikori: 5
18. Tommy Robredo: 5
19. Gilles Simon: 2
20. Kevin Anderson: 6
21. Jerzy Janowicz: 1
22. Philipp Kohlschreiber: 0
23. Grigor Dimitrov: 3
24. Ernests Gulbis: 9
25. Andreas Seppi: 3
26. Benoit Paire: 0
27. Jurgen Melzer: 2
28. Feliciano Lopez: 6
29. Dmitry Tursunov: 2
30. Fernando Verdasco: 2

:)
Is there a page of complete data on every player?
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
It is a no brainer on paper and otherwise. Rafa is warmed up and well settled into the tournament now. He found his marks nicely during the Rosol match. He will stomp on Kukush as he should.
 

Mustard

Talk Tennis Guru
I think Nadal will win, and his haters will moan and whinge to the extremes. No change there.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal will be out to send a message in this one, and the grass will be just chewed up enough for him to do so. My prediction is Nadal in 3 with a bakery product somewhere.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Time violations:

1. Rafael Nadal: 30
2. Novak Djokovic: 10
3. David Ferrer: 2
4. Andy Murray: 6
5. Juan Martin del Potro: 11
6. Roger Federer: 0
7. Tomas Berdych: 9
8. Stanislas Wawrinka: 0
9. Richard Gasquet: 8
10. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga: 1
11. Milos Raonic: 2
12. Tommy Haas: 2
13. Nicolas Almagro: 1
14. John Isner: 14
15. Mikhail Youzhny: 0
16. Fabio Fognini: 11
17. Kei Nishikori: 5
18. Tommy Robredo: 5
19. Gilles Simon: 2
20. Kevin Anderson: 6
21. Jerzy Janowicz: 1
22. Philipp Kohlschreiber: 0
23. Grigor Dimitrov: 3
24. Ernests Gulbis: 9
25. Andreas Seppi: 3
26. Benoit Paire: 0
27. Jurgen Melzer: 2
28. Feliciano Lopez: 6
29. Dmitry Tursunov: 2
30. Fernando Verdasco: 2

:)
I see the Swiss pride themselves on their punctuality! Having all those great timepiece manufacturers around must rub off, non/nein?
 

Chico

Banned
NAdal's challenger level draw from RG continues on Wimbledon as well. How much luck can this guy have?

Anyway, lets hope Kukushin can make a miracle and finish what Rosol and Darcis started, but I really doubt it. We would likely have to wait for a young gun Kyrgios or Vesely to do that on Monday.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
What is the purpose of having Sunday off? Say it rains on the other days - I've never heard of having the middle Sunday off.
Seriously? There's never any play during the second Sunday of Wimbledon. It's been like that for many years, I guess it's some kind of tradition they've always stuck to.
 

winstonlim8

Professional
Seriously? There's never any play during the second Sunday of Wimbledon. It's been like that for many years, I guess it's some kind of tradition they've always stuck to.
If I am not mistaken it became a tradition after Dorothy Round (Little) refused to play on Sundays because of her religious beliefs. She was the champion in 1934 and 1937, and her father was a minister. I think that's also why they shifted the Ladies Final to Saturday, but I could be wrong about that.
 

aldeayeah

Legend
Aldea, discipulusne (discipulane?) linguae Latinae es?

Edit: I doubt that very many (even serious) Roman history buffs would have "cunctator" come to mind when discussing this topic.
i would be a "discipulus", but nope

But I love history trivia, and Fabius the Delayer has always seemed an interesting character to me.
 
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