Wimbledon 2019 Final: Novak Djokovic [1] vs Roger Federer [2]

[merwy]

Yeah it's fun to read in hindsight but match was very heavy for me to watch while it happened. I almost wanted to vomit when Novak got broken for the 2nd time in the 5th set, just to laugh hysterically after he saved those CPs and broke back. Then that game at 11-11, from 40-0 up to BP for Federer and how Novak saved it by rushing the net... Insane match. I can't imagine how it felt to actually play it.

Fed was an idiot for not breaking there. It was his last chance to win the match. Got handed a way out on a silver platter but messed it up again

 

[Born_to_slice]

Fed was an idiot for not breaking there. It was his last chance to win the match. Got handed a way out on a silver platter but messed it up again

That's too harsh. He didn't have much angle and played hard to Novak's fh, which won him the points several times before in similar situations. This time Novak guessed and moved to cover the fh timely but still had to control very difficult volley. If Novak didn't move to cover the fh it would be a clean passing shot or almost impossible volley. It was not a perfect play choice in hindsight but that's faulty reasoning.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Yeah it's fun to read in hindsight but match was very heavy for me to watch while it happened. I almost wanted to vomit when Novak got broken for the 2nd time in the 5th set, just to laugh hysterically after he saved those CPs and broke back. Then that game at 11-11, from 40-0 up to BP for Federer and how Novak saved it by rushing the net... Insane match. I can't imagine how it felt to actually play it.

Very tense from start to finish, wasn't fun at all. Wanted to punch Novak through the screen when he smirked at 11-11 after saving a break point. Dude was smiling while I was shaking like an epileptic LOL.

I have no interest in rewatching it again. Except the 8-7 game and the final tiebreak maybe.

 

[Born_to_slice]

Very tense from start to finish, wasn't fun at all. Wanted to punch Novak through the screen when he smirked at 11-11 after saving a break point. Dude was smiling while I was shaking like an epileptic LOL.

I have no interest in rewatching it again. Except the 8-7 game and the final tiebreak maybe.

Agree 100%. I tried to watch a whole match again but couldn't do it. Watching it made me nervous as if they're still playing. Kept skipping the parts when Novak was passive and disinterested.

 

[Mike Sams]

Not at the grass. The grass is an overview of Stan's worst surface, Wimbledon is the only GS tournament where Stan has not reached at least SF participation and is unlikely, that this fact to change in the future.
The grass could be described as the only current surface where Djoker was safe from Stanimal.

Djokovic isn't safe anywhere in a Slam against Stan. Not even grass. And Stan can play on grass. He just happens to lose in 5 sets to guys like Murray and Gasquet. Probably would've taken Djoker 5 sets to beat Stan at Wimbledon...if he could pull it off. Stan has no fear of the Djoker's game in Slams and that makes him a threat.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Djokovic isn't safe anywhere in a Slam against Stan. Not even grass. And Stan can play on grass. He just happens to lose in 5 sets to guys like Murray and Gasquet. Probably would've taken Djoker 5 sets to beat Stan at Wimbledon...if he could pull it off. Stan has no fear of the Djoker's game in Slams and that makes him a threat.

Stan can’t even make to Djokovic anymore. Therefore this is not even an issue going forward for Novak!

 

[Otacon]

Stan can’t even make to Djokovic anymore. Therefore this is not even an issue going forward for Novak!

Well said ..

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Well said ..

That’s what you call shooting myself in the foot! I take my medicine and karma haha!

 

[Tenez101]

FAR higher quality from both players than the 2008 Wimbledon final.

I agree, will hold you to this.

 

[Tenez101]

If Novak wins 13-12 I win 5 million on a one dollar bet

Update?

 

[MichaelNadal]

End of the road for Federer here. He's lucked his way this far, but Djokovic will give him the beatdown he is long overdue for. Djokovic in either 3 or 4 sets.

Fed in 5. The 5th set will be a serving clinic from Rog.

What a final to look forward too! I think fed has a good chance on that form, however hoping novaks level will be too much. It could go 5, I will say Novak in 5!

Federer in 3 pretty easy sets, unless he has a stinker where he throws one away like he did today. Should be a comfortable victory though today was the much more difficult task.

I'll go for Federer in 4 again. Have to believe!

The 2 best grass court players in the game today. What's not to like? If Djokovic forces Federer to play his grinding game then Nole in 4. Federer needs to be very aggressive especially on his return of serve and just go for it. Flip a coin to pick the winner. Hope it's a classic.

Federer breaks! Will serve for the match!

Holy Hell!
He's gonna do it!!

Cmon Federer, redline this.

Congrats to the great Federer fans out there. He was superb today. Enjoy.

oh man please dont do a Us Open 2011

40-15 on serve. Federer's "favorite" score. Missed one matchpoint already.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT is a choke

This will be the worst loss i've ever seen.

This will be the worst if it happens.

 

[DSH]

Update?

is he millionaire, now?

 

[maratha_warrior]

. Epic thread .

 

[Sudacafan]

. Epic thread .

Agree. Time to get it scraped and sent to trash bin.

 

[Sudacafan]

I think that the result of Wim 19 final was the real cause of this pandemic. Very clear, under every scientific approach.
An omen, a curse.
Wimbledon will never be played again.

 

[AceSalvo]

I think that the result of Wim 19 final was the real cause of this pandemic. Very clear, under every scientific approach.
An omen, a curse.
Wimbledon will never be played again.

yea, Fed worked on that "Pharma" stuff real good this time around. Guess this loss did get to his nerves. Can't blame him.

 

[EzekielTennis]

Today marks the 1-year anniversary of this historic moment in sports!
Credit: Nole Fam

 

[maratha_warrior]

 

[Deleted member 744633]

Today marks the 1-year anniversary of this historic moment in sports!
Credit: Nole Fam

LOL, brilliant!

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Toxic Djokovic fans all around

 

[maratha_warrior]

Toxic Djokovic fans all around

 

[Hitman]

Has to be the longest match thread in TTW history.

 

[maratha_warrior]

Has to be the longest match thread in TTW history.

This thread will be a remainder for future generations . This was the match where GOAT debate changed forever . Especially matchpoints

 

[BeatlesFan]

This thread will be a remainder for future generations . This was the match where GOAT debate changed forever . Especially matchpoints

Bump this when Djokovic gets to 20 slams. because that's the moment (if it happens) when the GOAT debate will change.

 

[maratha_warrior]

Bump this when Djokovic gets to 20 slams. because that's the moment (if it happens) when the GOAT debate will change.

Nadal is almost certain to get to 20 slams now . So Ofcourse WB 19 matchpoints did affect Goat debate . Let's see if Djokovic gets to 20 or not

 

[RokasLTU]

Has to be the longest match thread in TTW history.

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2018-wimbledon-sf-2-nadal-vs-12-djokovic.621351/page-152

 

[Mike Sams]

This thread will be a remainder for future generations . This was the match where GOAT debate changed forever . Especially matchpoints

Is Djokovic the GOAT? I thought Nadal was ahead of him in the Slam count? And then there's that old guy Federer who's still currently in the lead.

 

[Mike Sams]

Toxic Djokovic fans all around

Bandwagoners. Not fans.

 

[Mike Sams]

Today marks the 1-year anniversary of this historic moment in sports!
Credit: Nole Fam

The worst thing is Federer lost 4 consecutive points right from this moment. But that's nothing new. Same thing has happened with him many times against other opponents.

 

[maratha_warrior]

Is Djokovic the GOAT? I thought Nadal was ahead of him in the Slam count? And then there's that old guy Federer who's still currently in the lead.

English padd le thik se . kya Likha hai Mene ?

Nadal will reach 20 or more slams .it's just a matter of time now .
and hopefully Djokovic too might touch 20 .. let's see .

But if fed converted those matchpoints against Novak then it would have been very dificult for Novak and Nadal to cross Fed .

 

[Enceladus]

Very tense from start to finish, wasn't fun at all. Wanted to punch Novak through the screen when he smirked at 11-11 after saving a break point. Dude was smiling while I was shaking like an epileptic LOL.

I have no interest in rewatching it again. Except the 8-7 game and the final tiebreak maybe.

Agree 100%. I tried to watch a whole match again but couldn't do it. Watching it made me nervous as if they're still playing. Kept skipping the parts when Novak was passive and disinterested.

On the other hand, I saw the Wimbledon 2019 final again 5/6 months ago. The whole match.

 

[Enceladus]

Has to be the longest match thread in TTW history.

TOP 5 match threads:
1. Djokovic d. Nadal in Wimbledon 2018 SF, 152 pages
2. Djokovic d. Federer in Wimbledon 2019 F, 103 pages
3. Djokovic d. Nadal at AO 2012 F, 96 pages
4. Nadal d. Djokovic at RG 2013 SF, 91 pages
5. Djokovic d. Federer at USO 2015 F, 87 pages

 

[Deleted member 688153]

corona has probably stuffed the quote unquote goat debate

But let nadal or djok have it at this point. Maybe they already deserve the title tbh. i cant believe i spent years caring who the best guy was

 

[arvind13]

corona has probably stuffed the quote unquote goat debate

But let nadal or djok have it at this point. Maybe they already deserve the title tbh. i cant believe i spent years caring who the best guy was

how do they already deserve it. especially djokovic. djokovic is 17 slams to fed's 20. he has more masters titles than federers, but federer has more overall titles more weeks at no 1. djokovic leads in h2h although not by a huge gap.

and djokovic and nadal fans always brush the huge age gap between fed and djokovic/nadal under the carpet. djokovic started winning more after fed became 30.

 

[BeatlesFan]

djokovic started winning more after fed became 30.

And Djokovic at age 35-38 faces a GOAT in endless big matches? That's not going to happen. Fed at those ages had to continually play the second and third greatest player ever when he was 5-6 years older than either. That's the point here.

 

[The Guru]

And Djokovic at age 35-38 faces a GOAT in endless big matches? That's not going to happen. Fed at those ages had to continually play the first and second greatest player ever when he was 5-6 years older than either. That's the point here.

FTFY

 

[arvind13]

And Djokovic at age 35-38 faces a GOAT in endless big matches? That's not going to happen. Fed at those ages had to continually play the second and third greatest player ever when he was 5-6 years older than either. That's the point here.

FTFY

Here i'm going to have to disagree with all fans of the big 3. I don't think fed's the GOAT, neither are nadal or djokovic. sure they have the numbers on their side in terms of slams and titles and longeivity. but the quality of opposition and playing conditions HAVE to be taken into account. fed did indeed play in a weak era compared to sampras, edberg, becker. but so did djokovic and nadal. and djokovic and nadal are playing a much weaker field today than fed ever did. IMO sampras is the GOAT. he had to deal with true surface variety, more play style variety, more depth of field in his career than the big 3. and he was far ahead of his rivals in terms of accomplishments.

 

[maratha_warrior]

And Djokovic at age 35-38 faces a GOAT in endless big matches? That's not going to happen. Fed at those ages had to continually play the second and third greatest player ever when he was 5-6 years older than either. That's the point here.

After age 35 , Fed face Djokovic only twice , WB 2019 and AO 2020 .

And at AO2020 , Fed was injured when he played Novak is semis . So wouldn't have had much chance against Thiem .

While I agree with you here that Fed did face Djokovic 4 times at age 33 to 35 . and he did had age disadvantage .

 

[Nostradamus]

greatest choke of all time ??

 

[Lleytonstation]

Fed deserves to lose this. Period.

@TheNachoMan you jerk

 

[TheNachoMan]

@TheNachoMan you jerk

You were always a Novak fan. It just took a while for you to fully realize it

 

[Lleytonstation]

You were always a Novak fan. It just took a while for you to fully realize it

Good I can rid myself of this time period. What a terrible piece of historical documents.

 

[EzekielTennis]

Happy Two-Year Anniversary!

 

[Third Serve]

Happy Two-Year Anniversary!

ban post, delete op

 

[Sudacafan]

ban post, delete op

Delete thread, execute OP.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

That match was one of the greatest rollercoasters of all time.

Set 1: Federer BP up 2-1* A-40
Set 1: Djokovic mBP up TB 3-1*
Set 1: Federer mBP up TB *5-3
Set 1: Djokovic win 7-6(5)
Set 2: Federer win 6-1
Set 3: Federer SP up 5-4* 40-30
Set 3: Djokovic win 7-6(4)
Set 4: Federer win 6-4
Set 5: Djokovic 3BPs up 2-1* 40-15, A-40
Set 5: Djokovic *4-2 30-30 up
Set 5: Federer 2MPs up *8-7 40-15
Set 5: Federer 2BPs up 11-11* 40-30, A-40
Set 5: Djokovic win 13-12(3)

14 huge momentum shifts.

 

[Deleted member 771911]

Federer in five

 

[gjm127]

40-15 on serve. Federer's "favorite" score. Missed one matchpoint already.

I found the first instance of a "40-15" post on TTW.

 

[Tennisfan339]

That match was one of the greatest rollercoasters of all time.

Set 1: Federer BP up 2-1* A-40
Set 1: Djokovic mBP up TB 3-1*
Set 1: Federer mBP up TB *5-3
Set 1: Djokovic win 7-6(5)
Set 2: Federer win 6-1
Set 3: Federer SP up 5-4* 40-30
Set 3: Djokovic win 7-6(4)
Set 4: Federer win 6-4
Set 5: Djokovic 3BPs up 2-1* 40-15, A-40
Set 5: Djokovic *4-2 30-30 up
Set 5: Federer 2MPs up *8-7 40-15
Set 5: Federer 2BPs up 11-11* 40-30, A-40
Set 5: Djokovic win 13-12(3)

14 huge momentum shifts.

Boy, I still haven't fully recovered from this match, tbh. I don't think I ever will. I wasn't even rooting for anyone in particular, although in general I prefer Djokovic. I enjoy and admire both players, and just wanted to see a good match, but it was better than this.

In terms of level of tennis I don't think it's the best match ever (easily in the top-10 though) But in terms of drama/prestige/scenario/legacy/history this final is still unmatched and will remain forever. Most prestigious tournament in the world, final, number #1 and #2 at the time, best players of the century on grass, total of 36 slams on the court before the match (record), oldest slam final since 1971 (37+33=70 years), 2nd longest match of Federer's career (after Rome 2006 final), longest Wimbledon final EVER, longest match of Wimbledon 2019, record of points between the loser and winner (-14), first 12-12 tie-break in the history, first time the champion wins 3 tie-breaks in a slam final, 2nd time in open era the GS winner saves match points (after Gaudio in 2004), etc... I'm still blown away.

And 2 years later, this match seems even more important for the slam Race. Somehow I doubt it would be 21-19 right now if Federer had won this match. We will never know if Djokovic would have 19, or 18 or would still be stuck at 15, but I can positively say he wouldn't be aiming for the CYGS at the moment. I'm also quite confident when I say this is the first and ONLY time we'll get to see 2 guys with 15-20 slams and 600+ weeks at number #1 playing an epic 5th set tie-break in a slam final, let alone with such a dramatic 5th set. If it happens again one day we won't be here to witness it. This match (more than any other) will be remembered and talked about for decades, no matter who wins the slam race in the end. I bet in 2040 we will still be reading threads about 40-15 on tennis forums.

 

[jm1980]

Let's see if Djokovic gets to 20 or not

He did. Ombeleeble