Breakpointerer
Legend
Not saying he won't , just saying its more likely that he gets passed.
Wimbledon 2019 QF : Roger Federer (3) -SUI vs Kei Nishikori(8) -JAP
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Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe if you account for the way the media might/will latch onto that storyline. Wouldn't change my mind about it though.
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
You an India fan? Sorry, didn’t see that one coming today! Think the Aussies will pummel my lot tomorrow though...
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
But it comes down to this. Either he keeps the slam record and the H2H doesn't matter (or very little), or Nadal passes him and the H2H still doesn't matter because Nadal's first best argument then will he having more slams than Federer. If they end up tied it comes down to how much importance people put on various factors like WTF titles and/or weeks at #1 vs the H2H. So then it's extremely subjective.
It's very subjective anyway IMO, but that's another thread for another day.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Man.......
Let me get up outta here
Check the match stats guys. +23 W/UE
43% return points won.
Bad on BP's.
As Winston Chruchill famously said it: "I am easily satisfied by the very best."
stringertom
Bionic Poster
fedr dropped from 61% BP conversion to 51% for the tournament, still highest of the Final Four.55/32 Winners/UE
43% return points won (5% higher than grass career)
Serve stats are down because of 1st set mostly.
Played great at the net. Just bad BP conversion.
Good match overall
VacationTennis
Semi-Pro
Thought Fed's backhand was lookin a little better today, still not Neo bh but I'll take it
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
Mike, tell me right now that you think Nadal is a better player than Fed on grass or HC over the course of their career? And keep a straight face while you do it!
Friday will be one match. A semi that will feel like a final for us Fed fans, safe in the knowledge that Nadal has to beat his Krptonite in the final to get his grubbies on that 3rd Wimbledon trophy.
And you know what, if he does it, fair play. Nadal is great too.
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
True. Tasty weak era, nom nom nom...
Breakpointerer
Legend
Really hope England get through so we'll have a new champion.. Can't stomach the thought of Australia winning it for a sixth time!
mike danny
Bionic Poster
The problem is Federee has always lost the biggest matches to Nadal. Losing on Friday would enforce the idea that AO 2017 was just a fluke.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I am not penalizing him for this match. I am penalizing him for losing big matches all the time against Nadal.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
He is not greater on HC and grass, but I have a hard time saying Federer is a better tennis player than Nadal when they face each other.
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Match up issue. So what?
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
Well there’s nothing I can do for you mate, ‘cos he’s not winning this one at age 37. The other matches were already done and dusted long ago. Fed has won his share of big matches off the dirt, including against the Nadal.
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
AO17 will never be considered a fluke by anyone that is not a member of the Nadal militia.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
except he backed it up at IW, Miami, Shanghai so how could that have been a fluke when he beat him each time they met that year
AceSalvo
Legend
Fed did kick it up a notch.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Truth is, he didn't even have to back it up in 2017 to prove his AO win wasn't a fluke. He had beaten Nadal 10 times before that. The whole notion is LAWLworthy.
Rogfan
Professional
Well don’t say it then. Do you live on the internet? I have no problem saying when these two do meet, Nadal is the better player in slams so far. But they approach their career very differently. One is about consistency and overall greatness, the other is about maximise his very best while he’s feeling his best. Anyone with objective eyes know how to analyse these two’s careers. How many times they’ve met at Wimbledon and how many times in FO? 20 is still bigger than 18 at this point and Roger has 102. How many Nadal has?
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
@Rago @Poisoned Slice @Azure @TearTheRoofOff
My brother let the cat out when he had visited ... imagine me having to forgive my brother if my cat had died. My model cat who has been on a cat magazine cover no joke. Luckily he’s smart. I put his litterbox and food out. Woke up every hour on the hour to search for him. Finally found him after I thought the universe was trolling me cuz he went in the litterbox but had vanished again. So relieved right now. I care more about animals than most people I care about. He looks grateful right? Wrong. He looks mad I stopped his great cat adventure.
Safe to say after that relief I’m ready for anything Fedal can throw at me
My brother let the cat out when he had visited ... imagine me having to forgive my brother if my cat had died. My model cat who has been on a cat magazine cover no joke. Luckily he’s smart. I put his litterbox and food out. Woke up every hour on the hour to search for him. Finally found him after I thought the universe was trolling me cuz he went in the litterbox but had vanished again. So relieved right now. I care more about animals than most people I care about. He looks grateful right? Wrong. He looks mad I stopped his great cat adventure.
Safe to say after that relief I’m ready for anything Fedal can throw at me
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
I can't for the life of me recall us having an exchange about our indoor cats, but I don't doubt it given the topic of this post!
I understand the relief well. If your cat looked grateful for all that, he'd be a dog, and they bark and smell.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Remember yesterday I said in the match thread he was hiding better than TTW claims Fed hides from RAFA
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Azure
G.O.A.T.
Totally understand what a nightmare it must have been!!!! Was there a paparazzi chasing him on his adventures? Graham is more human than most humans are.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
OK, got it! I too have indoor cats, and ended up having one escape (I now let him out regularly), so had similar anxiety at the time. I thought I must have told you this before since you tagged me in a very similar story.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Yes two strays were following him they constantly faked me out thinking I had found him only to be denied
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
I was beyond scared he’s not even 3 yet and never been outside. Luckily he is the smartest cat I’ve ever had. Like spooky smart. I do honestly believe the litterbox and scent brought him back. The useful things you pick up working in animal shelters during college.
Azure
G.O.A.T.
We have a nice semi indoor/outdoor cat as well who keeps going in and out. He seems to have become a half dog. He keeps waiting for me in the driveway without getting bored - that's not cat behaviour at all :O
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
Nobody who saw that match will call it a fluke. In fact, Federer won all the matches he played versus Nadal that year.
This though, may very well be Roger's last season. So not sure he's keeping that record but then not sure it's going to matter to him either.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
i just wish he had maybe taken a set at FO or got it to tb. I know he was able to break nadal once (can't remember if it was more than that) and get bps, but I'd be like okay if he played him somewhat close at rg than maybe he can do this at wimbledon
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
I agree that the head to head is not that significant, but if Federer loses on Friday, Nadal is only one match away from almost certainly taking away Federer's sole possession of the slam record. The chances of Nadal not winning at least one more Roland Garros title are slim.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Cool story bro.
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
Don’t forget those filthy conditions though. Not an excuse, Rafa dealt with them better, but Fed did ok. He might have won a set given normal conditions, but we’ll never know.
Different match tomorrow. Looking forward to Fed giving it a go.
Povl Carstensen
Legend
Just like the other 4 matches in that streak.
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