Dominic & Andrey
Legend
What a MP from Cilic. What a Player. Munar will be tricky next round though.
Wimbledon 2025 - 2nd round - Jack Draper (4) vs Marin Cilic
Maddamhussein
Rookie
I somewhat agree and would agree more if I felt he could give Sinacraz the business in similar fashion, which of course he’d be a major underdog to do.
ojo rojo
Legend
“If it weren’t for those blisters”
NYTennisfan
Hall of Fame
And Fritz has barely been skirting by.
The gap between the top 2 then Djokovic since he's 2nd tier now to the next tier is as massive as I've ever seen in mens tennis. Even in the Big 3 era, Murray was always lurking then Stan for a few years but there's nobody remotely close now.
Tennfan123
Legend
I hate to brag but I had my broken clock moment with this one. Proof can be found in the men’s thread. It just had upset all over it.
Zodd
Hall of Fame
That’s crazy - and now he beats the fourth seed
EddieChang
Professional
Still would’ve lost use 2016 Wimbledon as a reference
Rebel-I.N.S
Hall of Fame
80s gen reigns supreme once more.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Old guard showing some life this WImbledon, very nice to see.
ojo rojo
Legend
Chill Eddie, it’s a joke about blisters
Kralingen
Bionic Poster
I think he could absolutely beat Alcaraz on first week grass. The level he brought today was a lot better than Fognini’s on Monday. Additionally, he pushed Raz to 5 in 2022 at the US Open despite being old af back then as well.
Sinner probably a more difficult challenge. He will also lose to his father Djokovic if they play here, unfortunately.
Badabing888
Hall of Fame
Was so looking forward to a Draper v Bublik 3rd round on CC. But it won’t happen.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
How very expected. If there is one thing I know, it's British tennis players, kid.
Mark Anderson
Professional
Carlos girl? Don't bank on it.
I saw Cilic play the world no. 229 Zachary Svajda at Ilkley a few weeks ago. At that stage, he struggled to move, was completely powerless in most of the baseline rallies, and he barely threatened on Svajda’s serve (he had 0 break points). He was heavily reliant on big serves to win points.
Clearly he was very much finding his feet again on grass at that stage, and has improved considerably since then, winning the title Nottingham in-between then and the main event.
I remember the nature of his defeat to Pella in 2018, when many people thought he was a title contender, and how it triggered a sharp decline.
I thought that many analysts, including numerous non-British ones, were jumping the gun in anointing Draper as a serious title contender at this tournament, clearly largely due to his nationality. I thought that the realistic aim this year, and before the draw came out, was for him to reach the last 8. I still expected him to clear the 2nd round here for the first time in his career !
Clearly he was very much finding his feet again on grass at that stage, and has improved considerably since then, winning the title Nottingham in-between then and the main event.
I remember the nature of his defeat to Pella in 2018, when many people thought he was a title contender, and how it triggered a sharp decline.
I thought that many analysts, including numerous non-British ones, were jumping the gun in anointing Draper as a serious title contender at this tournament, clearly largely due to his nationality. I thought that the realistic aim this year, and before the draw came out, was for him to reach the last 8. I still expected him to clear the 2nd round here for the first time in his career !
DSH
Bionic Poster
Only here did they believe the Briton had the pedigree to go far in his home Major tournament.
Clearly it wasn't like that.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
It happened! Nice one bro
toby55555
Hall of Fame
No problem if Cam wins the title.
RSJfan
Legend
They used to do it with Timmy too.
At least Henman had reached 2 Wimbledon quarter-finals by this stage of his career though. Draper is still yet to even reach the 3rd round.
Draper was pretty open in his press conference about his forehand is far better suited to hard courts and clay, and than on grass it is vulnerable to pace and being rushed.
Some the biggest arrogance by the British media when it came to tennis, was at Wimbledon 2009, when they widely assumed that there would be a Federer-Murray final, and that everyone else in the draw was basically irrelevant. There were even previews about what might happen in a Federer-Murray final, on the morning of the semi-finals. I'll never forget John Lloyd 'insisting' that Murray was the favourite, ahead of his semi-final in 2011. McEnroe, no stranger to saying dumb things himself as an analyst over the years, was trying not to laugh.
medieval_remnant
Semi-Pro
Draper looks like an overachiever as were the NextGeners
Maria & Newport Breakers
New User
Thoughts:
1. Draper losing = bad for tennis. Great to have a good looking superstar brit to be hyped by such an influential media market as the UK. Not saying i’m a Draper fan, just that his success is a good thing.
2. Awesome to see Cilic roll back the years. Who can’t appreciate the aging veteran battling back from surgeries to have another moment in the sun? “He ain’t as good as he once was, but he can be good once, as he ever was.”
3. Of course he will now immediately lose to Munar—the worst possible result for the good of the sport.
1. Draper losing = bad for tennis. Great to have a good looking superstar brit to be hyped by such an influential media market as the UK. Not saying i’m a Draper fan, just that his success is a good thing.
2. Awesome to see Cilic roll back the years. Who can’t appreciate the aging veteran battling back from surgeries to have another moment in the sun? “He ain’t as good as he once was, but he can be good once, as he ever was.”
3. Of course he will now immediately lose to Munar—the worst possible result for the good of the sport.
