Wimbledon rule change after Nadal-Djokovic roof controversy

Biotic

Hall of Fame
ThickCreamyHumpbackwhale.webp


One of the best days in tennis history that marked the end of mid 2016 - mid 2018 peak vulturing period.

Roof or not, Djoko wasn't gonna be denied.

That said... I'm ready for more whining from the Vulture brigade. :D
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
You are correct about the rules. The rule was that the match will continue in the settings of the previous day UNLESS both players agree to open the roof. Nadal wanted in to open, Djokovic said that they will continue like the day before. End of the story, nothing controversial about it. Nadal had a bad luck that the day that he had probably one of the best grass court form of the last 10 years, freakin Anderson and Isner decided to ruin the day.

And yes Nadal would beat Anderson easily. Anderson was really tired after that Isner match plus he wasn't that good of a player as redlining Muller. Rosol and Brown met Nadal when he played really badly at Wimb. The real final was Djokodal semi and Djokovic deserved that win. Wimbledon is so much about serve/return dynamic and he is better at it than Nadal on fast conditions.
Fans always have excuse of their favorite player loss ( Nadal fans especially , bad form , injury) , never for rival ( on the contrary love to rub losses ) .Interesting. I just saw you doing it in other thread


Hypothetical matches work both way , this time I'm not convinced Nadal would win against Anderson, he struggled against big servers at Wimbledon since, well ,Kendrick. Redlining Anderson> redlining Muler


The only reason Djokovic won that match was the roof being closed. It gave him the extra edge he needed in the serve-return dynamic. Nadal was the better player in the match and should have won.

It is essentially a "stolen" title for Djokovic, with a big asterisk.

RG 2021 was also a steal, if you don't believe it, ask Strongrule.
:giggle:
fuu-rage.gif

ThickCreamyHumpbackwhale.webp


One of the best days in tennis history that marked the end of mid 2016 - mid 2018 peak vulturing period.

Roof or not, Djoko wasn't gonna be denied.

That said... I'm ready for more whining from the Vulture brigade. :D
Draw Nadal in no man land to pass him , similarly to RF at W19
 

jl809

Hall of Fame
Nadal in 4 if this is outdoors. But Djoker still wins the ‘18 Open and the slam race in the end
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
ThickCreamyHumpbackwhale.webp


One of the best days in tennis history that marked the end of mid 2016 - mid 2018 peak vulturing period.

Roof or not, Djoko wasn't gonna be denied.

That said... I'm ready for more whining from the Vulture brigade. :D

All Rafa had to do was hit a hard BH up the line. Novak was so ready for that CC.
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
The day that marked the rise of the ultimate vulture in tennis. Sad day for the sport in retrospective, even if I cheered for the guy during that match.
Vulture just ended his vulturing once for all (see how easy is to get that low, on troll level) .
Nadal in 4 if this is outdoors. But Djoker still wins the ‘18 Open and the slam race in the end
Nah, trolls always get all wrong , Djokovic wins in 4 if it was outdoor , that would mean they managed to finish the match in one day . Novak just won another monumental TB and has momentum on his side, Nadal is starting to feel the legs from 5h SF... rest gave him 4,5th set wind
 

SonnyT

Legend
Nadal's camp should never let be known what they prefer, because given a choice Djokovic would just do the opposite!

And they hopelessly whined!
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
And they hopelessly whined!

(Muller loss 2017)
“I like playing more on Centre Court. Someone has to play on Centre, and it’s almost always the same players here. This is the reality. Here, there are many of us who have won a lot in our careers, who have a lot of important history behind us.
A tournament that wants to be as traditional and as special as Wimbledon has to distribute the number of matches scheduled on Centre Court and that not always the same people play there, and when there are doubts, the others are sent to other courts.”
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
I will never forget it. The build up, night match under the lights (but got postponed after 3 sets), Djokovic vs Nadal, the sound of the ball as it echoed throughout the centre centre court. You could hear a pin drop. I envy those people who were in the stadium that day. They experienced something special. A sporting event for the ages.

And Djokovic coming out of it as a winner after almost 2 years watching Nadal and Federer pile up slams while he couldn’t do anything about it. The saved BPs late in the 5th, just wow. After that he was truly back. Thinking of this match always puts a smile on my face, more than any other.
Yep, you just knew the tide had shifed and Djokovic was back after that match, and winning that title. Definitely one of my favorite Wimbledons since I've been watching tennis.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
We are two!
:mad:
:mad:

Jarrett has previous too. 2007, when he didn't allow play on the Middle Sunday with dry weather forecast, while Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday had scattered showers across London. The result was that Nadal played every day in the second week and then lost a 5-set final to Federer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DSH

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru

Jarrett has previous too. 2007, when he didn't allow play on the Middle Sunday with dry weather forecast, while Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday had scattered showers across London. The result was that Nadal played every day in the second week and then lost a 5-set final to Federer.
Son of a b...!
:mad::mad::mad:
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
NONSENSE! It was Wimbledon's rule to give players the choice in that situation, NOT Novak's rule. Nadal lost that match, fair and square, deal with it!
If you asked a thousand players from all levels around the world if they would want the roof open in that situations, they would all want to play with an open roof. I think we can all agree with that.

It’s not about whether or not he won. The choice gave him an advantage over Nadal. I strongly believe Nadal would’ve won the match had they played with the roof open.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DSH

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
If you asked a thousand players from all levels around the world if they would want the roof open in that situations, they would all want to play with an open roof. I think we can all agree with that.

It’s not about whether or not he won. The choice gave him an advantage over Nadal. I strongly believe Nadal would’ve won the match had they played with the roof open.

Lol!
 

Enceladus

Legend
If you asked a thousand players from all levels around the world if they would want the roof open in that situations, they would all want to play with an open roof. I think we can all agree with that.

It’s not about whether or not he won. The choice gave him an advantage over Nadal. I strongly believe Nadal would’ve won the match had they played with the roof open.
LOL, only a dolt would pick the open roof against Nadal. :-D:-D
 

SonnyT

Legend
Djokovic wanted the roof stay closed, because he wanted to annoy Nadal. It was team Nadal's mistake to let the world know his preference!
 

alexio

G.O.A.T.
strange rule it was, (dunno whats up there with that as of now) ..if its starting to rain, then we can close roof, but if rain is finished we only can continue to play under the roof and cant open it
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
all england cheaters club denied nadal at least 2 wimbledon victories 2007 and 2018 which would have easily opened the flood gates for 2 more.....pathetic pigs dumb wimbledon organizers.....
 
  • Like
Reactions: DSH

Mustard

Bionic Poster
A lot of people might not remember that Britain from around 28 May to 23 July in 2018 had a huge heatwave, always in the 28 to 36 degree range every day. There was barely any rain in that whole period. The entire 2018 Wimbledon tournament was played outdoors except one match.
 

BlueB

Legend
If you asked a thousand players from all levels around the world if they would want the roof open in that situations, they would all want to play with an open roof. I think we can all agree with that.
Professional tennis should only be played indoors, when there is an opportunity. No interruptions, no wind to interfere with proper play, no bad light...
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
Professional tennis should only be played indoors, when there is an opportunity. No interruptions, no wind to interfere with proper play, no bad light...
The roof has a purpose in tennis and that is to keep play continuous for obvious reasons.

I don’t mind a windy match at all. It brings interesting challenges for both players. The sun also poses challenges for players as well. The elements in tennis help keeps things interesting and unpredictable.
 

joshuayuan

Professional
It turns out Nadal was right. It is an outdoor tournament and should be played outdoors. It allowed Djokovic unfair advantage to win 2018 Wimbledon. The rule has been changed. No player consultation now. It will automatically be played outdoors even if it started under the roof the next day.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/30/nada...ange-murray-learns-wildcard-deadline-9368482/

To be fair, the next two Slams after that, USO 2018 and AO 2019 finals were played outdoor lmaoooo.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
strange rule it was, (dunno whats up there with that as of now) ..if its starting to rain, then we can close roof, but if rain is finished we only can continue to play under the roof and cant open it
Strange rule was allowing Rafa to have his breath back when they suspended the match without any reason ( or anything doing with climate), he was trailing in 2-1 set with brutal five set match in previous round and this match was already has three hours
This rule nearly screwed Novak two time , in 2015 a physical spent Anderson was allowed to have a life which nearly cost Novak fifth set without any reason
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
To be fair, the next two Slams after that, USO 2018 and AO 2019 finals were played outdoor lmaoooo.
You are being defensive, never be defensive when you are right, don't rub it but put your point.
Ask Rafan why match went in to next day in first place, why Rafa was favored to suspend match when he was trailing in 2-1 set after brutal five set against Delpo.
They never say that that rule helped Rafa, they always cry about roof rule.
 

Enceladus

Legend
Cowardice if I ever saw it.
This is not cowardice, but logical reasoning. If Federer, Djokovic, Sampras or Becker were in Nadal's place, their opponent would agree to open the roof, because these champions are great both in the outdoor environment and in the indoor environment. But Nadal is weaker in the indoor environment, which is also evidenced by 0 titles from WTF. With his drill, Toni prepared his nephew for many things, but not for the indoor environment. Rafa can only blame himself for not being a better player under the closed roof. 8-B
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
A lot of people might not remember that Britain from around 28 May to 23 July in 2018 had a huge heatwave, always in the 28 to 36 degree range every day. There was barely any rain in that whole period. The entire 2018 Wimbledon tournament was played outdoors except one match.
Wimbledon don't follow ususal rule, do they? They had stadium with roof, why match was suspended to other day? One rule helped Rafa and other Novak
When other slam don't suspend match if no other match is scheduled, that is the point of roof, other slam also shift matches to complete it , trying to to complete in same day.
 
Last edited:

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Why match went into other day? They were playing in stadium with roof right?
Do you mean curfew time?
Well, that rule was established, unlike one that was taken from the ace up its sleeve and that was rectified a year later.
A real nonsense on the part of the Wimbledon Committee.
(n)
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Mind you the rule that nearly cost Djokovic two Wimbledon (2015, 2018) is still in place and can cost other player a big match in upcoming Wimbledon
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Do you mean curfew time?
Well, that rule was established, unlike one that was taken from the ace up its sleeve and that was rectified a year later.
A real nonsense on the part of the Wimbledon Committee.
(n)
Of course curfew time lol, that rule was established, of course you will say that because it helped Rafa in 2018
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Wimbledon don't follow ususal rule, do they? They had stadium with roof, why match was suspended to other day?
An 11pm curfew agreement with the local council (i.e. Merton). Although even there Wimbledon broke the rule that day, going to 11:03pm (I think) so that the third set tiebreak could be completed. Nadal had missed set points, and Djokovic took a 2-1 sets lead instead.

One rule helped Rafa and other Novak
What helped Rafa?
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
An 11pm curfew agreement with the local council (i.e. Merton). Although even there Wimbledon broke the rule that day, going to 11:03pm (I think) so that the third set tiebreak could be completed. Nadal had missed set points, and Djokovic took a 2-1 sets lead instead.


What helped Rafa?

I believe they phoned for permission to go over slightly so the match could be concluded.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Do you mean curfew time?
Well, that rule was established, unlike one that was taken from the ace up its sleeve and that was rectified a year later.
A real nonsense on the part of the Wimbledon Committee.
(n)
I'm pretty sure that even that curfew rule was broken, going to about 11:03pm to finish the third set, which was slightly later than the 2012 third round match between Murray and Baghdatis, a match that ended at 11:02pm.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DSH
Top