Wise 2086 Gripper Slipping

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the_ghost

New User
Hello All,
Hoping you can help or point me in the right direction.

I have a wise 2086 tension head (no diabolo) set up on a Gamma 5003 stringing machine. A few racquets ago, the string started slipping in the gripper. I started checking around on the forums and found there is an allen screw in the back that can be turned all the way in. I did this but the gripper still slips so I've been using a starting clamp behind the gripper.

I've cleaned out the gripper too but no luck. Any ideas on what to do next? Thanks for any / all help!
 
Irvin

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
the_ghost said:
Hello All,
Hoping you can help or point me in the right direction.

I have a wise 2086 tension head (no diabolo) set up on a Gamma 5003 stringing machine. A few racquets ago, the string started slipping in the gripper. I started checking around on the forums and found there is an allen screw in the back that can be turned all the way in. I did this but the gripper still slips so I've been using a starting clamp behind the gripper.

I've cleaned out the gripper too but no luck. Any ideas on what to do next? Thanks for any / all help!
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That screw is a limit screw, if you turn it all the way in it limits the travel of the gripper which mean it does not close as far. Turn it out. The gripper close as the plates move forward. If you limit the forward movement you’re limiting the gripping ability.
 
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the_ghost

New User
Irvin said:
That screw is a limit screw, if you turn it all the way in it limits the travel of the gripper which mean it does not close as far. Turn it out. The gripper close as the plates move forward. If you limit the forward movement you’re limiting the gripping ability.
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Thanks Irvin - I'll give that a try!
 
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Wes

Hall of Fame
Irvin said:
That screw is a limit screw, if you turn it all the way in it limits the travel of the gripper which mean it does not close as far. Turn it out.
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This isn't correct.
Turning the screw out will make the string slip more, not less.

Turning the screw in allows the gripper plates to travel further forward.
Backing the screw out is what actually prevents (i.e. limits) the gripper from traveling further forward than you want it to (i.e. to minimize ghosting/crushing of the string).

See around 3:30 here...

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Wes

Hall of Fame
Irvin said:
See post 5
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Composed before post 5 was submitted.

Furthermore, trying to prevent future readers from being confounded by your incorrect info.

However, nice attempt to "pivot" from the fact that you've (again) doled out shoddy information.
 
Irvin

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Wes said:
Composed before post 5 was submitted.

Furthermore, trying to prevent future readers from being confounded by your incorrect info.

However, nice attempt to "pivot" from the fact that you've (again) doled out shoddy information.
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I took the screw of of mine too to prevent slippage. You can believe what ever you want.
 
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Wes

Hall of Fame
Irvin said:
I took the screw out of mine to prevent slippage. You can believe what ever you want.
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Exactly. If the screw is all the way in (or removed) it can't limit the travel of the plates.
You're only making my case for me.
 
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struggle

Legend
Irvin said:
I took the screw of of mine too to prevent slippage. You can believe what ever you want.
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What type of slippage did you experience? In ten years with a 2086 I've had none.
(Yes, I have a diablo, before you go down that path...)

Why did you remove the screw instead of storing it in place, at min/max (take your pick before you
go down another rabbit hole) adjustment? No reason to remove the screw. I'm curious. TIA
 
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Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
Wes, I have a Gen 1 model. I have an external screw that you can adjust by hand. Like you mentioned with Dags, the plates on mine protrude about 1 cm past the body of the gripper. With the external screw, you can see exactly where the limitation of the plate closure occurs. I also have a Gen 2, which doesn't have the external screw (has the hidden screw). I really like the external one better, and that's the one I had a Diablo added to, and the one that had a quieter motor put in when in needed it.
 
Irvin

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
struggle said:
What type of slippage did you experience? In ten years with a 2086 I've had none.
(Yes, I have a diablo, before you go down that path...)

Why did you remove the screw instead of storing it in place, at min/max (take your pick before you
go down another rabbit hole) adjustment? No reason to remove the screw. I'm curious. TIA
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Like the OP I had one of the earlier Wise machine before they ever had diablo. When you put the string in the gripper if it slips through the gripper plates. I don’t know what type of slippage that is I just call it slipping. Mostly happened with thin 18 gauge strings like TIMO, Prince SG 18, OG Micro 18, and 18 gauge Kevlar.

At first I just backed the screw out but the spring didn’t have enough tension to hold it and the screw and spring fell on the floor. So I picked it up and stored it in a drawer Until I sold the Wise.
 
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Rabbit

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
struggle said:
What type of slippage did you experience? In ten years with a 2086 I've had none.
(Yes, I have a diablo, before you go down that path...)

Why did you remove the screw instead of storing it in place, at min/max (take your pick before you
go down another rabbit hole) adjustment? No reason to remove the screw. I'm curious. TIA
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Don't bring me into this!

@Steve Huff - my first Wise was on the whiny side. I bought the new, improved version and it was much more quiet.
 
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Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
Mine was more quiet after they replaced the motor, but it definitely isn't the whisper that I've seen with some high end Prince, Wilson and Babolat models. On my 1st gen, re: the screw, you turned it clockwise and it would limit the plates from closing as tight. Counterclockwise allowed the plates to move closer together.
 
Irvin

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Steve Huff said:
Mine was more quiet after they replaced the motor, but it definitely isn't the whisper that I've seen with some high end Prince, Wilson and Babolat models. On my 1st gen, re: the screw, you turned it clockwise and it would limit the plates from closing as tight. Counterclockwise allowed the plates to move closer together.
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exactly how mine worked until I removed it for max closure
 
ryushen21

ryushen21

Legend
I tried adjusting my gripper plates every which way. No matter what, I still get impression marks on the string with any of the shaped polys that I use. I don't know if that's a defect on my machine or what, but I've about given up on it.
 
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snoflewis

Legend
ryushen21 said:
I tried adjusting my gripper plates every which way. No matter what, I still get impression marks on the string with any of the shaped polys that I use. I don't know if that's a defect on my machine or what, but I've about given up on it.
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sounds like a defect. i had my series 14 until a couple weeks ago, and i've never had that issue.
 
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