Wise 2086 Review

[Lakers4Life]

Thanks to you both for this. If I order (in the UK), I'll check with the distributor that they have the latest version with the relocated button. I can always add the foot peddle later if needed.

The foot pedal is not proprietary to the Wise 2086. It's just a simple switch with a 1/8" jack. There are much less expensive foot switches availble that will work fine.

I had that problem until I started the string under up then around the Diablo, the pull doesn't work to loosen it that way.

That would actually tighten if you were to reverse the loop. Also it increases the angle coming out of the grommet, thus more friction.

 

[Tennusdude]

Wise 2086 Problem and question

Anyone have problems with the Wise breaking stringing during tensioning?
I had one hooked up to a Prince Neos, I am wondering if the clamps were the culprit although the string would break near the frame sometimes. Also I wonder if anyone knows how the non electronic function of the Wise compares to regular lock out tension. In other words do you lose similar amount of tension
thanks for any input.

 

[Irvin]

Anyone have problems with the Wise breaking stringing during tensioning? ...

Not me

... Also I wonder if anyone knows how the non electronic function of the Wise compares to regular lock out tension. In other words do you lose similar amount of tension
thanks for any input.

What is the non electronic? I assume you were talking about the Wise lockout mode. I've never compared the Wise LO to the a regular LO.

 

[Rabbit]

Not me


What is the non electronic? I assume you were talking about the Wise lockout mode. I've never compared the Wise LO to the a regular LO.

I have. When I first got my Wise, I was concerned about tension differences. My concern was based on what I had read on the boards about constant pull versus lockout and how it was 10% different.

What I did was pull 54 pounds tension on a string in lockout mode and watch the tension number for about 3-4 seconds. At that point, I noted how much it had dropped. The 3-4 seconds was what I allowed myself to move a clamp. I then noted that tension and strung using constant pull mode.

Since then, I have disregarded doing that. There is not a 10% difference between lock out and constant pull, or at least not one that is significant enough to make a difference in stringing. I string at 58 in CP mode and don't look back.

This reinforced with me the only really really bad thing about these boards. There is a great propensity to over think every aspect of tennis from how much a set of string weighs and will it affect balance, if I string tighter will it make my frame more headlight, is my dampener aerodynamic enough, are 18X20 patterned racquets as easy to swing as 16X19, and do I need to put lead tape over scrapes on my racquet head to account for lost graphite.

It's like Johnny Unitas told a Charger toward the end of his career "Just catch the damn ball and score so we can all go home."

 

[Irvin]

I thought Tennusdude was talking about non-electronic (Wise LO) as compared to a crank LO. I have never compared them but I would think as long as the Wise timing to LO is the same as the crank they would be close although the Wise would be more consistent.

 

[Tennusdude]

I thought Tennusdude was talking about non-electronic (Wise LO) as compared to a crank LO. I have never compared them but I would think as long as the Wise timing to LO is the same as the crank they would be close although the Wise would be more consistent.

Sorry, I was in a hurry and now realize that it doesnt make sense to say non electronic when referring to a wise 2086. I meant to say when the constant pull mode is turned off.

 

[barry]

I have. When I first got my Wise, I was concerned about tension differences. My concern was based on what I had read on the boards about constant pull versus lockout and how it was 10% different.

What I did was pull 54 pounds tension on a string in lockout mode and watch the tension number for about 3-4 seconds. At that point, I noted how much it had dropped. The 3-4 seconds was what I allowed myself to move a clamp. I then noted that tension and strung using constant pull mode.

Since then, I have disregarded doing that. There is not a 10% difference between lock out and constant pull, or at least not one that is significant enough to make a difference in stringing. I string at 58 in CP mode and don't look back.

This reinforced with me the only really really bad thing about these boards. There is a great propensity to over think every aspect of tennis from how much a set of string weighs and will it affect balance, if I string tighter will it make my frame more headlight, is my dampener aerodynamic enough, are 18X20 patterned racquets as easy to swing as 16X19, and do I need to put lead tape over scrapes on my racquet head to account for lost graphite.

It's like Johnny Unitas told a Charger toward the end of his career "Just catch the damn ball and score so we can all go home."

I had a similar experience using my tension tester and wondered if constant pull is all hype. In lockout mode I pull a test string at 50 pounds, meter stayed on 50 pounds. In constant pull the meter went about 50 pounds then settled on 50 pounds. Also like a pre-stretch.

I think some sales person came up with Constant pull as a marketing idea. I still string with constant pull on, but the main benefit of the Wise for me is consistency.

 

[Rabbit]

I had a similar experience using my tension tester and wondered if constant pull is all hype. In lockout mode I pull a test string at 50 pounds, meter stayed on 50 pounds. In constant pull the meter went about 50 pounds then settled on 50 pounds. Also like a pre-stretch.

I think some sales person came up with Constant pull as a marketing idea. I still string with constant pull on, but the main benefit of the Wise for me is consistency.

On my Wise, when I put it in lockout mode, the tension number on the Wise gauge, the LED readout, did change. It went down. After an initial loss, it slowed down, but like I said, it wasn't 10%.

The CP does keep it steady +/-.5 lbs(roughly).

You know, I thought at first the CP produced a more consistent string bed than the Prince lock out that came, but that could have been all in my head. All I know is that given a choice between an electronic tension head and ANY other kind, I'll take an electronic any day of the week.

 

[Vlad_C]

I had a similar experience using my tension tester and wondered if constant pull is all hype. In lockout mode I pull a test string at 50 pounds, meter stayed on 50 pounds. In constant pull the meter went about 50 pounds then settled on 50 pounds. Also like a pre-stretch.

I think some sales person came up with Constant pull as a marketing idea. I still string with constant pull on, but the main benefit of the Wise for me is consistency.

What string did you use for your test?
Initially, some strings will stretch more (multis), other will not stretch much (poly).
I did the same test with a soft multi, and I found that there is an immediate tension drop in lockout mode, due to the string starting to stretch right away.

 

[barry]

What string did you use for your test?
Initially, some strings will stretch more (multis), other will not stretch much (poly).
I did the same test with a soft multi, and I found that there is an immediate tension drop in lockout mode, due to the string starting to stretch right away.

What percent did you lose? My test was done with poly and an accurate string meter. I am like Rabbit, Electronic is the only way to go. Much easier to string, and the results are consistent.

 

[Rabbit]

What percent did you lose? My test was done with poly and an accurate string meter. I am like Rabbit, Electronic is the only way to go. Much easier to string, and the results are consistent.

And....you can string a bunch more without as much fatigue. It's just a miracle of modern science! I string for the occasional satellite or junior event and they go through string galore. I find using an electronic is just easier on you.