Wise 2086 v14 vs Gamma Rotational (X-ELS) vs others (loudness)

jalapeno74

Rookie
Hey everybody,

I currently string on a Stringmaster Pro 50 drop weight machine

but my stringing is way more than expected.
Reason A) I simply restring more often and experiment with different setups and
Reason B) my friends and team colleagues wanted me string for them and
Reason C) my kids also started playing tennis

So, my volume this year will be around 200 string jobs and that is becoming a little tiring with the drop weight. AND I don't expect this volume to go down over the next years, rather increase a little bit

The machine itself is fine, I don't really miss anything. That is why I am thinking about upgrading it with a WISE V14.

BUT.. I heard/read that the WISE motor can be quite noisy (not the beep but the motor itself) and I really don't like noisy stuff.
And that is why I would consider switching to another machine if the operations are smoother and the noise will be significantly less.
There are a couple of machines I would consider buying, like the Gamma X-ELS or a used pro machine

So my question to all (former) owners of the V14 or Gamma - are there big differences in the loudness/noise of those two machines?

(I don't want to start a linear vs rotational discussion, in my opinion I could live perfectly with either one)
 
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LOBALOT

Legend
Several buddies have them and I have watched them string on the Wise. I do not find them noisy. More like a motor whirring sound.

I string on an Alpha Ghost 2 and I wouldn't say one is any more quiet than the other and I certainly wouldn't pick a machine simply by the sound they make (or don't make).
 

jalapeno74

Rookie
Well, not be understood wrong here - I won't pick a machine simply by the sound it makes.
But the noise level is part of the equation for me

And since my volume is much higher than I anticipated I thought it might be a good opportunity to re-evaluate my machine choice (if necessary)
 
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Wes

Hall of Fame
Well, not be understood wrong here - I won't pick a machine simply by the sound it makes.
But the noise level is part of the equation for me

BUT.. I heard/read that the WISE motor can be quite noisy (not the beep but the motor itself) and I really don't like noisy stuff.
And that is why I would consider switching to another machine if the operations are smoother and the noise will be significantly less.
There are a couple of machines I would consider buying, like the Gamma X-ELS or a used pro machine

So my question to all (former) owners of the V14 or Gamma - are there big differences in the loudness/noise of those two machines?

(I don't want to start a linear vs rotational discussion, in my opinion I could live perfectly with either one)

@jalapeno74,

First, I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Wise is "loud", but what is "loud" (or not) to one person is going to be different for another person.
So, it's really best for you to decide if the sound from the Wise's motor is too much for you, or not.

I've recorded the sound of the Wise (with beep, and without), as well as a Gamma ELS (with beep, and without) in an effort for you to listen for yourself.

Worth noting: the recordings took place in two very different rooms (acoustically).
The Wise 2086 was in a much smaller room which has a substantial "echo", as well as a tile floor.
This lends to everything in that room (including my voice) sounding a bit louder than would be typical.
The Gamma ELS is in a much larger room with carpet & many other things in there which tend to dampen/reduce the audio picked up by the camera's microphone.


 

McLovin

Legend
@jalapeno74,

First, I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Wise is "loud", but what is "loud" (or not) to one person is going to be different for another person.
So, it's really best for you to decide if the sound from the Wise's motor is too much for you, or not.

I've recorded the sound of the Wise (with beep, and without), as well as a Gamma ELS (with beep, and without) in an effort for you to listen for yourself.

Worth noting: the recordings took place in two very different rooms (acoustically).
The Wise 2086 was in a much smaller room which has a substantial "echo", as well as a tile floor.
This lends to everything in that room (including my voice) sounding a bit louder than would be typical.
The Gamma ELS is in a much larger room with carpet & many other things in there which tend to dampen/reduce the audio picked up by the camera's microphone.


EDIT: See my amendment in post 17 below. Don't want to give misleading information...
 
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loosegroove

Hall of Fame
I absolutely hate loud things and the V12 Wise does not bother my aural sensitivity. Though I do turn off the "beep" which is a bit much for me. Considering that the V14 is reported to be notably quieter, I doubt many people would find it too loud.
 

Red001

New User
I have GAMMA X-6FC with WISE since 2012 - my setting is with a beep and constant pull on 'slow speed' - no complains whatsoever. I can only compare with GAMMA 7900 ELS I used for couple months and the last what comes to mind is sound ... .
 

jalapeno74

Rookie
Thank you all for your input. @Wes especially for making that effort. Kudos (y)

This has been very helpful already.

One thing that I know for sure, is that I will turn off the beep on either one... in my opinion the Gamma is significantly calmer (I guess "quiet" is not the right word) but the WISE is far from annoying, just like @loosegroove was stating. Considering the price difference on those two options and my usage, the Wise should be just fine
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
If you use a slow speed and turn off the beep you could easily get into the habit of releasing the clamps of base too quickly and end up with inconsistent string jobs.
 

Wes

Hall of Fame
The only thing I'll add to this is, if you have 'constant pull' selected, you will hear the sound of the motor pretty much constantly as it's always trying to adjust for the relaxing of the string. I have no idea if other machines do the same thing as my Wise is my first (and only) electronic machine (and I've had it for almost 9 years now).

What???
Fake news.

The Wise makes very little noise while maintaining tension/making micro adjustments in constant-pull mode.

Watch from 11:00 to 12:30 below.

It's maintaining #55 of tension on that synthetic gut string, continuously, for nearly a full minute (11:22 until 12:12).
You can barely hear anything during those 50 seconds.

The same can also be verified, with that poly string, from 15:39 until 15:56

 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Hey everybody,

I currently string on a Stringmaster Pro 50 drop weight machine

but my stringing is way more than expected.
Reason A) I simply restring more often and experiment with different setups and
Reason B) my friends and team colleagues wanted me string for them and
Reason C) my kids also started playing tennis

So, my volume this year will be around 200 string jobs and that is becoming a little tiring with the drop weight. AND I don't expect this volume to go down over the next years, rather increase a little bit

The machine itself is fine, I don't really miss anything. That is why I am thinking about upgrading it with a WISE V14.

BUT.. I heard/read that the WISE motor can be quite noisy (not the beep but the motor itself) and I really don't like noisy stuff.
And that is why I would consider switching to another machine if the operations are smoother and the noise will be significantly less.
There are a couple of machines I would consider buying, like the Gamma X-ELS or a used pro machine

So my question to all (former) owners of the V14 or Gamma - are there big differences in the loudness/noise of those two machines?

(I don't want to start a linear vs rotational discussion, in my opinion I could live perfectly with either one)
If you’re stringing over 200 racquets a year, I recommend you get a good electronic constant pull machine such as a Wilson Baiardo, TF ergo one, Yonex, etc. You will appreciate the superior quality of these machines over a Wise setup. I replaced my gamma 6004 + wise with a Babolat Sensor and the difference in build quality was very noticeable. The Sensor is also a joy to use compared to my gamma+wise setup. It is also a lot quieter than my wise. That’s my 2 cents.
 
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mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
@jalapeno74,

This should give you a more accurate representation of the sounds.
Right next to one another, in the same room this time...

Your wise is a little quieter than the one I had but it still sounds like a wise and I just find the noise it makes to be annoying. Your gamma els sounds so much smoother and more refined.
 

McLovin

Legend
What???
Fake news.

The Wise makes very little noise while maintaining tension/making micro adjustments in constant-pull mode.
To be clear I didn't say it made a lot of noise, just that with constant pull you will hear that noise while the head adjusts. You say the exact same thing in your video at 11:52.

Also, the noise mine makes is a little more than yours. Don't know if that's the "version" of my Wise (bought it in 2012, so whatever that version is), the type of string I use that stretches/relaxes more, or something else.

And again...to me the noise is minimal and doesn't bother me. I'm more interested in the quality, consistency, and reliability of the machine, and after almost 9 years, I'm extremely happy with my purchase. If it dies tomorrow I wouldn't hesitate to replace it with another.
 

jalapeno74

Rookie
If you’re stringing over 200 racquets a year, I recommend you get a good electronic constant pull machine such as a Wilson Baiardo, TF ergo one, Yonex, etc. You will appreciate the superior quality of these machines over a Wise setup. I replaced my gamma 6004 + wise with a Babolat Sensor and the difference in build quality was very noticeable. The Sensor is also a joy to use compared to my gamma+wise setup. It is also a lot quieter than my wise. That’s my 2 cents.

Well, that is not a bad idea but here in Europe we don't have so many options unless you go all in with 5k + .
The Alpha Ghost 2 for example is not available nor the Tourna machine.

That leaves WISE combinations, Gamma and the Baiardo L.

But for roughly 200 raquets per year (and 60-70% my own/ from my kids) that is quite an investment
 

dachness

New User
I have the most recent Wise and don't consider it loud or disruptive. I some times string late at night and don't have any concerns for neighbors or family sleeping in the next room.
 

McLovin

Legend
The Wise makes very little noise while maintaining tension/making micro adjustments in constant-pull mode.
@Wes...I'd like to amend my previous statement: The adjustment noises are much less than I thought. I did a gut/poly last night and paid close attention to how much noise it made, and it was a slight tick every 2-3 seconds...barely noticeable when I had the TV on.

I do believe it is a bit more when I do a multi (and I'm not using the pre-stretch option), but maybe a slight tick every second or so.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
@jalapeno74 @Wes

I can vouch for what @Wes is saying. I owned two models of the Wise, the later model was much quieter than the earlier. I now own a Babolat Mighty Sensor. It is much quieter than either. I agree that the "loud" factor is very subjective.
 
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