Wise 2086 - wise investment?

[tomp]

Hi,

I am currently using a Pro's Pro Pilot machine (crank) and when I am stringing at different tensions it just doesn't seem accurate enough.

So I was thinking about getting a wise 2086 for this machine and just had a few questions.

1) Does it work on my machine and do you think it is a worth wile upgrade?
2) Do you think this is a good investment when I am stringing about 5-10 rackets a month, looking to bump that up to about 20-30 during the summer months.

Rgds

 

[smucker007]

Wise is a great attachment to any crank machine...but if I were in your shoes, I'd string some more racquets, save up and purchase a really good stringing machine.

 

[tomp]

What would you say a good next step to aim for is, bearing in mind that I am in the UK.

 

[Irvin]

Why doesn't you crank seem accurate enough to you? Have you made test to see how accurate it is at different tensions or is that just a feeling you have? There is really nothing wrong with a good crank.

Irvin

 

[tomp]

I have measured it and you can never get exactly the right tension and it just doesn't seem consistent or accurate enough for me. Also the fact it is a lockout means that the tension can vary even more dependent on the string type and it is hard to get consistant tensions.

 

[Irvin]

I have measured it and you can never get exactly the right tension and it just doesn't seem consistent or accurate enough for me. Also the fact it is a lockout means that the tension can vary even more dependent on the string type and it is hard to get consistant tensions.

The tension will not vary dependent on the string type. The stretch will vary and I gues you could say that means you have a different tension. Each pull will be to the same amount and then the string starts to stretch. Same thing that happens when you pull with a constant pull machine. When you clamp on the string the string continues to stretch and you get tension loss. I feel that if you up the tension to what feels good to you and your technique is good you can do as good a job with a lockout.

Irvin

 

[Rabbit]

^^^^
I agree. I bought a Wise and like it very much but the amount of variance with a lockout really is not worth worrying about. Lockouts produce very consistent string jobs, are fast, and easy to use.

Remember, tension on any machine is just a number. You find whatever number suits you and then your machine is accurate. Even the pros adjust their number when they go to a new venue if they don't have someone like P1 stringing for them.

 

[Centryx]

i just bought a wise coming from a crank and I am never going back! i strung gut last nite and never had an easier time with it than with the wise

 

[tomp]

Hmmm, think you are probably right there. I suppose I have a bit of OCD when it comes to having things really accurate and consistent when stringing, especially for clients. I will most likely save up and get a decent stringer first as recommended.

Any suggestions for machines to start putting my pennies towards

 

[Lakers4Life]

Having a bit of OCD is not a bad thing. ;-)

The Pro's Pro Pilot is a pretty good machine. I think adding a Wise for the short term is a good investment. You will have to request the Pro's Pro bracket from Watdon, if you do buy it. I was told the tension rail on the Pro's Pro are slightly thicker than most crank machines. So keep that in mind if you go with the Wise 2086 Pro, in the mean time.

Ash Smith likes his Tyger StringUltra-800, which is the same as a FST-950, but both are in the £2225 range.

 

[smucker007]

I personally like a good linear electronic..Babolat Star 5, Prince 4000,5000, Wilson Baiardo, the TF and Yonex are good too! Really depends on how much you want to spend. I would get the best one you can afford. I got the Baiardo and am very happy with it!

 

[tomp]

They all look pretty amazing! I should think the Baiardo is good, you can buy a alright car for that price

I am only a student, so I think it might be a while before I can buy anything near that good! Thanks for the advice anyhow, I will keep my eyes peeled for any bargains I can find.

 

[Lakers4Life]

Realistically, not everyone is in the same financial position as Smucker. Nor can justify buying a machine the price of a used car.

Eventually you may want a high end "professional" machine, but ideally you want something consistant. I think adding the Wise is a good investment for you short term goals. Then when you start doing 100 rackets a month you can justify buying a Baiardo, Sensor, Star 5, etc.

 

[smucker007]

Gotta have some long term goals to shoot for! What Laker said is right on the spot!

 

[Lakers4Life]

I don't think I'd buy a New Baiardo, but if a used one came up for the right price, I'd probably jump at it.

 

[tomp]

If anything the amount of racket I do will decrease over the next few years to exams but excluding from about June to September which is when I really want to shift some frames. Thinking about it, the Wise is something I can keep with me and move to other machines if I was to buy a better one and should last me quite a while. It is something I am defiantly more interested in now and I will hunt around for prices and keep you posted on what I choose in the end.

Thanks for the advice once again.

 

[dodgers]

I adapted a Wise to my Stringway machine, and have had no problems at all. Able to string a bit quicker and easier that was the main reason for the purchase. I will get a so called Pro machine in the future when needed.

 

[Clintspin]

I would like to see a picture of your Stringway with the Wise 2086. Can you post any?

 

[pstar]

I would like to see a picture of your Stringway with the Wise 2086. Can you post any?

+1
have been thinking about doing the same thing myself, since I can`t afford a pro machine in the nearest future

 

[Shaochieh]

Hi,

I am currently using a Pro's Pro Pilot machine (crank) and when I am stringing at different tensions it just doesn't seem accurate enough.

So I was thinking about getting a wise 2086 for this machine and just had a few questions.

1) Does it work on my machine and do you think it is a worth wile upgrade?
2) Do you think this is a good investment when I am stringing about 5-10 rackets a month, looking to bump that up to about 20-30 during the summer months.

Rgds

Are you having any issue with your string gripper rough or sanding up your strings?

 

[tomp]

Are you having any issue with your string gripper rough or sanding up your strings?

I haven't had it sanding up strings but I have noticed that the gripper does leave quite a noticeable imprint on the strings, not sure if this is normal?

 

[lefty10spro]

The gripper on this thing marks up strings horribly - even with the diablo reducing the pressure. Use a folded business card to end this design flaw problem.

 

[000KFACTOR90000]

I haven't had it sanding up strings but I have noticed that the gripper does leave quite a noticeable imprint on the strings, not sure if this is normal?

Might need some adjustment because mine is fine and I string up gut and poly with no imprint (latest model wise)

ps. I used to use the diablo but took it off and no problems either way.

 

[000KFACTOR90000]

Also I live in a humid climate so when I'm finished stringing I take the wise off the crank and put it in a sealed box with my gut and a huge silica gel canister.

I figure it's a good advantage over more expensive electronic machines.

 

[maa2003]

Earlier this year, Wise2086 was the Official Stringing Machine at Hongkong Tennis Classic 2011 with their China distributor (AEF) ...

I like their hat :

 

[Steve Huff]

What machines are those that the Wise is on?

 

[Lakers4Life]

Looks like the table is from an Alpha Equinox. There is blue model called COCOLA II from AEF.

 

[Steve Huff]

I have 2 Wise tension heads. One is the original model which I would use as a backup should I have to send my newer one back for any repairs. My 2nd one is the 2nd generation. It has around 3500 stringjobs on it I'd guess. It's working great so far.

 

[tomp]

I have 2 Wise tension heads. One is the original model which I would use as a backup should I have to send my newer one back for any repairs. My 2nd one is the 2nd generation. It has around 3500 stringjobs on it I'd guess. It's working great so far.

wow that is an impressive number of rackets! I am really interested in getting one but I am just not sure it would really be worth putting it on my current stringer? What machine are you using the wise on?

Thanks for the photos maa2003, would much prefer one of those machines!

 

[Tennisman.de]

What machines are those that the Wise is on?

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