With full natural gut, is it better to use one one-piece or two-piece string job?

Doulers

New User
just wondering, because what experiences people have had doing gut as a one piece or two piece. i know that there are certain racquets that call for one piece, but can still be done with a two-piece. when stringing gut, does one way work better, hold tension better, or anything else?
 

jim e

Legend
I always string gut as 2 piece, as there is less handeling of string.
Also keep in mind, as no matter what racquet that you are using, even though it may be okay for your racquet to be strung bottom up with the pattern of your racquet, the crosses, I always string gut 2 pieces and the crosses from top to bottom, as most of the hitting is at the center to top, and you want that gut to be the best condition at the top, as the gut gets handeled more as you work crosses down to bottom, so the last few crosses on the bottom are handeled the most rather than on the top, if you follow that.
Also if you tie a good knot and up the tension of the tie offs a percent, there should be no difference in tension maintaince between a 1 or 2 piece.The only difference is the additional tie offs between a 2 piece and 1 piece, and if the tie offs are not handeled properly, then I can see the tie off strings being looser and eventually effecting the long term tension maintance of the stringbed, but if handeled properly there is no difference.
Also with all nat. gut , that string holds its tension better than any other string on the market!
 
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Il Mostro

Banned
+1 on 2-piece. Due to the fragile nature of gut, the prospect of stepping on it, or making kinks in some other, way gives me *the fear*. Much less wrestling with 2-piece. :)
 

star 5 15

Professional
One piece if the racquet is made to be one piece and ATW if it is sposed to be two pieced. I string 5-7 sets of gut a week and this always works for me. I've been stringing it for 6 or 7 years and only had it break once when I was tieing off.
 

Nellie

Hall of Fame
I also always do 2-piece with gut so that I do not have to work with an approximately 30 foot piece when stringing one side of the mains. This would inevitable lead me to kink, bend, scratch, or otherwise overwork the string.
 

Doulers

New User
what is your racquet?

I'll be stringing gut on all of the following at some point in time as I use all of these racquets from time to time:

(1) Wilson nSix-One 95 16x18;
(2) Wilson KSix-One 95 18x20; and
(3) Head MG Prestige Mid (18x20).

Thanks.
 

chrisplchs

Professional
honestly, if you don't know what you are doing, then string everything two piece. less chance for human error. If I ever did use full gut on my sticks, I wouldn't do the UKRSA ATW. weaving mains is an absolute nightmare and with gut, it makes it even worse.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
+1 on 2-piece. Due to the fragile nature of gut, the prospect of stepping on it, or making kinks in some other, way gives me *the fear*. Much less wrestling with 2-piece. :)

The more you handle it the easier it becomes, and you learn how to string it.

One piece if the racquet is made to be one piece and ATW if it is sposed to be two pieced. I string 5-7 sets of gut a week and this always works for me. I've been stringing it for 6 or 7 years and only had it break once when I was tieing off.

Same here. I'll string everything piece inc gut ATW. As above, if you know how to handle it, it's not a problem.

honestly, if you don't know what you are doing, then string everything two piece. less chance for human error. If I ever did use full gut on my sticks, I wouldn't do the UKRSA ATW. weaving mains is an absolute nightmare and with gut, it makes it even worse.

Agree with that.

Regards

Paul
 

precision2b

Semi-Pro
I prefer to string 2 piece for gut for reasons already stated (wear and kinking of the string. I also like to wax the mains with parafin wax to reduce the friction when pulling the cross strings. I also put a drop of crazy glue on the knots for insurance…
 

davidahenry

Professional
I'll string everything piece inc gut ATW. As above, if you know how to handle it, it's not a problem.

Hey Paul. Why everything one piece on non-hybrid jobs? I know you have some Tour level stringing experience, so your input is greatly appreciated.

I know the **** guys / Wilson Team use some sort of special ATW pattern as well. So... I am just curious as to why some of the best stringers in the world use one piece on most (if not all) non-hybrid jobs.

Thanks.

DH
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
Hey Paul. Why everything one piece on non-hybrid jobs? I know you have some Tour level stringing experience, so your input is greatly appreciated.

I know the **** guys / Wilson Team use some sort of special ATW pattern as well. So... I am just curious as to why some of the best stringers in the world use one piece on most (if not all) non-hybrid jobs.

Thanks.

DH

Bump.

uk_skippy - Your thoughts on my questions above?

Thanks.

DH

Hi David

sorry not replied earlier only I've just got back from holiday.

To be honest, and speaking personally, I find it quicker and easier to use 1 piece over 2. When one cuts the string from a reel you get used to how much you'll really need to string a rqt. You also get used to dealing with a longer piece of string, and once you've finished the mains you'd still only have the same/similar amount of string to do the crosses.

1 piece is also more flexible. It allows a stringer to use the short side to string a couple of crosses so that the outer mains maintain tension better. When you string 2 piece the outer main(s) aren't really capable of this. Also if you're stringing with 1 piece and you make an error somewhere you may be able to save the stringjob even if that entails turning the 1 piece into a 2 piece during the stringing process. If, for arguments sake you string the mains on 1 side incorrectly while stringing 2 piece, and you only notice it part of the way down the crosses you really going to have to start again. You'd have a better chance of salvaging the stringjob with a 1 piece.

I think that stringers who don't use 1 piece do so because they can't handle it. They think they'll get caught up in it, or that it will get caught on the machine. If you know how to handle it then its not a problem.

Hope this helps

Regards

Paul
 

davidahenry

Professional
Hi David

sorry not replied earlier only I've just got back from holiday.

To be honest, and speaking personally, I find it quicker and easier to use 1 piece over 2. When one cuts the string from a reel you get used to how much you'll really need to string a rqt. You also get used to dealing with a longer piece of string, and once you've finished the mains you'd still only have the same/similar amount of string to do the crosses.

1 piece is also more flexible. It allows a stringer to use the short side to string a couple of crosses so that the outer mains maintain tension better. When you string 2 piece the outer main(s) aren't really capable of this. Also if you're stringing with 1 piece and you make an error somewhere you may be able to save the stringjob even if that entails turning the 1 piece into a 2 piece during the stringing process. If, for arguments sake you string the mains on 1 side incorrectly while stringing 2 piece, and you only notice it part of the way down the crosses you really going to have to start again. You'd have a better chance of salvaging the stringjob with a 1 piece.

I think that stringers who don't use 1 piece do so because they can't handle it. They think they'll get caught up in it, or that it will get caught on the machine. If you know how to handle it then its not a problem.

Hope this helps

Regards

Paul

Thanks Paul. That does help, and I appreciate your input.

Take care.

DH
 
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