With shots like these why hasn't Shapovalov become a threat

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I'd say he's at least a minor "threat" - he could go off and string shots together longer than usual and maybe cause an upset. But, he's not getting the BIG results because of consistency and at times shot selection. Just one in a LONG line of "big shot" players who had similar problems.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
gotta say that shaps has a higher peak than djoker in this respect
diamond age gonna take over any minute now @Meles
absolutely, he really goes for it spectacularly, but it's more hit and miss.

Novak takes some power off, but what he really hurts you with is his unbelievable accuracy. 10 times out of 10 he would have found that line judge's throat, even if he was hitting the ball from a full split in the third row of the stands. He's just that good.
 
absolutely, he really goes for it spectacularly, but it's more hit and miss.

Novak takes some power off, but what he really hurts you with is his unbelievable accuracy. 10 times out of 10 he would have found that line judge's throat, even if he was hitting the ball from a full split in the third row of the stands. He's just that good.
yeah, this
on account of having a single handed backhand we must infer that shapo is the more talented one, but Novak's consistency is a sight to behold.
Shaps has a long way to go to achieve that blend of precision and power
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
In all seriousness, the shot in the OP actually illustrates why Shapo isn't more of a consistent threat yet.

It's a super high risk shot, so close to the line, could just as well have sailed a foot long.

He ended up losing the match. I'd say he ultimately had more spectacular shots than Rublev in the match. But Rublev's offense was more consistent, repeatable, smarter, and he made less stupid wild errors while going for the highlight reel money shot.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
or if you want it in more poetic terms, there's also this

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Luke Shapovalov The Foolish? I thought not. It's not a story Hitman would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Luke Shapovalov was a Ballbasher of the ATP, so powerful yet so foolish he could use his groundstrokes to influence the midichlorians to create unforced errors… He had such a knowledge of unforced errors that he could even keep the shots he cared about from landing in. The knowledge of unforced errors is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing a match, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his opponent all his weaknesses, then his opponent defeated him in the third set. Ironic. He could save others from losing matches, but not himself.
 

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
It's not JUST that he lacks consistency; it's that even his 'highlight' shots are weaksauce with no power/spin on them. He's not physically strong enough to hit big.

So, in summary, he is a pusher that also lacks consistency (which is the thing that all pushers should have in abundance).
 

Third Serve

Legend
It's not JUST that he lacks consistency; it's that even his 'highlight' shots are weaksauce with no power/spin on them. He's not physically strong enough to hit big.

So, in summary, he is a pusher that also lacks consistency (which is the thing that all pushers should have in abundance).
Never heard that one before.
 

Rubens

Hall of Fame
He's a shotmaker, like Almagro, Verdasco, Monfils, Janowicz. It takes more than that to be an ATG.
 

socallefty

Professional
He’s the ATP version of an erratic ball-basher and he loses to players who are more consistent than him late in sets. When a ball-basher gets consistent (see Wawrinka), watch out. Usually, this happens more on a slower surface than fast surfaces as the ball-bashers need more time to take their big windups.
 

bwongman

Rookie
Double faulting 4 times in 1 service game doesn't help anything.

Like everyone else has said, he needs better consistency and shot selection. He can do this by having a little more patience and building the points more. He also needs to seriously improve his first and second serve (which is the same issue that FAA has). Way too many double faults gifted to the opponent, especially on the big points. He also goes too often for the big lefty serve out wide.

Thiem had similar issues several years ago, but now he is starting to put it all together. I believe he can be a contender if his coach can fix these problems.
 

Zoid

Professional
UPSIDES: Big power off both wings, pretty athletic, never gives up

DOWNSIDES: No intangibles or ability to change pace/slice the backhand/play smart defence, doesn't use his leftyness enough, doesn't chip enough returns and blunt the pace.

EQUALS: A threatening player who on his day can beat anyone, but his day may happen to occur in the first round of a 250 rather than big matches in his career. Needs to develop a better chip return, defensive slice, and overall ability to absorb pace from others and neutralise their best shots like Fed. Players he should be watching on return: Fed (chips/blocks a lot and gets in most return points) Wawrinka: ditto, Novak: Deep middle with a lot of returns.

I've written about why all these young guys don't live up to the hype before: https://www.bandytennis.com/post/what-the-f-ck-happened-to-the-nextgen
 
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