Women's-2009 US Open

Who will win the Women's 2009 US Open?

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Zvonareva had 40, Pennetta 37 UEs.

But Pennetta had 30 winners, Vera 19.
 
Benefactor said:
This had as much to do with Chernobyl part II by Zvonareva as it did with anything Pennetta did.
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No. Pennetta *won* the points when she was down. I'm so tired of people not giving credit where it is due. Yes, Vera came apart, but it doesn't take away from the great play of Pennetta.
 
Wow, I think I just heard Zvonareva say "I hate this country" as she was walking out of the stadium while the fans were applauding her performance.
 
Congrats to Flavia for her win. It was probably just as hard for her to watch Vera coming apart emotionally on the other side of the net.
 
Topaz said:
No. Pennetta *won* the points when she was down. I'm so tired of people not giving credit where it is due. Yes, Vera came apart, but it doesn't take away from the great play of Pennetta.
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Yes, indeed. Pennetta won that second set. Squarely. She saved the MPs more than Zvonareva lost them.
 
Topaz said:
No. Pennetta *won* the points when she was down. I'm so tired of people not giving credit where it is due. Yes, Vera came apart, but it doesn't take away from the great play of Pennetta.
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I agree,people here consider everything to be choke.As I said Zvonareva didn't lose those MPs,Penneta took them away with clutch agressive play each time which was amazing to see IMO.I haven't seen such clutch play for quite a while on both tours(maybe Nadal against Nalbo in IW and Novak in Madrid).

If Zvonareva made DBF and silly UFE on those MPs I would understand the sentiment some people display here but that wasn't the case at all,not this time.
 
Zvonareva will have a hard time sleeping for about a week after blowing 6 match points.

I heard her say something as she was walking off the court but I don't know what she said.
 
quest01 said:
I heard her say something as she was walking off the court but I don't know what she said.
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That she wasn't doing press I believe, can't imagine she wants to face a room full of journalists after Pennetta broke her mentally and gave her a bagel in the third.
 
quest01 said:
Zvonareva will have a hard time sleeping for about a week after blowing 6 match points.

I heard her say something as she was walking off the court but I don't know what she said.
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I rewinded it like 5 times and and heard her say "I hate this country" and then something else afterwards. Not trying to start anything there, but that was definitely my interpretation.
 
Power Player said:
Yeah..I thought it was something like "I hate you" to the crowd. What a nutcase.
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Yeah the crowd didn't even sound like they were doing anything to her for her to say something like that. I bet if anything, she's upset that she thinks the tape jobs were bad and they wouldn't let her get it removed before the changeover. I do think she said "I hate this country" though. I still like her...aggressive player that just got outplayed in the end.
 
HarvardQPham said:
I rewinded it like 5 times and and heard her say "I hate this country" and then something else afterwards. Not trying to start anything there, but that was definitely my interpretation.
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Yup. I rewound it several times and it sure sounded like that's what she said. She said it loud too. You can even see a couple of fans give her dirty looks after she said it.
 
FuriousYellow said:
Yup. I rewound it several times and it sure sounded like that's what she said. She said it loud too. You can even see a couple of fans give her dirty looks after she said it.
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Hahaha yeah I saw that too. I'm sure she's frustrated, but any American who interpreted that will surely be booing her in the future :)
 
I'm Happy for Flavia, she deserved the win the way she played, and the way she has been playing lately she deserves to be in the quarters here. As to whether she can challenge Serena...hard to tell. Serena is in impressive form here and seems to have put her losses in the tune-ups behind her. However, Flavia is playing a lot better than any of Serena's previous opponents have, so Serena would be crazy to not up her game a bit more against her. Their matchup will probably be the strongest of the quarters (and yes I know 2 of those haven't even been set up yet). Personally its a toss up, the way Flavia has been playing coming into the match and the Open, I think she deserves the Semi's, but Serena's slam pedigree is going to make this one close, if Flavia doesn't crumble...it will be a good match (I hope).
 
Hopefully Flavia if nothing else can soften up Serena for Clijsters to come in and finish her off. Clijsters will have an easy cakewalk past Li Na next round.
 
Topaz said:
No. Pennetta *won* the points when she was down. I'm so tired of people not giving credit where it is due. Yes, Vera came apart, but it doesn't take away from the great play of Pennetta.
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Pennetta deserved it alright. But Zvonareva should have tried for more on those 6 (six) matchpoints. She was just keeping ball in play waiting for Flavia to break down. And after seeing that Flavia was NOT going to break down, she should have taken more risks on her shots. I mean 1 out of 6 risky shots should have gone in.

And she didn't have to break down so badly in the third.
 
SerbWhoLovesDelPo said:
Pennetta deserved it alright. But Zvonareva should have tried for more on those 6 (six) matchpoints. She was just keeping ball in play waiting for Flavia to break down. And after seeing that Flavia was NOT going to break down, she should have taken more risks on her shots. I mean 1 out of 6 risky shots should have gone in.

And she didn't have to break down so badly in the third.
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Znovareva was being pretty aggressive, at least as aggressive as she was supposed to be. Pennetta hit her most aggressive shots of the entire match when she was down match points. She was just too good.

It's a very awkward situation when you're out on court. I mean, if you knew that you'd be getting five more match points, I guess it's pretty easy to just go all out on a few of them and see if you make them. But the fact is that you don't know if you're getting another match point later on, so your natural reaction is to not go for too much. By the same reasoning, one of Pennetta's amazing gets or risky shots should've gone out during one of those six match points she was defending.
 
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Pennetta match was a real treat. Some of the best WTA tennis in recent memory, especially in the end of 2nd set, it was nice to see Pennetta getting the reward for her courage. Too bad Zvonareva completely lost it afterwards though. Still, quality women's match, which happens rarely these days.
 
I turned it off after a little into the third set because I knew what was coming. Vera has displayed this self flagellation before, and it's not entertainment or anything athletic to admire. Pennetta deserved that triumph in the second set, while Vera played great. What Zvonareva apparently did is gamble and lose that Flavia would make errors. The way Vera was taped up, she probably needed to go home anyway.
 
anointedone said:
Hopefully Flavia if nothing else can soften up Serena for Clijsters to come in and finish her off. Clijsters will have an easy cakewalk past Li Na next round.
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Really? I don't think so...I see Clijsters and Na Li has being very similar players (though it will be Kimmie's FH vs. Li's BH). Both are good movers (but Kimmie is a bit better here I think). I think it has the potential to be a really tight match either way. Of course, I'd love to see Kim win! (see avatar!)
 
Although people are are christening Kim with a birth in the semi finals, Li could give her trouble, Kim leads the H2H 3-1, but Li's one win was on Hard Courts in Miami in 2007, and another match between them on Hardcourts went to 3 before Kim won. Li also won their last match...which granted was 2 years ago but still.

As for Kim vs Serena. Yes, its dumb to say Kim will flatten Serena in the Semi's, Venus was not flattened and she was injured. But it is also a little off to simply assume Serena will flatten Kim, for all anyone knows Kim will win, and then what will people should Kim make the finals instead of either Williams? Frankly, what happens, happens. Kim is back, hopefully to stay, lets just see this as a good thing instead of getting so defensive about everybody else.
 
boredone3456 said:
Although people are are christening Kim with a birth in the semi finals, Li could give her trouble, Kim leads the H2H 3-1, but Li's one win was on Hard Courts in Miami in 2007, and another match between them on Hardcourts went to 3 before Kim won. Li also won their last match...which granted was 2 years ago but still.
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Agreed...Li is going to be tough. One match at a time!
 
Topaz said:
Really? I don't think so...I see Clijsters and Na Li has being very similar players (though it will be Kimmie's FH vs. Li's BH). Both are good movers (but Kimmie is a bit better here I think). I think it has the potential to be a really tight match either way. Of course, I'd love to see Kim win! (see avatar!)
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I dont see them as similar players. Kim is a steady and very fast power baseliner. Li is a wildy erratic hit or miss power baseliner. Yes I think Kim will probably win easily since Li will spray the ball all over the court needlessly like she always does, why she even often loses to far less talented players (and much less talented ones than Kim) and is overall simply a stupid player on court despite that she has some impressive strokes.
 
Why are all the beauties are going out? Oudin is losing to Petrova and Wozniacki will probably lose to Kuznetsova. Semis will probably be Petrova/Kuznetsova-Kvitova and Kim-Serena.
 
anointedone said:
I dont see them as similar players. Kim is a steady and very fast power baseliner. Li is a wildy erratic hit or miss power baseliner. Yes I think Kim will probably win easily since Li will spray the ball all over the court needlessly like she always does, why she even often loses to far less talented players (and much less talented ones than Kim) and is overall simply a stupid player on court despite that she has some impressive strokes.
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Well, I guess I am assuming that Li is playing at her best...at which level I do think she can challenge Kim. She does spray the ball a lot, but if she is on...look out.
 
oudin with another upset...

she is definitely losing in the next round, regardless of whether it is wozniacki or kutznetsova...
 
djokster said:
oudin with another upset...

she is definitely losing in the next round, regardless of whether it is wozniacki or kutznetsova...
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Actually, Oudin would have a better chance against Wozniacki. But that would be a pusher-fest and the winner would easily lose in the SF.

Kuznetsova actually has the right set of weapons to beat Oudin. That and her mindset has been much more stable since winning the French. Besides, Wozniacki is 0-4 in RD16 slam matches.
 
Results -- Monday

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Fourth Round
Caroline Wozniacki (9) def. Svetlana Kuznetsova (6) 2-6, 7-6 (7-5), 7-6 (7-3)
Melanie Oudin def. Nadia Petrova (13) 1-6, 7-6 (7-2), 6-3
Kateryna Bondarenko def. Gisela Dulko 6-0, 6-0
Yanina Wickmayer def. Petra Kvitova 4-6, 6-4, 7-5​
 
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MEAC_ALLAMERICAN said:
Kim needs 3 tournaments to gain a WTA ranking, what is her projected rankings after the US Open from the semifinals on..

Anybody know? :-?
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She has 310 pts as of now. If she makes the SF she will gain 900 pts, putting her at 1210 and around the top 50. If she makes the final she will gain 1400 pts and have 1710 total, putting her around the top 30. And if she wins, she'll gain 2000 pts and be at 2310 pts total, putting her inside the top 20 in the 15-20 range.
 
jamesblakefan#1 said:
She has 310 pts as of now. If she makes the SF she will gain 900 pts, putting her at 1210 and around the top 50. If she makes the final she will gain 1400 pts and have 1710 total, putting her around the top 30. And if she wins, she'll gain 2000 pts and be at 2310 pts total, putting her inside the top 20 in the 15-20 range.
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So I guess it is either top 50 or top 20. There is no way she is losing the final if she beats Serena.
 
Thanks!!

I think that the winner would come out of the bottom if Serena advances to the semifinals against Kim. Not much of a prediction, but what the heck. :)
 
grafselesfan said:
She has really come a long way though. I didnt see her being a top 10 player even in the current weak womens field, more a top 20 but she is going beyond my expectations.
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I know, but that's a lot of matches though and looking at this match in between points you would think it was the other way around. But with the current field, she has proven that consistency and controlled aggression is more than enough to get the job done.
 
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