Wooden Spoons (Anti-Slams) for the Big Four

[jm1980]

From wikipedia:

A wooden spoon, also known as the "anti-slam" [...] is said to be won by the player who is defeated in the first round by a player who is defeated in the second round, and so forth, until the final of a given tournament.

In other words, the "biggest loser" of a tournament is awarded the wooden spoon / anti-slam. For example, Federer lost to Kyrgios, who lost to Isner, who lost to Berdych, who lost to Nadal, who lost to Murray in Madrid. So he gets the wooden spoon for this tournament.

Nadal and Federer lead the Big Four with four such awards, but Rafa has one Slam spoon

Nadal (4):

• 2005 Auckland
• 2014 Halle
• 2015 Doha
• 2016 Australian Open

Federer (4):

• 2000 Indianapolis
• 2004 Cincinnati Masters
• 2015 Madrid Masters
• 2017 Stuttgart

Murray (2):

• 2007 Hamburg Masters
• 2017 Queen's Club

Djokovic (0): None so far.

Last updated: 2022-10-09

 

[Kirijax]

Haha, Nice! I always go back down a draw to see who was the biggest loser in a tournament. I did not know that there was a Wooden Spoon though! Thanks for the info.

 

[The Green Mile]

Interesting stat. Do you have any more for other players?

 

[jm1980]

Interesting stat. Do you have any more for other players?

I have to sift through the results manually.

I start by looking at all first round losses by a player and go from there. For example, Murray.

 

[tennisaddict]

Madrid is not a true wooden spoon as Fed had a bye in R1 and the count starts from R2.

A true wooden spoon is when it starts from R1.

 

[veroniquem]

So, only Djoko doesn't lose to clown opponents? Lol

 

[nguyentuanson16792]

If Darcis lost next round instead of retire, Nadal would be No1

 

[daddy]

Madrid is not a true wooden spoon as Fed had a bye in R1 and the count starts from R2.

A true wooden spoon is when it starts from R1.

Or it's even bigger loss considering he is a seeded player with favorable draw.

 

[Tenez!]

So this thread did exist.
I'm actually surprised it's as many as 3 for Nadal & Fed, as the Wooden Spoons are a tiny subset of the matches lost upon entering a tournament, which itself must be very small.
Also, notice Hrbatý accounts for 2 of the 6 WS!

Or it's even bigger loss considering he is a seeded player with favorable draw.

Yes. He got the wooden spoon, no question about it.

If Darcis lost next round instead of retire, Nadal would be No1

In Wimbledon 2013? No, retirement and defeat have the same draw consequences. But Łukasz Kubot would have had to lose in 3R to Paire, then Paire lose to Mannarino in 4R, then Mannarino to Janowicz in QF.
None of this happened, so Nadal was far from earning Berlocq's wooden spoon.

 

[LazyNinja19]

So Dimitrov doesn't even have an Anti-Slam?

Spoiler

 

[tennis_pro]

So THAT'S what it's called...

I'll do the Slams in my spare time to see who the biggest loser was.

 

[tennis_pro]

Btw I'm not sure f.e. 2015 Madrid should count because Kyrgios won a match before beating Federer.

 

[tennis_pro]

2015 US Open - Mathieu
2015 Wimbledon - Bellucci (Nadal beat him in the first round so Rafa received a semi-anti-Slam spoon)
2015 FO - Hamou
2015 AO - Kavcic

2014 US Open - Benneteau
2014 Wimbledon - Karlovic
2014 FO - Montanes
2014 AO - Delbonis

2013 US Open - Lacko
2013 Wimbledon - Berlocq
2013 FO - Kudla
2013 AO - Haas

2012 US Open - Kukushkin
2012 Wimbledon - Bogomolov Jr.
2012 FO - Prodon
2012 AO - Muller

2011 US Open - Beck
2011 Wimbledon - Lacko
2011 FO - Brands
2011 AO - Gremelmayr

2010 US Open - Marchenko
2010 Wimbledon - Delgado
2010 FO - Schuttler
2010 AO - Haase

 

[Tenez!]

Nice, but it's been done elsewhere: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...cept-the-anti-grand-slam.545163/#post-9689305

 

[Mainad]

Wow, so wooden spoons for BOTH Fed and Rafa this year!

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Nice, but it's been done elsewhere: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...cept-the-anti-grand-slam.545163/#post-9689305

No. This thread was created in May, yours was created 2 days ago... This is the correct thread

 

[Tenez!]

I meant the GS wooden spoon lists already exist, all the way back to 1969, and I posted the links over there.

The threads are a little different. This one is about the number of wooden spoons across all events, the other one about slams. We could merge but I don't know how to proceed.

Wow, so wooden spoons for BOTH Fed and Rafa this year!

Better yet: before January 2015, Dominic Hrbaty accounted for 50% of all wooden spoons handed to them (1 each).

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Ana Ivanovic and Mary Pierce are the only women to have won both a slam and the wooden spoon at a slam

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Ana Ivanovic and Mary Pierce are the only women to have won both a slam and the wooden spoon at a slam

Have any men ever "achieved" this?

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Have any men ever "achieved" this?

Ivanisevic 1995 Aus Open. Won 2001 Wimbledon
Marat Safin 2004 US Open wooden spoon. Won 2000 US Open and 2005 Aus Open.
Richard Krajicek 1994 Wimbledon. Won 1996 Wimbledon


Also find this funny. Fernando Gonzalez was a finalist at the the 2007 Australian Open. Yet was the wooden spoon winner at the 2007 French Open AND the 2007 US Open. Not only was it 2 but in the same year and the same year he reached a slam final.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Ivanisevic 1995 Aus Open. Won 2001 Wimbledon
Marat Safin 2004 US Open wooden spoon. Won 2000 US Open and 2005 Aus Open.
Richard Krajicek 1994 Wimbledon. Won 1996 Wimbledon


Also find this funny. Fernando Gonzalez was a finalist at the the 2007 Australian Open. Yet was the wooden spoon winner at the 2007 French Open AND the 2007 US Open. Not only was it 2 but in the same year and the same year he reached a slam final.

Thanks for the info.
I especially like Krajicek and Safin's efforts, winning both the title and wooden spoon at one particular slam.

 

[Tenez!]

Time to update!

 

[Krish872007]

From wikipedia:



In other words, the "biggest loser" of a tournament is awarded the wooden spoon / anti-slam. For example, Federer lost to Kyrgios, who lost to Isner, who lost to Berdych, who lost to Nadal, who lost to Murray in Madrid. So he gets the wooden spoon for this tournament.

Federer and Nadal are tied for first with three such awards

Federer (3):

• 2000 Indianapolis
• 2004 Cincinnati Masters
• 2015 Madrid Masters

Nadal (3):

• 2005 Auckland
• 2014 Halle
• 2015 Doha

Murray (1):

• 2007 Hamburg Masters

Djokovic (0): None so far.

Good list. But since we're talking about Anti-Slams, Nadal now has 1 and the others have 0 at the moment.

 

[jm1980]

Good list. But since we're talking about Anti-Slams, Nadal now has 1 and the others have 0 at the moment.

 

[Krish872007]

We need a photoshop of Rafa biting his "trophy" following last night's historic win.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

Spoon defenses? Imagine they come along once in a blue spoon? Fed has an opportunity here. Well, pseudo-Spoon, anyway.

 

[Mainad]

So Rafa is better at 'spooning' than anybody else?

 

[sbengte]

So Fed has both the slam and wooden spoon at the REAL SLAM ?

 

[DismalFuture]

So Dimitrov doesn't even have an Anti-Slam?

Spoiler

Interesting...

 

[Red Rick]

From wikipedia:



In other words, the "biggest loser" of a tournament is awarded the wooden spoon / anti-slam. For example, Federer lost to Kyrgios, who lost to Isner, who lost to Berdych, who lost to Nadal, who lost to Murray in Madrid. So he gets the wooden spoon for this tournament.

Nadal leads the Big Four with four such awards, including one Slam spoon

Nadal (4):

• 2005 Auckland
• 2014 Halle
• 2015 Doha
• 2016 Australian Open

Federer (3):

• 2000 Indianapolis
• 2004 Cincinnati Masters
• 2015 Madrid Masters

Murray (1):

• 2007 Hamburg Masters

Djokovic (0): None so far.

Lol Hrabty, making the spoon possible for Fred when he's #1. Hrabty underrated sneaky *******. 4 of his 31 top 10 victories where against the world #1.

 

[ghostofMecir]

Djokovic (0): None so far.

The reason why OP posted this thread...

 

[jm1980]

The reason why OP posted this thread...

The actual reason was because Fed got one at the Madrid Open that year

I like this kind of trivia. Check out my other threads/posts, like:

• Match points saved and squandered by the Big Four
• Bagels received by the Big Four
• Five-set records for ATG player