Woolly Mammoth Resurrection
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BeatlesFan
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No.... completely barbaric for the animal. China would simply swoop down and decimate the population, as they have African and Asian elephants. Poachers would sell their ivory to the heinous humans who buy it. There is no habitat available where the Wooly Mammoth could roam. Habitat encroachment from humans has decimated not only animal species, but insects and every other living thing that walks, crawls, swims or flies.
Really good question though, food for thought.
Really good question though, food for thought.
ffw2
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No denying the bolded. It's where we are.
While I am an idealist by nature, I am extremely pessimistic with regard to the current and future net effect of humanity on the planet.
Pmasterfunk
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I vaguely remember this being part of some plan to let the mammoths roam in Siberia to combat global warming. Sounds pretty wild to me, bit I'm not sure I have the same issues @BeatlesFan has, mostly seeing as they would roam in areas that are very difficult to access for humans and fairly sparsely populated even by animals. I see it as the opposite problem: mammoths encroaching on the living spaces of other animals, or possibly thriving to the point of disaster like hippopotami (hippopotamuses?) in South America without natural predators.
To preemptively answer the burning question as to how this is going to solve global warming, I'll try my best to explain from memory (I'm too lazy to look it up). The permafrost in Siberia contains lots of buried methane, and said permafrost has risen in temperature partially because of an increase in tree population. The mammoths would roam around and reduce the tree population, hence lowering the permafrost temps and subsequently keep all that methane trapped.
I'm not saying I expect this to work, that's just one justification for it.
To preemptively answer the burning question as to how this is going to solve global warming, I'll try my best to explain from memory (I'm too lazy to look it up). The permafrost in Siberia contains lots of buried methane, and said permafrost has risen in temperature partially because of an increase in tree population. The mammoths would roam around and reduce the tree population, hence lowering the permafrost temps and subsequently keep all that methane trapped.
I'm not saying I expect this to work, that's just one justification for it.
Nostradamus
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if they can do it,, just Do it,, NO ethical dilemma here. but i bet they can't do it yet. They tried to bring back Puma like creature that went extinct 20 years ago last year and they couldn't do it. They cloned 100 of these puma and all died except 1. and that one only lived for like 5 minutes
Do you support bringing them back from the extinction vaults, Jurassic-Park-style?
Evidently, a biosciences company has raised $15 million toward the goal.
There are high-level geneticists who see them roaming Earth once more.
Ethical dilemma.
ffw2
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Apparently, this process would involve hybridizing with African elephants. Genetic splicing or something.if they can do it,, just Do it,, NO ethical dilemma here. but i bet they can't do it yet. They tried to bring back Puma like creature that went extinct 20 years ago last year and they couldn't do it. They cloned 100 of these puma and all died except 1. and that one only lived for like 5 minutes
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Old news. The Woolly Mammoth was already resurrected more than 20 years ago:
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
I want one.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
The big one or the little one (post #8)?
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
I would settle for a regular, non-wooly, mammoth.
ffw2
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Do you draw a line anywhere?
All discussion. Just gauging views.
Part of me feels like if this becomes reality, it sets in motion a whole string of events. Or at a minimum, copycat follow-ups.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
with all this global warming,, wouldn't it be too hot in the zoo ??
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
This is a good point. Maybe we have ruined the world for gigantic hairy beasts.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Pointless to do this. But humans are naturally inclined to do things that are possible.
This opens up Pandora's box.
This opens up Pandora's box.
Azure
G.O.A.T.
And then a few decades later millions will be spent on reversing the error. Humans don't learn it seems
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Will eventually humans will do something they can't reverse. Then humans won't be the dominate species.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Should bring back the moa instead, Kentucky Fried Moa, oh dear...
ffw2
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We've crossed that bridge.
mmk
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A Mastodon
Azure
G.O.A.T.
Pretty much it seems.We've crossed that bridge.
Larry Duff
Legend
20+ poasts and no comparison to the sureshs.
Weak era.
Weak era.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Theoretically yes, I would draw the line somewhere. If an animal resurrection would aid the ecosystem, I'm all for it. I draw the line at harming the ecosystem.
ffw2
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Correction: The cross would be with the Asian elephant, the mammoth's nearest living relative.
An interesting theory about our deep-seated interest in bringing these creatures back from the dead involves human guilt for having played a role in their demise.
ffw2
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They might drive the mammoths to extinction again.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
This is terrible. We should always remember the last time humans made something irreversible and much more stupid, when the covid virus leaked from a China lab while performing gain-of-function research.
ffw2
Hall of Fame
They are vaccinating zoo animals these days.
Maybe they will genetically engineer the mammoth with some form of immunity.
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
From what I understand, when many people (mostly my friends) have their DNA tested to determine their genealogy, they are told that they have a certain percentage of Neanderthal DNA. Just looking around, this would seem intuitively true. Apparently they are not as extinct as one might think.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
... building rockets that fly themselves... one day these machines and spliced genetics will look at us and...
James P
G.O.A.T.
My DNA is definitely 'thaling
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Imagine if Neanderthal was a surname.
That would be very useful to track them.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
You should never try to resurrect the eighth passenger.... building rockets that fly themselves... one day these machines and spliced genetics will look at us and...
tennishabit
Legend
she's already tried m8, signatured rackets/shoes/candies/undies/etcetc...........etc
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Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Undies? Where?she's already tried m8, signatured rackets/shoes/candies/undies/etcetc...........etc
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Extinct once, your fault. Extinct twice, my fault.
puppybutts
Hall of Fame
I don't really see the point in bringing back a species before fixing our environment enough to sustain the ones we already have. The tech could be useful, but I'm not optimistic about people erring only on the side of good for such science.
ffw2
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Yeah, seems staggeringly short-sighted.
I mean, incredible that we're at the point where the technology exists to bring it to fruition...
Also cool that some of the people championing this cause were inspired by the author...
But come on.