Worst Masters/YEC champion ever?

Who is the worst Masters/YEC champion?

  • Alex Corretja 1998

    Votes: 17 23.9%
  • David Nalbandian 2005

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Grigor Dimitrov 2017

    Votes: 49 69.0%
  • Stefanos Tsitsipas 2019

    Votes: 4 5.6%

  • Total voters
    71

Fedeonic

Hall of Fame
The last 4 or so Masters champions haven't won any Grand Slam, and even two of them haven't reached a major final.

Discuss.
 

Fedeonic

Hall of Fame
Nikolay Davydenko, the 2009 champion, never even reached a Slam final either. Should he be on your list?
I took in account that, but Davydenko wasn't a bad performer in the Masters 1000. I used UTS Goat List, he's even over Zverev and Medvedev. All of them have 3 M1000s and 1 Masters.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Guys, no offense, but we need to adjust our language to the current times. It has been called "ATP finals" since 2019 or so.

Time to stop calling it "WTF" or even worse "Masters Cup".
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Guys, no offense, but we need to adjust our language to the current times. It has been called "ATP finals" since 2019 or so.

Time to stop calling it "WTF" or even worse "Masters Cup".
Trouble is the terminology for this event changes almost as often as its main sponsor. I like to use 'YEC' as a convenient cover-all for various editions of this tournament.
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
i bought a roll of nitto 1kv rated insulation tape the other week for an electronics project, ten goddamn $10.50 dollars fifty that cost me but at least i got enough to probably last for years
 

MadariKatu

Professional
Guys, no offense, but we need to adjust our language to the current times. It has been called "ATP finals" since 2019 or so.

Time to stop calling it "WTF" or even worse "Masters Cup".
wtf is shorter to write; that's why I use it. When speaking I call it the masters tournament. It's what they used to call it in spanish, and there are no confortable translations of wtf or nitto atp finals. TV commentators try to say it correctly, but often keep on calling it the old way. Especially when they invite former pro players.
 

DIMI_D

Semi-Pro
Dimi 2017
Beat Busta, Goffin twice, thiem - which wasn’t good on hard hadn’t yet made adjustments necessary and especially indoors, sock - forgotten man with his last good run anywhere ;)
 

tonylg

Legend
Did anyone voting for Dimitrov ever actually see Corretja play?

He had Agassi retire in the group stage and Sampras implode hitting 50 unforced errors in 3 sets (and choking 3 match points).

He was lucky to get into the Masters Finals, ridiculously lucky to win it.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Did anyone voting for Dimitrov ever actually see Corretja play?

He had Agassi retire in the group stage and Sampras implode hitting 50 unforced errors in 3 sets (and choking 3 match points).

He was lucky to get into the Masters Finals, ridiculously lucky to win it.
Still he beat two slam champion of that year, I don't remember when was the last time any player won yec without beating slam champion or slam finalist of that year apart from Dmitri.
 

tonylg

Legend
Still he beat two slam champion of that year, I don't remember when was the last time any player won yec without beating slam champion or slam finalist of that year apart from Dmitri.
No doubt Dimi had the easier draw. No question about that.

There's also no question that Corretja is the worse tennis player.
 

tonylg

Legend
How is Corretja worse if he had a higher peak? Even discounting clay which you hate, 1996 USO QF > any dimitrough match.
That was indeed the match of his life and he still managed to lose to a player chucking up his guts.

Dimitrov played a better match in his 2019 QF and actually put away his injured opponent.

But you're right, I don't value baseline bots as much as most on here. Which is what Corretja was. A surface specialist who was completely incompetent on grass and carpet. He could be the greatest clay courter in history .. and it still wouldn't make up for his incompetence inside the baseline.

Dimitrov, on the other hand, has a winning record across all surfaces. Case closed.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Zverev actually played some decent tennis to win that tournament, especially in the final. I’m not even talking “decent for this poor era”, I’m talking decent overall. It was a good win.
From 2018 yec has been quite decent with some good matches, last year yec both semi and final was good, Rafa match against thiem was also good
2019 match between Djokovic and thiem, Rafa against Tsists and Med and Final was good
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
Dimilol obviously. Nalbandian shouldn't be in that list.
Because he also got weak draw, he somewhat redeemed the situation by beating Fed in final but still that was weak yec.
No Safin,Hewitt, Roddick, Rafa, Agassi and even Fed was injured, Fed may have played because of less star power in that edition.
So apart from Fed only Puerta was the only slam finalist from that year, he was more or less claycourter and so was Gaudio also.
Tsists name should not be in the list as he played quite decent tennis to win tournament defeated Med, Thiem, Fed, all of them were slam finalist, only match he lost to Rafa was three setter
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
Tsisipas is 22, has about 15 more years in his career.

He has a ton of promise, or else he'd have not beat Federer two years ago at AO. Federer made Slam SF and F afterwards, so he was much more than serviceable back then.

And didn't Tsisipas come back from 2 sets down, to Djokovic at '20 RG, and to Nadal at '21 AO to win? Playing scintillating tennis with fighting spirit, I might add!
 

ArcspacE

Legend
Dimi-haters frothing the best looking man on Tour will retire a millionaire having won this prestigious award

Cry more
 

ibbi

Legend
Zverev and Medvedev's were both pretty badass, whatever you think of their careers in general. Tsitsipas was not that convincing maybe, but getting the only win of his life against Medvedev even if Med was totally shot at that point is not entirely unworthy, and beating Fed after Fed put Novak out to pasture is also pretty cool, and of course beating Thiem at the death after that week was threatening to be Thiem's coming out party was also of note. Oh, and he beat the defending champ too, which is not a total joke considering the beating Zverev had put on Nadal.

Dimitrov's is clearly the worst to me. Nalbandian's is certainly not very good, but I'll go to bat for Alex any day after surviving the match points against Petros and the comeback in the final. Grigor's is just a joke. He beat Jack Sock and an alternate. Goffin did all the hard work that week (whatever the state of Nadal) and Dimitrov just bullied him and stole his lunch money.
 

pico

Professional
I have this theory that for the last 4 years, the Nitto winner has been jinxed for the next year. Happened with Dimitrov, Murray, Tsitsipas and now Medvedev. Tsitsipas came out of the jinx this year n won a Masters. I believe Medvedev will not win a Masters or Slam this year.
 

daggerman

Hall of Fame
Most sports fans would consider a 22-year-old who’s a top-5 player in the world a promising young talent, but in tennis the discussion is about how bad he is.

Like, I don’t think basketball fans are asking if Luka Doncic is the worst all-NBA player ever.

But yeah, more kids should definitely pick up tennis...
 
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