Would college tennis format work in USTA?

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by 86golf, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. 86golf

    86golf Semi-Pro

    Aug 30, 2009
    Now that there is a 40+ league, it would be interesting if the 18+ went to a format similar to college tennis. This would play the doubles lines first and allow the dubs players to also play singles in the same match. Maybe even switch it around and have two doubles lines and 3 singles lines.

    Advantages would be: facilities with only three courts could be used; smaller teams, more teams would open up smaller markets that normally don't have usta leagues
  2. beernutz

    beernutz Hall of Fame

    Aug 16, 2005
    Make TT better, use the Ignore List!
    Maybe but do you know how long a typical college match runs? The last one I went to about a week ago started at 11 and was over around 3.
  3. floridatennisdude

    floridatennisdude Hall of Fame

    Feb 9, 2012
    That is my first thought as well. The format is exciting, but requires really strong fitness levels.

    I think the usta 2/3 system is pretty ideal for the weekend warriors who aren't training as full time tennis players.
  4. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

    Aug 31, 2006
    Two doubles and three singles?

    You can kiss ladies USTA rec play goodbye. It is crazy hard to find enough singles players each year. Few ladies want to play singles, and those who do get hurt a lot and have limits to how often they can safely play.

    If I had a magic wand, I would separate singles and doubles completely. You would have USTA league with five courts of doubles, and you would have a separate league with three courts of singles.

    Requiring teams to field both singles and doubles is a source of endless migraines.
  5. Nostradamus

    Nostradamus Talk Tennis Guru

    Nov 30, 2011
    In the future
    That is provided that 3 guys want to play singles in a 40+ league. We have trouble finding 2 guys that want to play singles that are any good.
  6. goober

    goober Legend

    Jun 9, 2004
    The doubles lines in college tennis are played as an 8 game pro set. The team that wins that gets a single point. Then the 6 singles are all 1 point each. Many times once the overall match is decided, the remaining people who are playing singles will stop the match regardless of score. That happens more during playoffs and team tournaments than regular season but both these could alleviate the fitness level issues.

    I doubt though that this format would work for adult recreational levels, because I don't see teams wanting that much singles. Even a 2/3 system I doubt would be popular. The people who really want singles generally will play tournaments and flex type leagues.
  7. PBODY99

    PBODY99 Hall of Fame

    Aug 17, 2005
    Inter_Club in the early 1980s

    In the Philadephia,Pa area the men played this format before USTA League Tennis
  8. Angle Queen

    Angle Queen Professional

    Jul 27, 2010
    On the deuce side, looking to come in
    We have a non-USTA league that plays a 3S/4D format with prosets (8 for S, 10 for D). Players can play both in the same morning. "Promotion" is done on a team basis and relegation style. Top two teams move up, bottom two move down.

    Have to say, it's highly successful around here...and infinitely more laid back than USTA. There is no formal "league fee," rather there's a relatively nominal team fee and most teams include the season's worth of balls before dividing it up. Home (club, neighborhood or reservable public court) team provides courts. This year, I paid $13 to play two, 7-week seasons, split between Fall and Spring. There are fairly liberal "substitution" policies and many teams run with a thinner roster since they can "sub" in a player from a lower division. I have been able to play in every week's lineup that my personal schedule allowed.

    And, because the it's the "team's" placement, individual players can range all over the NTRP spectrum or not even have a rating at all. There are some rules about having to play "in order of strength," and after having played for several years, the vast majority of teams play it that way. Our team ranges from a 4.5 to 3.5s and I've had the pleasure to play with them all at some point or another.

    It's so fun...even our club pros play in it...while they often shun USTA (or can't because there's not a league/team for them in our area).
  9. Fuji

    Fuji Legend

    Aug 30, 2010
    See, that seems like a way more fun way to play team tennis than USTA IMO!

  10. OrangePower

    OrangePower Legend

    Sep 7, 2007
    NorCal Bay Area
    I used to play in a similar league. I thought it was great - the format, the fact that it's not based on individual players' ratings, and the relegation/promotion but no playoffs aspect.

    Unfortunately it no longer exists - USTA is pretty much the only game in town now (bay area). I think most people prefer the playoffs / postseason aspect of USTA. Personally, I think league is better when the emphasis is on the regular season as opposed to playoffs, but I think I am in the minority.

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