Would Federer have been so dominant from 2003 to 2006 if more players had served and volleyed during that time?!

Would Federer have been so dominant from 2003 to 2006 if more players had served and volleyed during

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Smecz

Semi-Pro
Would Federer have been so dominant from 2003 to 2006 if more players had served and volleyed during that time?!

I remind you that against Patrick Rafter he had an unfavorable loss record of 3 to 0, and who knows how Federer's career would have turned out if there had been more such players in the years 2003 to 2006?!
 

Pheasant

Legend
Fed's movement by 2004 was substantially better than it was even a couple of years prior to that. Also, Fed ditched that crummy 85 inch stock in 2002 for a better 90 inch stick. Fed was equipped to hit passing shots all day long against S and V players by 2004.

One key matchup vs a S and V player that really swung in Fed's favor was his matchup vs Henman. Henman raced out to a 6-1 lead in the HTH, only to watch Fed win the last 6 matches of their rivalry. And Fed didn't lose one set during those last 6 matches.

In order to keep Fed from winning as much as he did for 2004-2006, they would have needed to keep all of the courses lightning fast, ban poly strings, and limit the size of the racket to 85 inches.
 
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Deleted member 779124

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Including 2007 in this makes sense that was a better year for Fed than 2003.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
He lost exactly 4 Slam matches in that glorious TMF time period from 04-06

RG 04 to Kuerten
AO 05 to Safin
RG 05/06 to Nadal

I’m sure he’d have LOVED to play a serve-volleyer instead of those guys, each possessing one of the greatest left sides of all time and being the absolute cream of the crop of what tennis history has to offer in terms of baselining and power.
 

Smecz

Semi-Pro
Fed's movement by 2004 was substantially better than it was even a couple of years prior to that. Also, Fed ditched that crummy 85 inch stock in 2002 for a better 90 inch stick. Fed was equipped to hit passing shots all day long against S and V players by 2004.

One key matchup vs a S and V player that really swung in Fed's favor was his matchup vs Henman. Henman raced out to a 6-1 lead in the HTH, only to watch Fed win the last 6 matches of their rivalry. And Fed didn't lose one set during those last 6 matches.

In order to keep Fed from winning as much as he did for 2004-2006, they would have needed to keep all of the courses lightning fast, ban poly strings, and limit the size of the racket to 85 inches.
Tim Henman was a bit too slow, and not on the same level as Patrick Rafter!!

And his service was average and he was aggressive, but there was a lack of finishing points..
 

daggerman

Hall of Fame
He'd have been even more dominant. If SnV were a comparatively viable strategy against Fed during that time, more players would've done it.
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
Serve and volley didn’t just accidentally phase out of the tour. It ceased being viable at the very top level.
 

Smecz

Semi-Pro
Serve and volley didn’t just accidentally phase out of the tour. It ceased being viable at the very top level.
Yes sure, Djo and Rafa they were the first to contribute to this!.

However,from 2003 to 2006,a few more strong serve and volley players could appear, Tim Henman is not in the same league as Patrick Rafter, Boric Becker, Pete Sampras!!!.
 

Third Serve

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes sure, Djo and Rafa they were the first to contribute to this!.

However,from 2003 to 2006,a few more strong serve and volley players could appear, Tim Henman is not in the same league as Patrick Rafter, Boric Becker, Pete Sampras!!!.
No, Djokovic and Nadal never contributed to it. They arrived on the tour after serve and volley ceased being viable.

Poly strings were what ultimately caused the end of serve and volley. The style didn’t die out immediately but it slowly faded away after those strings were introduced to the tour. Even guys like Federer who used at least a dose of serve and volley in the beginnings of their careers abandoned it later on. Look at how different Fed played at Wimbledon 2001 from 2003, and look at how different he played there at 2003 from 2005.
 

Smecz

Semi-Pro
No, Djokovic and Nadal never contributed to it. They arrived on the tour after serve and volley ceased being viable.

Poly strings were what ultimately caused the end of serve and volley. The style didn’t die out immediately but it slowly faded away after those strings were introduced to the tour. Even guys like Federer who used at least a dose of serve and volley in the beginnings of their careers abandoned it later on. Look at how different Fed played at Wimbledon 2001 from 2003, and look at how different he played there at 2003 from 2005.
Ok,Why did poly strings end the era of serve and volley?!
 

SonnyT

Legend
Djokovic approaches the net & volleys more than ever. Nadal was until he got hurt. I like it the way it is now. If you approach on a nothing ball, you're going to get passed.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
He lost exactly 4 Slam matches in that glorious TMF time period from 04-06

RG 04 to Kuerten
AO 05 to Safin
RG 05/06 to Nadal

I’m sure he’d have LOVED to play a serve-volleyer instead of those guys, each possessing one of the greatest left sides of all time and being the absolute cream of the crop of what tennis history has to offer in terms of baselining and power.
*1 slam match
 
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