Would like to try Hybrid setup.. Couple of questions.

brettatk

Semi-Pro
I use a Wilson Hyper Carbon Pro Staff 6.1 with a full bed of PSGD 16 strung at 61 lbs. I'm a fairly heavy hitter at the 4.0-4.5 level. My best guess is that I break a string every 6-8 hours of play. I'd like to prolong that and start using a hybrid setup. If I keep using PSGD 16 in the crosses, what would be a good poly to use in the mains? I've seen people recommend Big Banger or ALU Power but there are so many different choices. Also how much more life would I expect out of my strings if I went to a hybrid setup? Another reason I'm looking at a hybrid setup is that I've had TE issues in the past. I don't think I could stand a full bed of poly. Thanks for any help you can provide me.
 

Imago

Hall of Fame
I used PSGD (62) and Alu Power Spin (55) in the crosses. Vice versa will last longer for you. Solinco Outlast 16 or Wilson Revolve would be even better for crosses.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
A hybrid setup is not a huge elbow saver with poly mains. Id strongly suggest gut poly if you wanted to go that route. Gut mains will be better on your elbow and the setup is a lot more spin friendly as well. I used poly/syn gut hybrid setups for 2 years.
 

MixedMaster

Semi-Pro
A hybrid setup is not a huge elbow saver with poly mains. Id strongly suggest gut poly if you wanted to go that route. Gut mains will be better on your elbow and the setup is a lot more spin friendly as well. I used poly/syn gut hybrid setups for 2 years.
I agree with Power Player. ..gut mains rock and it's much easier on your arm. You will find you get more than enough power and plenty of spin. Depending on which cross you use, the touch is really good also!!
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
I think it's around a 65, so not too stiff I guess. I've been thinking about trying out the PS97. Not sure it'll give me anything that I don't currently have though.
 

Jay2014

New User
A hybrid setup is not a huge elbow saver with poly mains. Id strongly suggest gut poly if you wanted to go that route. Gut mains will be better on your elbow and the setup is a lot more spin friendly as well. I used poly/syn gut hybrid setups for 2 years.
I disagree. Constant arm pain when using poly strings (all types). Spent a while thinking it was the racquets but as soon as I put gut in the crosses all pain went away. I have tried various combinations since with gut/syn gut in the crosses and different polys in mains (including stiff ones), no problem. I did try gut in the mains, waaay too powerful and didnt want to string above 60. Oh and just to add, recently just thought Id try a full poly in my new racquet just to test and yes, arm pain back within a couple of hours. Stick with the hybrids but play around all you like with different combinations.
 

Taveren

Semi-Pro
I also recommend nat gut mains for comfort and superb tension maintenance and poly crosses to tame the power and provide excellent snap back.

The inverse will play a lot stiffer and will be harsher feeling IMO. Ofcourse ymmv
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
a rule of thumb when working with poly is to go down 5-10% from your tension of choice of synthetic gut, so at a 61lbs start, i would start the poly at 55lbs-57lbs mains, youll need to see if you need to go down further form there
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
I appreciate all the feedback. I think I'm going to experiment a bit starting off with poly in the mains and syn gut in the crosses. Anyone that uses this hybrid setup care to tell me what works best for them? How many hours of play do you get from your hybrid setup?
 

Taveren

Semi-Pro
I appreciate all the feedback. I think I'm going to experiment a bit starting off with poly in the mains and syn gut in the crosses. Anyone that uses this hybrid setup care to tell me what works best for them? How many hours of play do you get from your hybrid setup?
I have tried RPM blast mains (54lbs) and NRG crosses (52lbs) and enjoyed it a lot. after a total of 12 hours of court time the crosses were heavily notched, almost breaking and the stringbed became uncontrollable so had to cut it out.
 

SCRAP IRON

Professional
I used that stiff, head heavy Wilson racket that the OP is currently using back in the 90's. Try another racket with less stiffness which will allow you to use a hybrid and you won't have the arm pain necessarily. The new Yonex Ai-98 is not at all stiff and a maneuverable racket like that, while it takes getting used to, will open the door to new possibilities in your tennis game.
 

NLBwell

Legend
The most arm-saving poly solution is gut mains and poly crosses. For me, that can last about a year per string job (Babolat Tonic Longevity mains). I use Signum Pro Poly Plasma Pure (SPPPP) for the crosses because it holds tension about the best of any poly and is very good on the arm. The gut doesn't loosen up, so you don't have to restring because of the poly loosening up or going dead. Definitely more power than poly setups.
The next is a soft poly/multi. For that, SPPPP mains and AlphaGut2000 crosses works really well for me. The AlphaGut is cheap and plays really well and lasts a long time in a hybrid. For poly-type performance, I go with Lux ALU Rough and AlphaGut2000. Higher performance than the SPPPP. [Just strung a racket up with Lux ALU Fluoro and AlphaGut2000 and liking it a lot so far.]
You can use gut in the crosses and it is even softer than the multi, but much more money for little performance difference.
If you want to use PSGD, it will be a bit stiffer than the AlphaGut crosses.
If you aren't into the gut, try the SPPPP/AlphaGut first and if you arm is OK, move onto the Luxilon/AlphaGut
 
If you've had/have arm problems, I'm not sure i'd opt for Alu Power as a starting point in the mains as it oid one of the stiffest polyesters out there. Maybe worth considering one of the softer polyesters first and if they don't cause problems you could experiment with slightly stiffer strings. Softer polys that come to mind would be Babolat RPM Blast, MSV Focus range, ...
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
Thanks again for the feedback. Listening to everything that's been said and doing some research online, I'm now leaning towards a gut/poly setup. I see there's a lot of threads about this so I've been reading though them. If I'm use to stringing synthetic gut at 61 lbs, what tension would I use for this type setup? Would I still want to string the poly lower as with a SG setup? Anyone have any suggested combos with the racket I'm using mentioned in my first post?
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks again for the feedback. Listening to everything that's been said and doing some research online, I'm now leaning towards a gut/poly setup. I see there's a lot of threads about this so I've been reading though them. If I'm use to stringing synthetic gut at 61 lbs, what tension would I use for this type setup? Would I still want to string the poly lower as with a SG setup? Anyone have any suggested combos with the racket I'm using mentioned in my first post?
Hmmm… Tension I would say 58/53 as a starting point. As to strings… Tonic + Ball Feel and Wilson Revolve 17 should perform quite well in there.
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
Hmmm… Tension I would say 58/53 as a starting point. As to strings… Tonic + Ball Feel and Wilson Revolve 17 should perform quite well in there.
Thanks for the suggestion. Would using Wilson Revolve 16 give me the same results? I guess I'm just worried about breaking strings but maybe I'm still in the synthetic gut mindset. Will 17 gauge last me as long in this kind of setup?
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks for the suggestion. Would using Wilson Revolve 16 give me the same results? I guess I'm just worried about breaking strings but maybe I'm still in the synthetic gut mindset. Will 17 gauge last me as long in this kind of setup?
It will last, no worries… That's a tight 18x20 pattern anyways, so it will last preeeeetty long. I go through Syn Gut in maybe 2-3 hours and I get north of 8 hours with gut/poly (and that's in my very open patterned Pro Staff 95). I wager that you will easily get more than 20 hours of good play from this setup.

I think you will prefer the thinner cross string with your quite dense string pattern.
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
I think I will try out that combination very soon. Thank you for your suggestion.

I have another question if someone doesn't mind answering. I'm going to have to get this done at a local stringer. Will they charge me for two half packs or will they charge me full price for each pack of string and then give me the extra? Or worse case, will they charge me full price for both packs and then keep any extra? Also if the poly shreds/breaks can I just replace it and not the gut? Will a stringer charge less for this or will it be full price? Thanks again!
 

Taveren

Semi-Pro
Brettatk, normally they will charge you 50% of the cost of the mains you chose and 50% of the cross strings you chose plus the stringing fee. Tennis shops normally have reels for their string jobs to lessen costs per string job.
 
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