Would Novak prefer his 2013 or Nadal's 2013?

Novak v. Nadal had title results been opposite


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bullfan

Legend
Do you think Novak would prefer having Nadals results in 2013 or his own?

It's easy to say yes, because Novak would have won RG and Cincey, 2 he hasn't won. But, disregard the tournament titles and just say:

Novak 2:1. GS
Novak 5:3 masters
Nadal: wtf

I had to include WTF since it was one of the wins Novak had over Rafa.

Novak over Nadal in GS 2:1, beating him twice
Novak winning 5 Masters vs Nadal winning 3
Nadal winning WTF

Would you think they are equal?
 
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chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
It's much better to win 2 slams and become year end number 1 than what Novak achieved in 2013. Add 5 Masters titles to that, it's a no-brainer. However, Novak's season was great as well. It's just that Rafa took the most important stats.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
I would say it was close. 1 major and 1 WTF vs 2 majors.

Even though 2 majors is better, his first round loss and another first round in absentia makes the 1 major, 2 finals, 1 semi and 1 WTF as EQUAL to Nadal.

Masters does not matter for these 2 players.
 

bullfan

Legend
I would say it was close. 1 major and 1 WTF vs 2 majors.

Even though 2 majors is better, his first round loss and another first round in absentia makes the 1 major, 2 finals, 1 semi and 1 WTF as EQUAL to Nadal.

Masters does not matter for these 2 players.

And Novak would be happier with 1 less GS win?
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
And Novak would be happier with 1 less GS win?

It is not that Novak hasnt won majors or not going to win in the future.

When all is done and dusted, 2011-13 would be a phenomenal period for Novak and it is going to stretch for another couple of years.
 
Djoker would sell his left nut in order to swap his season with Nadal's. Career Grand Slam and another USO to add to his resume, American hardcourt swing, etc. As a matter of fact, he would also sell both of Vajda's nuts to trade. LOL.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Djoker would sell his left nut in order to swap his season with Nadal's. Career Grand Slam and another USO to add to his resume, American hardcourt swing, etc. As a matter of fact, he would also sell both of Vajda's nuts to trade. LOL.

If at all Novak gives his nuts, it should be to Nadal , for Nadal is the cheapo , digger, that goes on a 7 month hibernation every few months.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Do you think Novak would prefer having Nadals results in 2013 or his own?

It's easy to say yes, because Novak would have won RG and Cincey, 2 he hasn't won. But, disregard the tournament titles and just say:

Novak 2:1. GS
Novak 5:3 masters
Nadal: wtf

I had to include WTF since it was one of the wins Novak had over Rafa.

Novak over Nadal in GS 2:1, beating him twice
Novak winning 5 Masters vs Nadal winning 3
Nadal winning WTF

Would you think they are equal?

You should have included their weeks at #1.
Nole earned 40 weeks to Nadal 12 weeks.

Nole Wimbledon and USO finalist
Nadal WTF runner-up finalist
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
The hurt you must feel, with Nadal achieving what he has!

Nadal is a clay bully , constant butt picker with a type of game that relies on endless grinding and grunting. Add to this the fake MTO, on court coaching, time wasting...this is what that hurts, not the majors he wins.

In any case, it was enjoyable to read about his loss today.
 

victorcruz

Hall of Fame
Nadal is a clay bully , constant butt picker with a type of game that relies on endless grinding and grunting. Add to this the fake MTO, on court coaching, time wasting...this is what that hurts, not the majors he wins.

In any case, it was enjoyable to read about his loss today.
Have you tried counting sheep to help you sleep? :lol:
 
You should have included their weeks at #1.
Nole earned 40 weeks to Nadal 12 weeks.

Nole Wimbledon and USO finalist
Nadal WTF runner-up finalist

The Weeks at #1 are based on a 52 week rolling calendar. And that includes the 7 months Nadal was out. Are you really that desperate? I mean Fedsperate? :)
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Even though 2 majors is better, his first round loss and another first round in absentia makes the 1 major, 2 finals, 1 semi and 1 WTF as EQUAL to Nadal.

GS tourneys are not mandatory events for the ATP players. They won't get penalized for skipping a GS tourney. (They get penalized for skipping the compulsory events of the ATP.)
Rafa's winning percentages of GS tourneys is a way better than that of Djoko:
Rafa......66,7 % (2 of 3)
Djoko....25, 0% (1 of 4)
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
assault and battery ...

Nadal is a clay bully , constant butt picker with a type of game that relies on endless grinding and grunting. Add to this the fake MTO, on court coaching, time wasting...this is what that hurts, not the majors he wins.

In any case, it was enjoyable to read about his loss today.
You forgot the shocking shoulder bump he delivered to Rosol. But I guess there's only so many felonies you can remember at one time.:)
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
No way. Long term what Rafa has is better. Nole only has WTF over Rafa.

I mean short term not doing anything at AO and W looks worse. But years from now, nobody will care.

If that gave Nole the year end, it would mean something. But it didn't.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
You should have included their weeks at #1.
Nole earned 40 weeks to Nadal 12 weeks

This year, Djoko was at #1 due to the points he earned in 2012!

Rafa became No.1 due the points he earned this year - in 2013.

Points earned during the 2013 ATP season: Rafa 13,030 > Djoko 12,260.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Rafa didn't do anything at the AO because he wasn't in Australia then.

And your point? That's even worse than 1st round loss, lol.

You have this strange belief, that if you aren't there, this somehow excuses you.

Showing up and losing is still a lot better than not showing up.

Go tell your boss that the only reason you failed is because you weren't there.
And see what happens! :).

Sorry mr. President, the only reason we lost the war was because our soldiers were injured and not there. I'm sure the enemy will understand it and surrender.
 

LazyNinja19

Banned
And your point? That's even worse than 1st round loss, lol.

You have this strange belief, that if you aren't there, this somehow excuses you.

Showing up and losing is still a lot better than not showing up.

Go tell your boss that the only reason you failed is because you weren't there.
And see what happens! :).

Sorry mr. President, the only reason we lost the war was because our soldiers were injured and not there. I'm sure the enemy will understand it and surrender.

Man, I really haven't seen anyone with as twisted logic as yours.
In India we have a term "dimaag ka dahi bana dena". It suits you perfectly!
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
And your point? That's even worse than 1st round loss, lol.
Go tell your boss that the only reason you failed is because you weren't there.

You have to fulfill the orders of your boss ! You are obliged to report him/her!

Try to understand that Rafa (as the ATP player) is not obliged to play in GS tourneys or report his absence from GS tourneys because they are non-mandatory tournaments for the ATP players.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Ridiculous. 2012 results are included in that, and we're talking about 2013.

It's true that 2012 results play the part on number of weeks at #1. But remember Nadal missed the early 2013 including the AO. Had Nadal played full season, I think he would have earned more than 12 weeks. Plus, had he did well at Wimbledon he would have captured the #1 earlier than October thus add more weeks at #1. Agree ?
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
It's true that 2012 results play the part on number of weeks at #1. But remember Nadal missed the early 2013 including the AO. Had Nadal played full season, I think he would have earned more than 12 weeks. Plus, had he did well at Wimbledon he would have captured the #1 earlier than October thus add more weeks at #1. Agree ?

Just simply ridiculous that you continue to push this. Give it up, 2012 results do not matter in a discussion of 2013 results. Weeks at #1 in a given year is simply not a good measure of who had the better season, year end #1 is.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
it does not matter what he prefers......he got what he deserved which is 1 slam and 2 runner up plates......nadal got what he thoroughly deserved which is 2 slams and 5 masters titles.....
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
It's true that 2012 results play the part on number of weeks at #1. But remember Nadal missed the early 2013 including the AO. Had Nadal played full season, I think he would have earned more than 12 weeks. Plus, had he did well at Wimbledon he would have captured the #1 earlier than October thus add more weeks at #1. Agree ?

If you insist on this approach, you need to use the race points rather than the entry points, so that no 2012 results are included. Nadal spent most of 2013 ahead in the race.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
You have to fulfill the orders of your boss ! You are obliged to report him/her!

Try to understand that Rafa (as the ATP player) is not obliged to play in GS tourneys or report his absence from GS tourneys because they are non-mandatory tournaments for the ATP players.

Yes, but he still didn't do anything at AO. I don't care what excuses you use.

Tired, injured, didn't play. Whatever. You said he was injured, so he couldn't play. So, he would have lost in first round anyway.
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
If you insist on this approach, you need to use the race points rather than the entry points, so that no 2012 results are included. Nadal spent most of 2013 ahead in the race.

True, but even if you were behind in the race most of the year, but finished as year end #1, you had the better year. A strong finish to the season matters just as much as a strong start.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
It doesn't matter what he'd prefer. He didn't win as much as Nadal anyway.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Go tell your boss that the only reason you failed is because you weren't there.
And see what happens! :).

Sorry mr. President, the only reason we lost the war was because our soldiers were injured and not there. I'm sure the enemy will understand it and surrender.
LOL.

Man, I really haven't seen anyone with as twisted logic as yours.
In India we have a term "dimaag ka dahi bana dena". It suits you perfectly!
LOL, I've never heard that one. Is this a new one ?
 

driscoll

Banned
You should have included their weeks at #1.
Nole earned 40 weeks to Nadal 12 weeks.

Yeah just like Nadal was the best player of 2011 since he spent more weeks at #1 than Djokovic, and Federer the best player of 2008 since he spent more weeks at #1 than Nadal. Anymore great comedy for us? Lucky Nadal. Even if Djokovic wins 3 slams next year and Nadal 0 (which will never happen mind you, but in the hypothetical it did) Nadal will still be by far the best player of the year he probably wouldnt lost #1 even then until sometime in the summer. Amazing.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Yeah just like Nadal was the best player of 2011 since he spent more weeks at #1 than Djokovic, and Federer the best player of 2008 since he spent more weeks at #1 than Nadal. Anymore great comedy for us? Lucky Nadal. Even if Djokovic wins 3 slams next year and Nadal 0 (which will never happen mind you, but in the hypothetical it did) Nadal will still be by far the best player of the year he probably wouldnt lost #1 even then until sometime in the summer. Amazing.

Everything some of these people say is to belittle each and every thing Rafa has done.
 

FreeBird

Legend
LOL.


LOL, I've never heard that one. Is this a new one ?
Nope Senti, it's pretty old. I'm sure you know what it means, or else our friend Freebird can explain you well :)

Let me depict 'dimag ka dahi' in a picture.

This.
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Tenez101

Banned
Is this a joke? If Djokovic had Nadal's season, he'd be sitting on 7 slams, a career slam, and would be at Agassi-tier level greatness, not to mention YE no. 1.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah just like Nadal was the best player of 2011 since he spent more weeks at #1 than Djokovic, and Federer the best player of 2008 since he spent more weeks at #1 than Nadal. Anymore great comedy for us? Lucky Nadal. Even if Djokovic wins 3 slams next year and Nadal 0 (which will never happen mind you, but in the hypothetical it did) Nadal will still be by far the best player of the year he probably wouldnt lost #1 even then until sometime in the summer. Amazing.

I don't understand your post. I've never said a player with most weeks at #1 is The best player of the year. Perhaps you want to address to someone who made such claim. Most fans believe Nadal is Player Of The Year and I have no quarrel with that, but only to some Nadal fans who have bashed Nole accomplishment, like trashing his ITF award.
 
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tennisfan87

Rookie
People, we have a confirmation and from non other than the mighty 5555 himself :)

Posted in another thread,this was my question to 5555. And the answer is below :)

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Would you like Djokovic to repeat his slam results next year since he's been the best player in 2013? That way he can be the best in 2014 again.

Would you rather Djokovic win 1 slam and reach 3 slam finals or 2 slams and lose in the 1st round of one of the slams next year?

If Djokovic wins 1 slam in 2014 that would be his third season in a row he won one slam. For that reason, I would not happy if repeats the same results as in 2013.

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People, we have a confirmation and from non other than the mighty 5555 himself :)

Posted in another thread,this was my question to 5555. And the answer is below :)

Quote:

Would you like Djokovic to repeat his slam results next year since he's been the best player in 2013? That way he can be the best in 2014 again.

Would you rather Djokovic win 1 slam and reach 3 slam finals or 2 slams and lose in the 1st round of one of the slams next year?

If Djokovic wins 1 slam in 2014 that would be his third season in a row he won one slam. For that reason, I would not happy if repeats the same results as in 2013.

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All these recent baffling events are making my head hurt.

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5555

Hall of Fame
People, we have a confirmation and from non other than the mighty 5555 himself :)

Posted in another thread,this was my question to 5555. And the answer is below :)

Quote:

Would you like Djokovic to repeat his slam results next year since he's been the best player in 2013? That way he can be the best in 2014 again.

Would you rather Djokovic win 1 slam and reach 3 slam finals or 2 slams and lose in the 1st round of one of the slams next year?

If Djokovic wins 1 slam in 2014 that would be his third season in a row he won one slam. For that reason, I would not happy if repeats the same results as in 2013.

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No, it's not confirmation from myself. I've said the reason I would not be happy if Djokovic repeats the same results in 2014 is that it would his third season in a row he won one slam but 2013 is his second season in a row he won one slam.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
No, it's not confirmation from myself. I've said the reason I would not be happy if Djokovic repeats the same results in 2014 is that it would his third season in a row he won one slam but 2013 is his second season in a row he won one slam.

Would you be happy if Nole 2014 accomplishment is the same as Nadal 2013 ?

Does missing the 2014 ITF award satisfy you ?
 
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