Would you recommend these books?

Firstly this one:

Play Better Tennis in Two Hours: How to Master (and RE-Master) the Fundamentals and Play Like the Pros. (Oscar Wegner, Steven Ferry).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071437177/qid=1138876884/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/203-1918785-5725537

and secondly,

Winning Ugly: Mental Warfare in Tennis-Lessons from a Master.
(Brad Gilbert, Steve Jamison).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/067188400X/qid=1138876932/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_3_6/203-1918785-5725537

Any comments would be appreciated.
 
Winning Ugly is a very very V E R Y good book. There are many good hints and thoughts that Brad shares with the reader. Some of the advice is pretty basic but when it come to the mental part, it is very interesting to read how to play certain points etc...

I have read it 2 times on German and 3 times in english :)

Buy that straight away. A must for every tennisplayer:mrgreen:
 
I agree, Winning Ugly is a good read, if nothing else will make you think more about what you are doing - did for me.
 
Cheers for the replies. I will be ordering it soon.

Has no one read the first book I mentioned. It looks interesting and has a couple of good reviews on amazon, but it seems fairly radical. But I suppose I don't need to take it all to heart and just keep the good bits (If there is any).

Cheers,
Warren.
 

crazylevity

Hall of Fame
I've read the first book. It is good, and focuses on some fundamentals that one should keep in mind to bring your game to a higher level.
 

Freedom

Professional
I like "I've got Your Back" by Brad Gilbert. It's about strategy for tennis, life, and business, but he uses tennis stories to illustrate his points.
 

DashaandSafin

Hall of Fame
Ive read Winning Ugly numerous times. Its pretty fun to read as Gilbert is a pretty humorous man. I purchased the book on the way to China and i can say it kept me entertained for the 20 hr plane flight there.
Highly Recommended.
Also, can anyone give a review on Ive Got Your Back?
 

vllockhart

Rookie
I just have to laugh at the name "jim courier's fluffy hair." Hysterical. And at that cat pic. As Mr. Burns would say Hi-larious!
 

Grimjack

Banned
WU is a worthwhile read if: A) you play tournament tennis, and play it seriously, and B) you struggle with the mental part of your game. It outlines some basic strategies you can use, and spends a whole lot of time telling you how to master the fine art of gamesmanship.

I personally found the Wegner book more useless than teats on a bull moose. Like any how-to/self-help book, it'll depend to a large extent whether the methods match your psyche. But I couldn't see how it would be especially useful to anybody beyond 3.0.
 

Grimjack

Banned
FWIW, I found "Winning Tennis" by...Williams? I think? To be a worthwhile read if you're a model-and-repeat type of learner, and any of the various books containing descriptions of the Wardlaw directionals to be essential to anybody 5.0 or lower who hasn't been introduced to the material. (Chuck Kriese's book is the one I usually recommend.)
 
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VolleyandServer

Guest
Also, look into a book called "World Class Tennis Technique". It does an excellent job explaining the modern technique. It explains the science and goes deep into biomechanics involved behind modern tennis strokes.
 

Grimjack

Banned
Cigo said:
I recommend adding this book to your collection as well, The Inner Game of Tennis:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679778314/qid=1138892273/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_2_7/202-5545198-9194247

:D
Contains a valuable idea, but it would be a shame to spend hard-earned money on this, when the entire content of the book can be summed up in a few words.

Cliff's Notes:

Practice is all good and well, but on gameday, forget about all that noise, and just relax and play. You'll do better. It's been proven.

Repeat 10,000x, or often enough to fill a book, whichever sells better.

Again, not to dispute the material's usefulness -- just its quantity.
 

Cigo

Rookie
True the idea is simple and it could have taken less to explain it. I found the book useful notheless. Having several books is really the best way to go. Exclude what you don't need and use the rest. ;)
 

Grimjack

Banned
Cigo said:
True the idea is simple and it could have taken less to explain it. I found the book useful notheless. Having several books is really the best way to go. Exclude what you don't need and use the rest. ;)
I agree it's useful, and was based on what was truly a ground breaking study of human performance psychology at the time.

I just feel it would be a shame to dish out a book's worth of expense and time when everything useful could be shared in ten seconds on an internet message board. If one is interested in all the "why" and examples of successful case studies, then it'd be worth the read. But if one just wants what one can apply to one's own life and game, the blurb above pretty much covers it. That's all I'm saying.
 

tennisnj

Professional
As A high school tennis coach, I have handed out a copy of "Winning Ugly" book to EACH of my graduating seniors. It's basically a printed version of Brad Gilbert ideas I've been using as a motivator & coach. I've been coaching the team for 6 years, & on average there's 3-4 seniors a year, so I estimate buying 18-24 copies of the book not including the 3 I've owned over the years. Even if the students aren't going on to playing tennis @ a higher level, or even socially right away, they can refer back to it if they chose to play again later in life.
 

Grimjack

Banned
tennisnj said:
As A high school tennis coach, I have handed out a copy of "Winning Ugly" book to EACH of my graduating seniors. It's basically a printed version of Brad Gilbert ideas I've been using as a motivator & coach. I've been coaching the team for 6 years, & on average there's 3-4 seniors a year, so I estimate buying 18-24 copies of the book not including the 3 I've owned over the years. Even if the students aren't going on to playing tennis @ a higher level, or even socially right away, they can refer back to it if they chose to play again later in life.
Graduating seniors?

If you find it useful, why not hand it out to the freshmen, so they can adapt it to help the team instead of after they're gone?
 

tennisnj

Professional
I don't hand it to the freshmen b/c I extol it daily during practice. I don't preach from it like a bible, but simply say things like "This works for me & other players I have trained & coached over the years, & I've got many of the ideas from this book." They hear enough of it from me when I make suggestions from it. I give them as gifts so they can refer back to it anytime they want. They're not going to rememeber that on April 2nd, first match of the season, Coach said "blah blah blah", so now they'll be able to look through the book & take from it what they want.
 
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