Wouldn't it be the best to postpone the AO now?

merwy

G.O.A.T.
Let Djokovic and the Australian government fight it out before the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
And we all here have soem entertainment which is far more interesting than these boring tennis matches.
That’s the other side of the world lol. Can’t they just fight it out where they are right now?
 

Gazelle

G.O.A.T.
It's becoming clear in comment sections, social media and websites that Djokovic's fan base is now more ideologically driven and that he is attracting people who self-identify with the ideological space they imagine him to represent.

The people who support him going forward, will likely be doing so on national/ethnic grounds (clear limits geographically and demographically) or because they view Novak as one of their own ideologically.
It's funny how your ideology thread was removed before a single comment could be posted.

Now you start posting the same sht here.
 

Cupcake

Professional
Sure, postpone the AO. I'm sure all the other players would love that. Especially the lower ranked ones who would lose lots of money from already spent transportation and lodging costs.

The people who support him going forward, will likely be doing so on national/ethnic grounds (clear limits geographically and demographically) or because they view Novak as one of their own ideologically.
And once he is out of the news, and whenever his career is finished, many will disappear as quickly as they appeared.

I probably know more about his game (which I've always liked) than many of them. They are not here for the tennis, but other causes.
 

intrepidish

Professional

Well, it's becoming clear in comment sections, social media and websites that Djokovic's fan base is now more ideologically driven and that he is attracting people who self-identify with the ideological space they imagine him to represent.

The people who support him going forward, will likely be doing so on national/ethnic grounds (clear limits geographically and demographically) or because they view Novak as one of their own ideologically.
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
And once he is out of the news, and whenever his career is finished, many will disappear as quickly as they appeared.

I probably know more about his game (which I've always liked) than many of them. They are not here for the tennis, but other causes.
The same can be said about droves of new haters he's gained in the last week or so, thanks to a disinformation war waged by the media to paint him as the villain. There are people who never followed tennis who came in just to attack him

That's not mentioning his tennis haters, who have always disliked him, and are now using this as an excuse to kick him some more while he's down
 

Cupcake

Professional
Let Djokovic and the Australian government fight it out before the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
Great idea, lol. I'm sure that would be totally finished by the time of Djokovic's first match on Monday.

Djokovic just wants to play in Australia and doesn't give a **** about his 'principles' or anything else.
 

intrepidish

Professional
The same can be said about droves of new haters he's gained in the last week or so, thanks to a disinformation war from the media to paint him as the villain. There are people who never followed tennis who came in just to attack him

That's not mentioning his tennis haters, who have always disliked him, and are now using this as an excuse to kick him some more while he's down
Djokovic has alienated far many more disinterested observers than he has gained them. He is becoming intensely supported by a more and more narrow and ideologically driven base.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
Well, it's becoming clear in comment sections, social media and websites that Djokovic's fan base is now more ideologically driven and that he is attracting people who self-identify with the ideological space they imagine him to represent.

The people who support him going forward, will likely be doing so on national/ethnic grounds (clear limits geographically and demographically) or because they view Novak as one of their own ideologically.
There are a lot of people on other forums saying they used to support him but no more. Of course some of that might be in bad faith but probably not all.

We forget that for a lot of people who say they're fans of someone, that means they cheer for them at Grand Slams but barely think about them the rest of the time. It's all those casual fans that he's lost.
 

R. Schweikart

Professional
Most people got their vaccine not even a year ago. Why are you assuming there can't be side effects after 5 years? If the scientists are sure that's unlikely, then they also should have been able to know the vaccines would wane in efficacy and also become less effective at reducing spread. They didn't know that ...
Total nonsense.
Almost all scientists said that the Covid vaccines most probably would not give a life-long protection.
 

Purestriker

Professional
Australia has no business hosting international sporting events if they can't figure out how to get the world's best athletes into their country without humiliating them and creating a gigantic firestorm. Move it to Florida or anywhere else where freedom still exists.
I say no, keep it there but if you are going someplace else, maybe not Florida. Just google Florida man or women and hit enter. Plus they already have half the sunshine double in Miami.
 
There are a lot of people on other forums saying they used to support him but no more. Of course some of that might be in bad faith but probably not all.

We forget that for a lot of people who say they're fans of someone, that means they cheer for them at Grand Slams but barely think about them the rest of the time. It's all those casual fans that he's lost.
I have cheered for Djokovic quite a few times over the years. (*) I will not do so again.

* I wouldn't say I supported him. I actually haven't had a real favorite in decades. But he was one of my preferred players.
 

bogdan101

Semi-Pro
that's just somewhat overblown sentiment, I was born in Melbourne and still live here now, as long as you had followed the rules and got vaxxed then everything is same as usual, yes we did have the most days in lockdown of anywhere in the world but things are back to normal now, the irony is that if they let Djokovic play then that means the government is in fact incompetent because they can't even follow their own rules by favoring the famous Djokovic and letting him into Aus and to play the AO
Uncontrolled omicron outbreak - check; covid hospitalizations at an all time high - check. Yep, sounds like back to normal to me.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
I have cheered for Djokovic quite a few times over the years. (*) I will not do so again.

* I wouldn't say I supported him. I actually haven't had a real favorite in decades. But he was one of my preferred players.
I cheered for him in the 2011 Wimbledon Final (not entirely for noble reasons!) but I did think his tennis was amazing in that.

I don't agree with his anti-vax stance but that's not the reason I've lost respect for him in this saga - it's watching him demean himself with this web of ridiculous excuses and (likely) falsehoods. He has plenty of time to win more slams - Federer managed three in his late thirties and Novak doesn't have himself as competition. It can't be worth what he's lost in his own self-respect to win this one "right now".
 
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