Wow this place is unbelievably calm. Federer fans take NOTE.

powerangle

Legend
I slept in late today, woke up and saw Federer lost and couldn't believe it. I wanted to see him go deep, and would have been fine with him winning. Really not happy about this upset at all, and hope he comes back strong. For those Federer fans that followed the match live, I can't imagine how much agony it was to see him lose 3 sets after being up 2! Had to be horrifying. He will bounce back though hopefully. But please take note of how calm this place is. I haven't seen a single thread from a "*******" dissing Federer, his loss, or talking crap. If Rafa somehow loses this match to Fish, this board will OVERFLOW with haters and venomous threads from vile trolls on here. We would really, really like the same respect from here on out. You guys can be insane. Proud of you Nadal fans, obviously I haven't read every post within match threads and someone of course will have said something stupid. But overall, this place really looks good, and im proud of u guys for being the better men today.

Federer fans take note?? Like all Fed fans troll around with anti-Nadal hatred? I know you mean well, but please cool it down with the blanket statements. Just like there are some bad seeds in the Nadal camp ("*******s"), there will be some bad ones in the Federer camp ("*******s")....but "Federer fans" like we're some collective hating group? Um...nope. :)
 

SStrikerR

Hall of Fame
It's a MichaelNadal thread, of course it's going to be stupid trolling.

Here's the thing, if it was a neutral poster saying this (ie, not a Fed or Nadal fan) I would be okay with it. That and the post not being so stupid, but that's besides the point. But, coming from a Nadal fan, it's worthless because of bias. So whatever, move along people.
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
Ech, Rafa will go through the same thing Roger's going through, they're both classy guys, maybe the internet forums are starting to get some etiquette and the more incendiary posters on both sides are starting to grow up a bit.

Rafa's body is like having several time bombs strapped on. They will go off in any time and I have a feeling when that happens Rafa will say good bye to the game for a while, then tried to make an unsuccessful return before retiring for good.

Fed's case is more gradual.

That's why so many top athletes goes out early.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.
I slept in late today, woke up and saw Federer lost and couldn't believe it. I wanted to see him go deep, and would have been fine with him winning. Really not happy about this upset at all, and hope he comes back strong. For those Federer fans that followed the match live, I can't imagine how much agony it was to see him lose 3 sets after being up 2! Had to be horrifying. He will bounce back though hopefully. But please take note of how calm this place is. I haven't seen a single thread from a "*******" dissing Federer, his loss, or talking crap. If Rafa somehow loses this match to Fish, this board will OVERFLOW with haters and venomous threads from vile trolls on here. We would really, really like the same respect from here on out. You guys can be insane. Proud of you Nadal fans, obviously I haven't read every post within match threads and someone of course will have said something stupid. But overall, this place really looks good, and im proud of u guys for being the better men today.

You make a good observation, but as a neutral tennis fan I must say I am not that surprised. When Nadal loses a slam match, an explosion of trolling and neurotic jubilation and hysteria is expected to ensue. Nadal fans, on the other hand, tend to be classy, tennis-knowledgeable, and well-mannered, so it is not that surprising that the discussion remains civil and proceeds as usual. Besides, I don’t think anyone could reasonably expect Tsonga to lose to Fred after taking out Dimitrov.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I slept in late today, woke up and saw Federer lost and couldn't believe it. I wanted to see him go deep, and would have been fine with him winning. Really not happy about this upset at all, and hope he comes back strong. For those Federer fans that followed the match live, I can't imagine how much agony it was to see him lose 3 sets after being up 2! Had to be horrifying. He will bounce back though hopefully. But please take note of how calm this place is. I haven't seen a single thread from a "*******" dissing Federer, his loss, or talking crap. If Rafa somehow loses this match to Fish, this board will OVERFLOW with haters and venomous threads from vile trolls on here. We would really, really like the same respect from here on out. You guys can be insane. Proud of you Nadal fans, obviously I haven't read every post within match threads and someone of course will have said something stupid. But overall, this place really looks good, and im proud of u guys for being the better men today.
Excellent post.

1. There are already enough posts against Federer. Perhaps, you've just woken up.

2. Nadal fans are probably just waiting for Nadal to win WO before they unleash their attack. Good move. Afraid that if he loses, they'll get their medicine back! But rest assured, WO is Nadal's. Victory is assured.

Are the Nadal fans afraid of Djoker beating Nadal ??? Is that why they haven;t come all out with their vitriol ???
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
It's a MichaelNadal thread, of course it's going to be stupid trolling.

Here's the thing, if it was a neutral poster saying this (ie, not a Fed or Nadal fan) I would be okay with it. That and the post not being so stupid, but that's besides the point. But, coming from a Nadal fan, it's worthless because of bias. So whatever, move along people.

Whatever guy, everyone isn't going to get what im saying, I knew that when I posted, and im ok with that. If you think im a troll, obviously you don't know me so you're DOA from the start with me anyway.
 

bismark

Rookie
Tsonga played a great game with fighting spirit and determination. Federer choked in the closing stages. *******s can give all the excuses they want, and even bash Nadal, Djokovic or anyone else to make themselves feel better. But at least give Tsonga some credit.
 

rafan

Hall of Fame
There is nothing thick-skinned about arguing on the internet, it doesn't require a thick skin, it requires taking offence at every imaginary dig, and it also doesn't require a backbone, as it's under a blanket of anonymity.

I am not talking about the internet. Following your chosen player means sharing the wins and losses irrespective of what others think and supporting them all the time
 

Fedex

Legend
I am not talking about the internet. Following your chosen player means sharing the wins and losses irrespective of what others think and supporting them all the time

And generally supporting Federer and Nadal means you share wins nearly 100% of the time.
 

fps

Legend
I am not talking about the internet. Following your chosen player means sharing the wins and losses irrespective of what others think and supporting them all the time

Ah I see. I can see how if you support a player for whom anything less than winning a tournament is a disappointment that might be the case.

However, even the players I like who are right near the top, Djokovic and Federer, I enjoy watching because of their tennis more than the outcome of their matches. Even when Federer loses, it's usually because the other player has played brilliantly, even now (FO final Rafa was superb, Tsonga played blistering tennis yesterday). I also loved watching Safin for the first 75% of any match he played in his last few years on tour, Santoro I adored, Malisse I'll always watch, Del Potro, it's more about the tennis for me.

Desperately disappointed not to see your man Rafa this year, was going to but my schedule changed, I feel once I've seen him in person I'll be won over to his style. I'm in awe of him, but I find his style difficult to love.
 

LeoMOMO

Rookie
when it comes to human rationality, i wouldn't use age as an indicator. This forum is great testament to that.

Indeed.


In this forum, some of Roger fans often call "*******s" to Nadal fans and never call "*******s" of yourself.
I find it's silly views.

You know, your words are a mirror of yourself. :???:



This board is a Nadal hater paradise as the moderators are even in on it with letting many of those threads fly, but quickly take down things that are negative towards Roger.

Yeah, I noticed it, too. lol.
 
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onyxrose81

Hall of Fame
I'm beyond rolling my eyes right now at a lot of Fed fans. I'm feeling so very sorry that a 16-time Slam champion lost. I know it sucks to see your player lose but when that player is about to turn 30, that's sort of inevitable. He's had an unbelievable run, cemented his place in history. Roger's just not dominant any longer.
 

rafan

Hall of Fame
Ah I see. I can see how if you support a player for whom anything less than winning a tournament is a disappointment that might be the case.

However, even the players I like who are right near the top, Djokovic and Federer, I enjoy watching because of their tennis more than the outcome of their matches. Even when Federer loses, it's usually because the other player has played brilliantly, even now (FO final Rafa was superb, Tsonga played blistering tennis yesterday). I also loved watching Safin for the first 75% of any match he played in his last few years on tour, Santoro I adored, Malisse I'll always watch, Del Potro, it's more about the tennis for me.

Desperately disappointed not to see your man Rafa this year, was going to but my schedule changed, I feel once I've seen him in person I'll be won over to his style. I'm in awe of him, but I find his style difficult to love.

I don't just support Nadal and am constantly promoting new players as the game needs them so much. I can say that I have supported many in my time on this site. Tomic I thought was brilliant yesterday and so was Del Potro, even though he lost. Was very saddened to see Federer go out as I still think the 2008 finals was the best ever played and if anyone watches them now it is still hard to know who will win. So I feel a sadness about most of the good hard working players losing as I do about Rafa. What worries me is who will continue in the same way that the top ones have at the moment
 

fps

Legend
I don't just support Nadal and am constantly promoting new players as the game needs them so much. I can say that I have supported many in my time on this site. Tomic I thought was brilliant yesterday and so was Del Potro, even though he lost. Was very saddened to see Federer go out as I still think the 2008 finals was the best ever played and if anyone watches them now it is still hard to know who will win. So I feel a sadness about most of the good hard working players losing as I do about Rafa. What worries me is who will continue in the same way that the top ones have at the moment

It is a genuine concern, no-one wants to feel that the link to these great players is lost, and then another generation comes up and no-one can gauge whether they're any good.
 

ruerooo

Legend
Desperately disappointed not to see your man Rafa this year, was going to but my schedule changed, I feel once I've seen him in person I'll be won over to his style.


You will. There's nothing like watching Rafa control the ball in the wind (unless it's watching Roger wind up his fearhand).
 
Well I think we have to agree to disagree on this one. Over the top Rafa fans are just as bad as over the top Fed fans. The Rafa fans "claim" to respect Federer but that does not stop them from dissing him every chance they get. A lot of them are hypocrites in this area. They are the type that tell you to your face that you are wonderful but then behind your back the knife comes out. Phony baloney. Of course I am not referring to you or other sane *******s. There are about 5 that are bat$h-t crazy. Then there are the ones that are more subtle and finally there are a few who like both Nadal and Federer.
Also true, imo. Exept, a lot of people, probably the majority, like both Federer and Nadal. But ofcourse they dont post as much as the more rabiate "fans".
 
Indeed. In this forum, some of Roger fans often call "*******s" to Nadal fans and never call "*******s" of yourself. I find it's silly views.
You know, your words are a mirror of yourself. :???:
Well this certainly goes both ways. But I agree, very stupid to use namecalling if you are critisizing others.
 
And I must say I dont find it very mature to start a thread were you celebrate your own maturity/humbleness and bash others... Sort of shooting yourself in the foot from the start.
 

Fedex

Legend
What worries me is who will continue in the same way that the top ones have at the moment

It is a genuine concern, no-one wants to feel that the link to these great players is lost, and then another generation comes up and no-one can gauge whether they're any good.

When Borg lost to McEnroe in '82, I nearly smashed the tv screen in a fit of rage knowing the greatest hero in the history of tennis was finnished.
Then went to my tennis club and started smashing up the changing room, taking care not to rip an iconic poster of Borg then set upon the snobby, middle, class, exclusive pr*cks who made my life a misery and whose type are a major reason that Britain hasn't produced a Slam winner for 75 years.
You should let it out bro, let it out.
 

ruerooo

Legend
I don't just support Nadal and am constantly promoting new players as the game needs them so much. I can say that I have supported many in my time on this site. Tomic I thought was brilliant yesterday and so was Del Potro, even though he lost. Was very saddened to see Federer go out as I still think the 2008 finals was the best ever played and if anyone watches them now it is still hard to know who will win. So I feel a sadness about most of the good hard working players losing as I do about Rafa. What worries me is who will continue in the same way that the top ones have at the moment

As you say yourself, Tomic was brilliant (even though he will still have to go some to shed the BrATomic label for me).

Delpo is wonderful, and no one thought he would be back.

Raonic and Sasha will be wonderful as soon as they get a handle on successfully managing the illness/injury issues (we all have them; they're just on the world stage).

Harrison has the talent; he just needs to stop abusing umpires.

You know the Spaniards have a deep bench, and they're grooming Andujar as fast as they can.

And also? No one saw Rafa coming at 19. And if he can have it his way, he's not going anywhere.

Nor is Roger. He loves to play; he loves the crowds; he loves the life.

Perhaps a little faith.
 

sberman51

Rookie
Just looked at the Match Statistics...Federer won in all of the categories, except obviously Break-Point Conversions (Fed was down two conversions)... How is it even possible that Tsonga won?!?!
 

Fedex

Legend
I wanted to see the top 4 square off and for another Fedal final with Federer winning.

This board is a Nadal hater paradise as the moderators are even in on it with letting many of those threads fly, but quickly take down things that are negative towards Roger.

If you think things like JoelDali's two dogs humping image wasn't negative and irrelevant enough then whatever takes your fancy.
 

mcenroefan

Hall of Fame
The Fed haters are already out en masse....hammering at him for his post match interview, playing in a weak era, etc, etc.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
The hate is getting more intense, if Nadal makes it past Murray and then for the win expect it to get really really bad. I predict a lot of Nards and ****s being banned.

Right now the ****s are absolutely pray for either 1) Nadal injury to take him out or 2) for Nadal to falter and lose.

Other than than they only have spite and hate.
 

ruerooo

Legend
Are you serious?
Everyone saw Nadal coming at 16 nevermind 19.

Rafa may have turned pro at 15, but not everyone is you, so not everyone knows he was who he was by the time he was 16.

I know of people who didn't know who he was till he won his Career Golden last year.

I'm going to give you a little room to be snappy and crabby, since I can guess who you're a fan of based on your username.

But way to pick out one thing to argue -- which is still arguable, as opposed to incorrect -- out of a string of things I was listing to try and cheer up some other people, as a way of ... what? Asserting your dominance?

Come on.

:roll:
 

ruerooo

Legend
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The hate is getting more intense,[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Yes. Yes, it is. I really didn't think it could get any worse -- and I support Roger too -- but yeah, it's really getting ridiculous.[/FONT]

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if Nadal makes it past Murray and then for the win expect it to get really really bad.
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[FONT=&quot]I'm afraid you may be right.[/FONT]

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I predict a lot of Nards and ****s being banned.
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[FONT=&quot]We can only hope.[/FONT]

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Right now the ****s are absolutely pray for either 1) Nadal injury to take him out or 2) for Nadal to falter and lose.
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[FONT=&quot]Not only has it gotten that bad, but they don't even really realize they're actually wishing for him to be hurt worse than he already is.[/FONT]

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Other than than they only have spite and hate.
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[FONT=&quot]It really is getting unreasonable, isn't it? I felt like inviting some people on another board to try to reach out to Dr. Muñoz for the radiologist records, since they were JUST ... SOOOO SURE he wasn't hurt AT ALL.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He's playing at less than 100%, which is something I'm really worried about, because, as any athlete knows, you can really injure something when you're numbed up to play, and not discover the real damage you've caused till later.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He's talked about taking a month, and possibly a month and a half, off after Wimbledon. I certainly approve of a month, but I was planning on going to the Rogers Cup ... :?[/FONT]
 

DragonBlaze

Hall of Fame
Rafa may have turned pro at 15, but not everyone is you, so not everyone knows he was who he was by the time he was 16.

I know of people who didn't know who he was till he won his Career Golden last year.

I'm going to give you a little room to be snappy and crabby, since I can guess who you're a fan of based on your username.

But way to pick out one thing to argue -- which is still arguable, as opposed to incorrect -- out of a string of things I was listing to try and cheer up some other people, as a way of ... what? Asserting your dominance?

Come on.

:roll:

Fedex is actually an ex-Fed fan. He believes in the Muurya now. :D
 

ruerooo

Legend
Fedex is actually an ex-Fed fan. He believes in the Muurya now. :D

It doesn't matter to me who he's a fan of so much as that he yanked a little thing that wasn't even a fact, but an arguable opinion, out of a comment intended to cheer people up who were doing the Eeyore.

Crabby, crabby, crabby, and for no reason.

I just ... didn't see the reasoning behind that. Still don't.

:?
 

The Hermit

Semi-Pro
Why are you guys so sad in this thread. Fed lost to a player who was possibly playing the best match of his life.
And all you guys act like his career is over. Federer will come back, as if we never see it before. When Fed lost in 2009 AO,
many people said he would never win a slam again, and boom, he won the RG (finally) and Wimbledon, yes I know with the absence of Rafa. Then he went to the final of US Open and lost to an on-fire Del Potro ( the only guy who defeat Fedal in a slam ) . Later he won the 2010 AO. In fact, he made 4 consecutive Finals after everybody said he is done.

Same with Rafa, during 1st part of 2010 season, people said he would never win a slam again, some people even joked about him when he did the MV with Shakira. And guess what happened, Rafa won the next three slams. My point is, do not doubt Federer and Nadal, if anyone can come back, it is these two all time greats.
 

Fedex

Legend
It doesn't matter to me who he's a fan of so much as that he yanked a little thing that wasn't even a fact, but an arguable opinion, out of a comment intended to cheer people up who were doing the Eeyore.

Crabby, crabby, crabby, and for no reason.

I just ... didn't see the reasoning behind that. Still don't.

:?

Look I don't know how I came across but the fact is, ok my opinion is, and probably most other people would agree with this, that Nadal was the talk of the town years before his first Slam.
He was about 19 when he won his first so he was obviously knocking on the door a long time before that.
All the experts and commentators kept talking about this guy.
Players were sh*ting themsleves thinking about facing him long before his first slam.
Nadal had a major fear factor going on even then. Actually, in a way, probably more than today.
It was perceived as a near cert that Nadal was going to dominate.
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Now it would be nice if the Rafa fans stopped discrediting Neo all over the place. One standard for all.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
See what I mean. Nadal lost and every thread on this board is trolling him. Ridiculous. Loses 1 out of the last 8 GS finals he plays and this place goes to troll-land.
 

ruerooo

Legend
Look I don't know how I came across but the fact is, ok my opinion is, and probably most other people would agree with this, that Nadal was the talk of the town years before his first Slam.
He was about 19 when he won his first so he was obviously knocking on the door a long time before that.
All the experts and commentators kept talking about this guy.
Players were sh*ting themsleves thinking about facing him long before his first slam.
Nadal had a major fear factor going on even then. Actually, in a way, probably more than today.
It was perceived as a near cert that Nadal was going to dominate.

See, this is where you keep falling down.

The perception of Rafa is not the problem. You are the problem.

You didn't even read what I wrote either time -- though by now I guess I shouldn't be surprised -- in that

a) you were excessively critical
b) the two populations of whom we spoke are completely different

and

c) you're still not even getting the last part because you were so eager to run right back in with your opinion that you've managed to lapse into Advanced Reading Comprehension Fail.

Anyway. Moving on.

:roll:
 

Fedex

Legend
The discussion is simple Ruerooo.
You said Nadal blew onto the scene to most people's surprise age 19.
And I'm saying most people saw it coming from age 16 and possibly even before.
What else is this about?
 

ViscaB

Hall of Fame
This place have been calm from the side of Nadal fans taking the loss with grace. Ah well that's not for all;). Some people like to cry their heart out.
 

ruerooo

Legend
The discussion is simple Ruerooo.
You said Nadal blew onto the scene to most people's surprise age 19.
And I'm saying most people saw it coming from age 16 and possibly even before.
What else is this about?


What part of


c) you're still not even getting the last part because you were so eager to run right back in with your opinion that you've managed to lapse into Advanced Reading Comprehension Fail.

Anyway. Moving on.


are you not getting?

Never mind. Don't answer that.

It's quite clear: All of it.

Some of us are really trying to move on, Eeyore. Come on. Come with.

:roll:
:roll:
 

Fedex

Legend
What part of

are you not getting?

Never mind. Don't answer that.

It's quite clear: All of it.

Some of us are really trying to move on

And also? No one saw Rafa coming at 19. And if he can have it his way, he's not going anywhere.

What part of the bit you said in bold don't you understand?
There's nothing to move on here.
There's no bad feelings at all, I'd just like to discuss this.
Can you tell me why you think no one saw Nadal coming at age 19?
Forget everything else.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
The discussion is simple Ruerooo.
You said Nadal blew onto the scene to most people's surprise age 19.
And I'm saying most people saw it coming from age 16 and possibly even before.
What else is this about?

Wow, not even close. Even after Nadal won 5 slams people were still underrating him saying he won't do this and that.

Almost no one but those close to Nadal thought he would make such a strike.
 

Fedex

Legend
Wow, not even close. Even after Nadal won 5 slams people were still underrating him saying he won't do this and that.

Almost no one but those close to Nadal thought he would make such a strike.

In April 2002, at 15 years and 10 months, the world No. 762 Nadal won his first ATP match, defeating Ramón Delgado, and became the ninth player in the open era to do so before the age of 16. The following year, Nadal won two Challenger titles and finished the year in the top 50. At his Wimbledon debut in 2003, Nadal became the youngest man to reach the third round since Boris Becker in 1984. During 2004, Nadal played his first match against world No. 1 Roger Federer at the 2004 Miami Masters, and won in straight sets.
 

Breaker

Legend
Wow, not even close. Even after Nadal won 5 slams people were still underrating him saying he won't do this and that.

Almost no one but those close to Nadal thought he would make such a strike.

Federer has won 16 slams and people still underrate him saying he wouldn't have done this and that if not for (insert excuse here).
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
In April 2002, at 15 years and 10 months, the world No. 762 Nadal won his first ATP match, defeating Ramón Delgado, and became the ninth player in the open era to do so before the age of 16. The following year, Nadal won two Challenger titles and finished the year in the top 50. At his Wimbledon debut in 2003, Nadal became the youngest man to reach the third round since Boris Becker in 1984. During 2004, Nadal played his first match against world No. 1 Roger Federer at the 2004 Miami Masters, and won in straight sets.

Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it LOL
 
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