Wozniacki to ever be ranked #1 again (even for a week).

Wozniacki to ever be ranked #1 again


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NadalAgassi

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This is a simple question. Will Wozniacki ever spend a single week ranked #1 ever again. My prediction would be no. Her career is about to go into a freefall downwards.

I wont even ask about her ever winning a slam since we all agree at this point that will never happen (funny how getting to #1 should be in theory harder than winning a slam, but not in the current WTA with its farcial ranking system and with some of the skilled ranking system abusers).
 

Homeboy Hotel

Hall of Fame
She shows no potential to be able to play aggressive tennis (aggressive enough to win slams) - however returning to No 1? Possibly, if she just cleans the tour with the non-slam tournaments.

However, competition is tough on the womens tour. An upset can some outta no where more so for the women's top seeds then the men, so I see that being a spanner in the works in stopping Wozniaki getting #1 again.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Given the massive amount of inconsistency on the womens tour today I actually wouldn't be surprised if she got there again, especially given how terrible she played post wimbledon last year save the US Open run she has room to actually earn a lot of points, and if she improves a little, she could do it. Will she...well thats another story but unless the rest of the tour steps up and plays consistently at and outside the majors she could very well get there again.
 

DeShaun

Banned
It's one thing for an old woman to wina slam, like Na, Serena, or Kim, quite another for a young woman like Kvitova or Azaranka to do so. The younger girls can match Woz stamina/fitness wise but also project the confidence/aura of having won a major tournament.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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Kvitova and Azarenka are going to reinvigorate the tour and bring it out of the doldrums. Maybe Wozniacki can hold on to them and hang with them but she'll have the least successful career of the three, surely. I think she will be ranked no.1 again but not for very long.
 

ChanceEncounter

Professional
You can't win a slam without a weapon. End of story.
Cool.

Any insight on the question posed by the OP?

I say it's possible. The WTA hasn't really changed their ridiculous ranking system, so she could always rack up a ton of points from lesser tournaments.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
Yes, because WTA ranking systems sucks.

Only a rolling 12 month GS winner should be able to come #1. Four contenders.
 

Gimmick

Semi-Pro
Yes, because WTA ranking systems sucks.

Only a rolling 12 month GS winner should be able to come #1. Four contenders.

Considering the fact that GS are the same best of three as every other tournament, to make them so valuable that they preclude all other events combined is facetious. I can't believe that you are serious about this.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Considering the fact that GS are the same best of three as every other tournament, to make them so valuable that they preclude all other events combined is facetious. I can't believe that you are serious about this.

Especially since under this proprosal Schiavone in 2010 and Stosur in 2011 would have a 1/4 shot of being number 1 in the world despite not doing a single thing besides happening to win a major during that year...oh and Schiavone won in Barcelona...yay.
 
Given the massive amount of inconsistency on the womens tour today I actually wouldn't be surprised if she got there again, especially given how terrible she played post wimbledon last year save the US Open run she has room to actually earn a lot of points, and if she improves a little, she could do it.
True, but on the other hand it will be nearly impossible for her to equal her 2011 pre-FO results. The most likely scenario is that she'll lose points in the first half of the year and add points from the FO onwards. If she plays well she'll probably end the season with a ranking similar to what it is now.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
WIth the current system....yes she will be number one again. It will be hard for Azarenka and Kvitova to maintain number one ranking....since they don't many lower end tournaments like Wozzy. They will have sucess in the majors. But like Wozzy smiling winning a pointless 250 on Hard Courts before entering Wimbledon.

Wozzy knew she will get the number one ranking back....she even said in her press conference that is what she aims for at the end. We will see at the end of the year who is World Number one.

I think she is not tired of being Number one in the world without a major!
 

NLBwell

Legend
The ranking system is fine. Lots of people want to change the system to give the result they want. I don't think people would agree on whether Clijsters, Li Na, Kvitova, or Stosur should be number 1. None of these women were consistent throughout the year. People just want to adjust the ranking system to get their favorite to be the top ranked. Also, Wozniaki's playing in lots of small tournaments doesn't help her ranking because there is a limit to the number of tournaments that count toward the ranking.
The limit is there in order to not force players to play all the time to keep their ranking. The points distribution for all tournaments is so the stars don't just play 4 to 6 tounaments a year, but actually support the tour creating fan interest and prize money in the other tournaments throughout the year.
If the other players aren't consistent enough to earn their way to #1, I don't see why it should be handed to them.
 

volleygirl

Rookie
Look at the how the matches fell for Kvitova at the AO and she still couldnt make the finals. If Woz were to get a draw like that and not even play a seeded player til the semis, she could win a major. Kvitova didnt play anyone til Sharapova and got spanked yet no one wants to rip her like they seem to want to rip Wozniacki.
 
The ranking system is fine. Lots of people want to change the system to give the result they want. I don't think people would agree on whether Clijsters, Li Na, Kvitova, or Stosur should be number 1. None of these women were consistent throughout the year. People just want to adjust the ranking system to get their favorite to be the top ranked. Also, Wozniaki's playing in lots of small tournaments doesn't help her ranking because there is a limit to the number of tournaments that count toward the ranking.
The limit is there in order to not force players to play all the time to keep their ranking.
The points distribution for all tournaments is so the stars don't just play 4 to 6 tounaments a year, but actually support the tour creating fan interest and prize money in the other tournaments throughout the year.
If the other players aren't consistent enough to earn their way to #1, I don't see why it should be handed to them.

But it does, because the tour takes your BEST results. If you play 30 tournaments, win 15 and lose in the 1st round in 15, the 15 best point totals (AKA the wins) will be counted. Wozniaki has consistently made up for poor performances in large events by playing in a ton of small ones, and it's why she was able to be #1 for an entire year without winning a slam or much else of any substance.
 

volleygirl

Rookie
But it does, because the tour takes your BEST results. If you play 30 tournaments, win 15 and lose in the 1st round in 15, the 15 best point totals (AKA the wins) will be counted. Wozniaki has consistently made up for poor performances in large events by playing in a ton of small ones, and it's why she was able to be #1 for an entire year without winning a slam or much else of any substance.


Is it some secret that none of the other players have been able to figure out? They all have the same opportunity to do it and for seome reason, they havent been able to do what Woz did for over a year straight.
 
Is it some secret that none of the other players have been able to figure out? They all have the same opportunity to do it and for seome reason, they havent been able to do what Woz did for over a year straight.
Besides, Wozniacki played a grand total of exactly one more tournament than the current #1 for the last twelve months.
 

jones101

Hall of Fame
Look at the how the matches fell for Kvitova at the AO and she still couldnt make the finals. If Woz were to get a draw like that and not even play a seeded player til the semis, she could win a major. Kvitova didnt play anyone til Sharapova and got spanked yet no one wants to rip her like they seem to want to rip Wozniacki.

This post is full of bull.

1. Kvitova gave her best result at the AO, and had a lot of pressure on her shoulders. She may have faltered against Sharapova its still a positve result. Kvitova is PROGRESSING, Wozniacki is REGRESSING.

2. Since when has a 3 set loss been deemed a 'spanking'. It was a close match, which was on Petra's racket most of the time. Did you even watch it? Do you watch tennis even?

3. Wozniacki has has dream draws on plenty of occasions, yet has come up short time and time again, so how can you slate Kvitova when Wozniacki thrives on sucn fortune?

4. Noone rips on Petra in the same way as she has a REIGNING GRAND SLAM CHAMPION. She has proven herself. She won Wimbledon, YEC, Fed Cup Champ, Premier Mandatory (Madrid), Premier Event (Paris) in the last 8 months. Wozniacki's best title was at IW. Petra has beaten her every big match they've played. Petra's 4th most prestigous title is on the same level as the (lol former) world number ones best.

So, to summise, Petra made progress at the AO, is still improving, and will likely achieve a lot.

Caroline seems to have peaked already, much in the manner Hingis did young, and any Pam, Flick or Carrie on the WTA feels they have a chance to beat her these days, as evidenced by some of her losses last year.

As for getting to number one again, It looks like Petrazkena combo will be putting up a big fight for it for a good while.
 

crazyups

Professional
This post is full of bull.

1. Kvitova gave her best result at the AO, and had a lot of pressure on her shoulders. She may have faltered against Sharapova its still a positve result. Kvitova is PROGRESSING, Wozniacki is REGRESSING.

2. Since when has a 3 set loss been deemed a 'spanking'. It was a close match, which was on Petra's racket most of the time. Did you even watch it? Do you watch tennis even?

3. Wozniacki has has dream draws on plenty of occasions, yet has come up short time and time again, so how can you slate Kvitova when Wozniacki thrives on sucn fortune?

4. Noone rips on Petra in the same way as she has a REIGNING GRAND SLAM CHAMPION. She has proven herself. She won Wimbledon, YEC, Fed Cup Champ, Premier Mandatory (Madrid), Premier Event (Paris) in the last 8 months. Wozniacki's best title was at IW. Petra has beaten her every big match they've played. Petra's 4th most prestigous title is on the same level as the (lol former) world number ones best.

So, to summise, Petra made progress at the AO, is still improving, and will likely achieve a lot.

Caroline seems to have peaked already, much in the manner Hingis did young, and any Pam, Flick or Carrie on the WTA feels they have a chance to beat her these days, as evidenced by some of her losses last year.

As for getting to number one again, It looks like Petrazkena combo will be putting up a big fight for it for a good while.
Good assessment. I think Lisicki can crash the party if she takes her conditioning to a higher level.
 
Kvitova and Azarenka are going to reinvigorate the tour and bring it out of the doldrums.

With all the screaming, the only thing coming out will be the viewers ear drums. It's not like azerenka just came to the scene or that kvitova is consistent. Last year she came into focus with the win and we all saw how well she did immediately after at US open. None of these players can handle pressure consistently and this is not going to change any time soon.

As for Wozniacki, I think she will return to no 1 as soon as end of this year or early next year.
 
With all the screaming, the only thing coming out will be the viewers ear drums. It's not like azerenka just came to the scene or that kvitova is consistent. Last year she came into focus with the win and we all saw how well she did immediately after at US open. None of these players can handle pressure consistently and this is not going to change any time soon.

As for Wozniacki, I think she will return to no 1 as soon as end of this year or early next year.
Since I'm a Woz fan I sincerely hope that you're right, but recent going's on suggest otherwise. Kvitova isn't the most consistent player on the tour, but wins at Wimbledon, the YEC and Fed Cup plus a AO semis is impressive by any standard, even though she went through a slump after Wimbledon. Azarenka's rise to the top hasn't been super spectacular, but she's been gradually getting better year after year. Radwanska and Lisicki also have improved over the last seven or eight months. Wozniacki is the only main contender of her age group who hasn't made any progress recently. This is pretty worrying at a time when some sort of pecking order is beginning to establish itself among her contemporaries.
 
Besides, Wozniacki played a grand total of exactly one more tournament than the current #1 for the last twelve months.

And that makes sense...Azarenka plays a fair amount of tournaments, and now she's number 1, but she won a grand slam to get there.

I don't understand why people take this as some personal attack on Woz. She was #1 for almost a year in a ranking system that rewards people that play a lot over people that do well at a few big events. While a lot of people don't like/understand it (myself included), she was #1 and no one can take that away from her.

I don't like Woz because I find her game boring and it's ridiculous that she gets to later rounds at big events and gets blown off the court. Now, she's appropriately ranked @ #4, and she has a chance for all the chatter about her to die down. Maybe she'll refocus and develop a weapon that can help her win big events.
 
And that makes sense...Azarenka plays a fair amount of tournaments, and now she's number 1, but she won a grand slam to get there.
Sure, but I don't have a problem with Azarenka as the #1 ranked player. It's a points system, she's got the most points - end of discussion as far as I'm concerned. I only wish that people would have given Woz the same courtesy while she was #1.

But just for the sake of argument - both Azarenka and Kvitova won a slam and Kvitova also won the YEC. But Azarenka played two more tournaments than Kvitova. If we would apply the same logic that everyone is always so eager to apply to Woz than Kvitova should be considered "the real" #1 right now. I don't subscribe to that, but I'm just sayin'.

I don't understand why people take this as some personal attack on Woz.
I don't know about this forum because I've only joined today, but as someone who is a member of several other tennis forums as well I can assure you that the negative comments on Wozniacki often go faaaaaaar beyond mere criticism of her tennis and often cross over to the territory of personal attacks and ridicule....definitely. That's also the main reason why I chose this mildly amusing user name. My favorite male player is Federer, but everyone loves Fed while they dislike Woz, so I figured that Woz is more in need of some visible support than the mighty Fed. :grin:
She was #1 for almost a year in a ranking system that rewards people that play a lot over people that do well at a few big events. While a lot of people don't like/understand it (myself included), she was #1 and no one can take that away from her.
Well, no matter what other player would have been number one during most of Caroline's reign - many people would have had just as big a problem with them. Serena and Clijsters were until very recently considered the two best players. But I don't see how it could be justified having a part-time player heading the rankings. Stosur did rather poorly before the USO and Li and Kvitova seemingly couldn't hit a ball between the lines anymore following their slam win. Let's not forget that Kvitova only became Kvitova again at the end of last year's season. Any of them being ranked #1 would have been just as controversial as having had Woz as number one - probably even more in fact.
I don't like Woz because I find her game boring...
Personally I don't find anyone's game boring. The're all good at what the're doing otherwise they wouldn't be where they are. So, if not attractive, the're all at least interesting. Having said that, sometimes when I look at some of the matches of those power hitters when they are in a 30 winners, 70 UE mode I think to myself, "why don't you find this attractive so that you can be as cool as everyone else?" :(
 
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NadalAgassi

Guest
Look at the how the matches fell for Kvitova at the AO and she still couldnt make the finals. If Woz were to get a draw like that and not even play a seeded player til the semis, she could win a major. Kvitova didnt play anyone til Sharapova and got spanked yet no one wants to rip her like they seem to want to rip Wozniacki.

Woz with Kvitova's draw would either have lost round of 16 to Ivanovic or gotten pounded to pieces by Sharapova in the semis. When is the last time she beat any decent player other than her BFF Radwanska in a 3 setter.
 

mrDamien

Hall of Fame
Wozniacki can be No 1 just maybe she don't even has a chance to win Grand Slam by playing so defensively behind the lines. She needs a change.
 

ChanceEncounter

Professional
I don't know why everyone bashes Wozniacki for playing defensively. You can play defensively and win. Djokovic, Murray, and Nadal both play defensively and win frequently.

The problem with Wozniacki isn't her defensive game, it's that she has no strong shot when she does get that short ball. When an elite defensive player gets a shortball, s/he pounces on it and drills a clean winner. When Wozniacki gets a short ball, she bloops an average shot that is more than likely returnable. She needs to develop at least one upper echelon weapon to be a grand slam contender.
 
I don't know why everyone bashes Wozniacki for playing defensively. You can play defensively and win. Djokovic, Murray, and Nadal both play defensively and win frequently.

The problem with Wozniacki isn't her defensive game, it's that she has no strong shot when she does get that short ball. When an elite defensive player gets a shortball, s/he pounces on it and drills a clean winner. When Wozniacki gets a short ball, she bloops an average shot that is more than likely returnable. She needs to develop at least one upper echelon weapon to be a grand slam contender.
This is partly true, she needs a bigger weapon. I think for ayone to play so many rallies neutral against Clijsters and to only get beaten on a great shot off a good rally ball is totally not giving Woz credit for her game. If anyone would give unbiased look at her game in that match they would see her serve was definitely improved, her ground strokes were consistently deep and less loopy than before and her return was more aggressive. I totally disagree with someone else's comment of Radwanska improving over the last 8 she is still a retriever too with a weaker serve. Also the point system is what it is. You have to play and perform in the big tourneys, the smaller ones come down to your best results, some play more to get the best results to add to the total, some are always injured and never play the smaller tourney.Its not a partime sport, and the ranking points actually favor the big winners, but you have to play the others and perform their too.
 

Masayoshi

Semi-Pro
Personally I don't find anyone's game boring. The're all good at what the're doing otherwise they wouldn't be where they are. So, if not attractive, the're all at least interesting. Having said that, sometimes when I look at some of the matches of those power hitters when they are in a 30 winners, 70 UE mode I think to myself, "why don't you find this attractive so that you can be as cool as everyone else?" :(

Hey, thanks for enlightening me on your Wozniacki fandom. Not being sarcastic at all, since I had trouble figuring out how people can like someone whose tennis is so safe and bland (besides hurr durr she's hot). Your point about her not missing shots all the time makes sense - if you hate players making tons of unforced errors, Woz is probably a really nice player to be a fan of.
 
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