Wrist/GE

[sportmac]

I'm old. I hit singles 6 days a week, hitting with 3.5's to 4.5's. Been having wrist problems for quite a few years from my ulnar bone being too long and impacting the TFCC. Apparently this can show up more as you age (if you believe those doctor people!).
I'm also getting arthritis all through my right hand.
And I have GE.
None of those give me enough pain to stop playing, though sometimes I have to stop for the day.

So for years I kept playing with more flexible racquets believing it would ease the wrist pain. Played with the EXO3 tour for most of those. Pain never went away, elbow was great.

When they first came out I tested the Tour 100T and surprisingly the wrist didn't hurt as much. So I switched to it (leaded up to 11.5). Elbow pain came back but not bad, wrist still hurt but not as bad.

I picked up the Prince Lightning 100 when it was on sale just to see what that played like. Wrist pain was minimal when I played with it, much less than with the more flexible 100T. I then leaded it up to 11.4 (in the handle and throat) and wrist pain is at all time low when hitting. Elbow screams.

Cripey. I don't know why this super stiff racquet is allowing me to play with such reduced pain in the wrist but I like it. Not so much the GE. I'd like to find something that reduces that GE while still almost eliminating the wrist pain (which apparently means stiffer). Of the two I'll take the GE pain over the wrist pain. I don't know if it's the balance or stiffness or what but I'm now hesitant to go too head light/flexy again.

Any ideas?

 

[NE1for10is?]

What strings are you using? Poly, gut or synth? Too stiff a string can often cause GE and TE.

 

[KickVicious]

I'm old. I hit singles 6 days a week, hitting with 3.5's to 4.5's. Been having wrist problems for quite a few years from my ulnar bone being too long and impacting the TFCC. Apparently this can show up more as you age (if you believe those doctor people!).
I'm also getting arthritis all through my right hand.
And I have GE.
None of those give me enough pain to stop playing, though sometimes I have to stop for the day.

So for years I kept playing with more flexible racquets believing it would ease the wrist pain. Played with the EXO3 tour for most of those. Pain never went away, elbow was great.

When they first came out I tested the Tour 100T and surprisingly the wrist didn't hurt as much. So I switched to it (leaded up to 11.5). Elbow pain came back but not bad, wrist still hurt but not as bad.

I picked up the Prince Lightning 100 when it was on sale just to see what that played like. Wrist pain was minimal when I played with it, much less than with the more flexible 100T. I then leaded it up to 11.4 (in the handle and throat) and wrist pain is at all time low when hitting. Elbow screams.

Cripey. I don't know why this super stiff racquet is allowing me to play with such reduced pain in the wrist but I like it. Not so much the GE. I'd like to find something that reduces that GE while still almost eliminating the wrist pain (which apparently means stiffer). Of the two I'll take the GE pain over the wrist pain. I don't know if it's the balance or stiffness or what but I'm now hesitant to go too head light/flexy again.

Any ideas?

Have you tried any of the foam filled racquets? Donnay does 2 week demos and you can also now demo Angell's Tour racquets in the States, I understand. I have some of each brand in hand to try tonight. Can't wait.

What strings/tensions are you using? I used to use a gut/poly hybrid but recently switched to gut/monogut ZX and it's working out great. Some trade offs, mainly the crisper feel of the poly, but my wrist doesn't hurt. Good luck!


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[sportmac]

What strings are you using? Poly, gut or synth? Too stiff a string can often cause GE and TE.

Polyfiber TCS 16 in the crosses at 50, Gosen Sheep Micro 16 in the mains at 55.

 

[sportmac]

Have you tried any of the foam filled racquets? Donnay does 2 week demos and you can also now demo Angell's Tour racquets in the States, I understand. I have some of each brand in hand to try tonight. Can't wait.

What strings/tensions are you using? I used to use a gut/poly hybrid but recently switched to gut/monogut ZX and it's working out great. Some trade offs, mainly the crisper feel of the poly, but my wrist doesn't hurt. Good luck!


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I've not hit with a Donnay in a long time. Thanks for the info on the demo's, I'm going to give them both a go.
Never tried the Ashaway ZX. Will give that a go as well.

 

[gvsbdisco]

I have had both wrist (TFCC) and GE and have owned and used:

- Prince Tour 100 16x18
- Prince Tour T ESP (16x16)
- Prince textreme 100T
- Donnay Tri Core Pro One 97

and the spin effect Tour T ESP was by quite a bit the easiest on the body. Yes you will blow through strings but it will keep you on the court. They don't make them anymore but i suspect you can get them cheap online somewhere. I play at ~4.0 level.

 

[zalive]

Try with OS racquets...

 

[Crocodile]

Why not try the Volkl Organix V1 Pro strung in gut or the Super G version. The other option is the Pro Kennex Ki 5 320. Also order one with a large grip, always play with new balls and stay away from wet courts. Add some turmeric to your cooking but only if your doctor approves off course. It has good anti-inflammatory properties and try playing every second day, not every day. Use ice and try an elbow support. Investigate possible strengthening exercises and technical improvement to decrease harmful forces on your body.

 

[djNEiGht]

...I hit singles 6 days a week, hitting with 3.5's to 4.5's. Been having wrist problems for quite a few years from my ulnar bone being too long and impacting the TFCC. Apparently this can show up more as you age (if you believe those doctor people!).
I'm also getting arthritis all through my right hand.
And I have GE.
None of those give me enough pain to stop playing, though sometimes I have to stop for the day.
...

Best regards to you in getting back to playing with no pain. As @Crocodile mentioned, try cutting down on how often you play or even take some significant time away from tennis.

We aren't professionals in the game so don't let this impact your daily activities of life. Do you only have pain when you play?

 

[sportmac]

I have had both wrist (TFCC) and GE and have owned and used:

- Prince Tour 100 16x18
- Prince Tour T ESP (16x16)
- Prince textreme 100T
- Donnay Tri Core Pro One 97

and the spin effect Tour T ESP was by quite a bit the easiest on the body. Yes you will blow through strings but it will keep you on the court. They don't make them anymore but i suspect you can get them cheap online somewhere. I play at ~4.0 level.

Never thought about the ESP's. I think I demo'd one when they first came out but didn't hit with it long. I could always use another racquet so what the hell, may pick one up on **** just to see. Why do you think that is, that it was easier on your body?

 

[sportmac]

Best regards to you in getting back to playing with no pain. As @Crocodile mentioned, try cutting down on how often you play or even take some significant time away from tennis.

We aren't professionals in the game so don't let this impact your daily activities of life. Do you only have pain when you play?

The wrist always has some pain, the GE only when I play and a bit afterward before icing. I'm fast approaching 70 and still have decent speed around the court so trying to enjoy it while it lasts! 2 summers ago I played every other day and would bike 20/30 miles on the other days. Biking turned out to hurt the wrist more than tennis so back to the court.

 

[sportmac]

Why not try the Volkl Organix V1 Pro strung in gut or the Super G version. The other option is the Pro Kennex Ki 5 320. Also order one with a large grip, always play with new balls and stay away from wet courts. Add some turmeric to your cooking but only if your doctor approves off course. It has good anti-inflammatory properties and try playing every second day, not every day. Use ice and try an elbow support. Investigate possible strengthening exercises and technical improvement to decrease harmful forces on your body.

Tx. Going to try the Super G and Kennex.

 

[gvsbdisco]

Never thought about the ESP's. I think I demo'd one when they first came out but didn't hit with it long. I could always use another racquet so what the hell, may pick one up on **** just to see. Why do you think that is, that it was easier on your body?

Its a good question. I suspect its a combination of ports, super open string pattern, built-in dampener and maybe my timing was a bit better because it was lighter. The tour 100 has a lower RA but higher swing weight but for me the 16x16 was an even more plush ride. Good luck.

 

[bkr]

I'm old. I hit singles 6 days a week, hitting with 3.5's to 4.5's. Been having wrist problems for quite a few years from my ulnar bone being too long and impacting the TFCC. Apparently this can show up more as you age (if you believe those doctor people!).
I'm also getting arthritis all through my right hand.
And I have GE.
None of those give me enough pain to stop playing, though sometimes I have to stop for the day.

So for years I kept playing with more flexible racquets believing it would ease the wrist pain. Played with the EXO3 tour for most of those. Pain never went away, elbow was great.

When they first came out I tested the Tour 100T and surprisingly the wrist didn't hurt as much. So I switched to it (leaded up to 11.5). Elbow pain came back but not bad, wrist still hurt but not as bad.

I picked up the Prince Lightning 100 when it was on sale just to see what that played like. Wrist pain was minimal when I played with it, much less than with the more flexible 100T. I then leaded it up to 11.4 (in the handle and throat) and wrist pain is at all time low when hitting. Elbow screams.

Cripey. I don't know why this super stiff racquet is allowing me to play with such reduced pain in the wrist but I like it. Not so much the GE. I'd like to find something that reduces that GE while still almost eliminating the wrist pain (which apparently means stiffer). Of the two I'll take the GE pain over the wrist pain. I don't know if it's the balance or stiffness or what but I'm now hesitant to go too head light/flexy again.

Any ideas?

Prokennex all the way.....Never really believed until I tried and I highly recommend to try it.

I have been struggling with wrist Arthritis as I play almost daily and 2 twice a week with my fellow 4.5 partner atleast 4 to 5 hours.

After seeing few of older players in my group who are 60 plus enjoying their Tennis with Prokennex with no issues after going through different kind of arm injuries.

I went and bought ProKennex Q5 (295) and my wrist pain level went to 2 in a week.

I'm no way related to Prokennex and just a fellow Tennis player wants to help out other players.

Good luck and all the best on your speedy recovery.

 

[NE1for10is?]

Polyfiber TCS 16 in the crosses at 50, Gosen Sheep Micro 16 in the mains at 55.

I have a soft co-poly hybrid in my racquet and I can only tolerate it for an hour or two a week before it starts bothering my wrist or elbow, and then I go back to using a full bed of synthetic. If you are playing with it 6 days a week it's no wonder you're having pain. It won't matter how soft your racquet is. Stiff strings or stiff racquet + denial = pain + injury.

 

[beltsman]

I'm old. I hit singles 6 days a week, hitting with 3.5's to 4.5's. Been having wrist problems for quite a few years from my ulnar bone being too long and impacting the TFCC. Apparently this can show up more as you age (if you believe those doctor people!).
I'm also getting arthritis all through my right hand.
And I have GE.
None of those give me enough pain to stop playing, though sometimes I have to stop for the day.

So for years I kept playing with more flexible racquets believing it would ease the wrist pain. Played with the EXO3 tour for most of those. Pain never went away, elbow was great.

When they first came out I tested the Tour 100T and surprisingly the wrist didn't hurt as much. So I switched to it (leaded up to 11.5). Elbow pain came back but not bad, wrist still hurt but not as bad.

I picked up the Prince Lightning 100 when it was on sale just to see what that played like. Wrist pain was minimal when I played with it, much less than with the more flexible 100T. I then leaded it up to 11.4 (in the handle and throat) and wrist pain is at all time low when hitting. Elbow screams.

Cripey. I don't know why this super stiff racquet is allowing me to play with such reduced pain in the wrist but I like it. Not so much the GE. I'd like to find something that reduces that GE while still almost eliminating the wrist pain (which apparently means stiffer). Of the two I'll take the GE pain over the wrist pain. I don't know if it's the balance or stiffness or what but I'm now hesitant to go too head light/flexy again.

Any ideas?

How old?

 

[sportmac]

How old?

68

 

[beltsman]

68

Still a spring chicken!

Good luck with your injury

 

[sportmac]

Still a spring chicken!

Good luck with your injury

I'm embracing my immaturity, my body just isn't cooperating!

 

[phanker]

What's your forehand grip? How tight are you gripping the handle at impact?
What dampener are you using?

 

[sportmac]

Update: After trying some of the suggestions here (Volkl, Pro-Kennex and a few others) I settled on ditching poly's and going with full bed of Gosen Micro Sheep and sticking with my 100T.
Big difference right out of the gate on the poly's. So thanks for those who told me to dump the them. Old dog, new...

I hit with a Yonex DR 100 and that has got to be the most stable solid racquet I've ever swung. Unfortunately it was too stiff but my o my, that was sweet. So I rethought my 100T. Had weight on the handle at 7" and at 3 and 9 in the hoop. Moved the weight into the butt cap, added some in the throat and loaded up the hoop with strips from 1 to 11 and kept 3 and 9. Huge difference in wrist and elbow pain. I've yet to hit a shot where the wrist hurts so bad I cuss like a broke sailor on a 3 day pass (which was a common occurrence). Elbow still a bit of a problem but going from 2 major pains to one medium pain is great.

So no poly's and moving the mass seems to be doing the trick for now.

 

[fuzz nation]

Good deal - hopefully you can keep your health headed in the right direction.

If you get a chance to check it, I'd be curious to know what sort of weight and balance you ended up with in your Prince after your tuning. Maybe more than 11.5 oz.?

I string racquets at home and while I recognize the performance aspects of the polys, I still really love the combo of comfort, feel, and performance I get in my gear when I use 17 ga. syn. gut. Thanks for sharing your story and updating - another interesting progression.

If you're using 16 ga. Gosen, you may want to sample a bed of 17 ga. just to see if there's any difference to help your cause. I find their OGSM in 16 ga. to play a bit more firm than I prefer compared with some other syn. guts, but the 17 ga. version was nice. It seems to me that the thinner string can bring a more connected, less "thuddy" sort of feel and it also seems to have more inherent softness than the thicker alternative. Yes, tension affects feel and performance, too, but syn. gut in general is cheap stuff - easy to sample.

Happy New Year!!

 

[Dso]

I'm trying to find a better string than Tecnifibre Xone Biphase 17 ga for both comfort and playability. I haven't found any yet.

 

[sportmac]

I'm trying to find a better string than Tecnifibre Xone Biphase 17 ga for both comfort and playability. I haven't found any yet.

I've ordered some Alpha Gut 2000 which TW rates very comfortable (92). Also have some Prince Premier Control which I read somewhere here is very good as well. Have a couple of others on my list but not at home so can't look it up. I haven't played with Biphase yet. Lot of folks here seem to swear by it for comfort.

 

[sportmac]

Good deal - hopefully you can keep your health headed in the right direction.

If you get a chance to check it, I'd be curious to know what sort of weight and balance you ended up with in your Prince after your tuning. Maybe more than 11.5 oz.?

I string racquets at home and while I recognize the performance aspects of the polys, I still really love the combo of comfort, feel, and performance I get in my gear when I use 17 ga. syn. gut. Thanks for sharing your story and updating - another interesting progression.

If you're using 16 ga. Gosen, you may want to sample a bed of 17 ga. just to see if there's any difference to help your cause. I find their OGSM in 16 ga. to play a bit more firm than I prefer compared with some other syn. guts, but the 17 ga. version was nice. It seems to me that the thinner string can bring a more connected, less "thuddy" sort of feel and it also seems to have more inherent softness than the thicker alternative. Yes, tension affects feel and performance, too, but syn. gut in general is cheap stuff - easy to sample.

Happy New Year!!

I'll check when I get back on the weight and balance. If I recall the weight didn't change much, balance went from around 6 HL to 2 or 3 HL.

Happy New Year to you as well!

 

[Zoolander]

Playing 6 days a week is amazing considering your horribly advanced age, gramps! Good to hear you have worked some things out. Can only say that when I had GE it was the weight that was the problem, not stiffness. Esp on serves and sometimes forehands, trying to move a heavier racquet quickly hurt a lot more than a lighter one. How was the 100t with no weight in the hoop and softer strings?

 

[Moveforwardalways]

Heavy and head light

 

[zalive]

Playing 6 days a week is amazing considering your horribly advanced age, gramps! Good to hear you have worked some things out. Can only say that when I had GE it was the weight that was the problem, not stiffness. Esp on serves and sometimes forehands, trying to move a heavier racquet quickly hurt a lot more than a lighter one. How was the 100t with no weight in the hoop and softer strings?

When you removed the weight, I guess you made SW lower as well and made racquet more head light too?
Or you kept the SW?

 

[Zoolander]

When you removed the weight, I guess you made SW lower as well and made racquet more head light too?
Or you kept the SW?

Nope, both lower, and slightly more HL as a result. Was an extreme which are stiffer and strung with SPPPlasma, but was def the lower weight that helped, rather than just a lower SW. Come to think of it, was the same when i had shoulder impingement.

 

[sportmac]

Good deal - hopefully you can keep your health headed in the right direction.

If you get a chance to check it, I'd be curious to know what sort of weight and balance you ended up with in your Prince after your tuning. Maybe more than 11.5 oz.?

I string racquets at home and while I recognize the performance aspects of the polys, I still really love the combo of comfort, feel, and performance I get in my gear when I use 17 ga. syn. gut. Thanks for sharing your story and updating - another interesting progression.

If you're using 16 ga. Gosen, you may want to sample a bed of 17 ga. just to see if there's any difference to help your cause. I find their OGSM in 16 ga. to play a bit more firm than I prefer compared with some other syn. guts, but the 17 ga. version was nice. It seems to me that the thinner string can bring a more connected, less "thuddy" sort of feel and it also seems to have more inherent softness than the thicker alternative. Yes, tension affects feel and performance, too, but syn. gut in general is cheap stuff - easy to sample.

Happy New Year!!

The racquet is 11.52 oz, 5 pts head light balance (I put a ruler on a table and hang the racquet off the end till it just balances where it meets the table. At that point it's 12 7/8 which I believe is 5 pts hl no?).

Here's photo's:

 

[sportmac]

Playing 6 days a week is amazing considering your horribly advanced age, gramps! Good to hear you have worked some things out. Can only say that when I had GE it was the weight that was the problem, not stiffness. Esp on serves and sometimes forehands, trying to move a heavier racquet quickly hurt a lot more than a lighter one. How was the 100t with no weight in the hoop and softer strings?

Heard a stand up routine where the guy said that the only thing young people are better at than anyone else is looking good so they should all just strike a pose and STFU!



Interesting about the weight. I've not heard anyone suggest lower weight for GE fix before.

 

[welcome2petrkordaland]

Its a good question. I suspect its a combination of ports, super open string pattern, built-in dampener and maybe my timing was a bit better because it was lighter. The tour 100 has a lower RA but higher swing weight but for me the 16x16 was an even more plush ride. Good luck.

This makes a lotta sense. just bought 2 of these 16 x 16 Princes (been using Prince Tour 16 x 18) and got Monogut Zyex 1.27mm at 57 full bed... can't wait to see how it goes, although lifespan will be short.

 

[Dartagnan64]

What rehab are you doing on a daily basis to help your arm? Stretching is key as a limber tendon is more resistant to shock forces. Eccentric exercises will help strengthen and stretch tendons.

BTW I also have that Textreme Tour 100T racquet now to help with arm issues. Seems to be helping. I've increased the weight in the grip to get it more HL but added none to the hoop as I wanted it to stay reasonably quick.

 

[gvsbdisco]

This makes a lotta sense. just bought 2 of these 16 x 16 Princes (been using Prince Tour 16 x 18) and got Monogut Zyex 1.27mm at 57 full bed... can't wait to see how it goes, although lifespan will be short.

Good luck with the new frames and let us know if they help.

 

[Lucas2015]

@sportmac is a click sound a symptom of your wrist condition?
I am younger but had some wrist pain and now my wrist makes strange noises when I move it.

In my case, a stiff racquet -psc 18x20- was worse than hyper carbon 16x18.
This week I will try changing to a bigger sweetspot but same stiffness of the psc, a Head Extreme Pro or a Babolat Pure Drive,, because I dont like the drop in power of the hyper

 

[sportmac]

What rehab are you doing on a daily basis to help your arm? Stretching is key as a limber tendon is more resistant to shock forces. Eccentric exercises will help strengthen and stretch tendons.

BTW I also have that Textreme Tour 100T racquet now to help with arm issues. Seems to be helping. I've increased the weight in the grip to get it more HL but added none to the hoop as I wanted it to stay reasonably quick.

I'm doing some very mild flexbar routines for GE. I also ice 3 times a day for about 20 minutes. When I get up in the morning I put on one of those arm compression sleeves for about 45 minutes to loosen it up.

I tail weighted it so it's still more headlight than stock. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how maneuverable it was after putting the weight in the hoop.

That hoop weight... it is now one solid hit. Can really feel the difference in plow through.
This setup has helped the arm/wrist quite a bit. I did scale back to 2 days a week for a couple of weeks but increasing to 3 this week and hope to get back to 5 and 6.

 

[sportmac]

@sportmac is a click sound a symptom of your wrist condition?
I am younger but had some wrist pain and now my wrist makes strange noises when I move it.

In my case, a stiff racquet -psc 18x20- was worse than hyper carbon 16x18.
This week I will try changing to a bigger sweetspot but same stiffness of the psc, a Head Extreme Pro or a Babolat Pure Drive,, because I dont like the drop in power of the hyper

No, no clicking. I don't know that I've ever heard of writs clicking so can't be of help.

 

[Dso]

Massage the hell out of your arm with GE with you other arm. Start in the meat of you flexors and work towards the tendon. Do it frequently.

 

[Chadillac]

No, no clicking. I don't know that I've ever heard of writs clicking so can't be of help.

My wrist was getting sore and i have been messing with a few things. Very low tensions but a leather grip may help me more. I noticed you use a wilson perf perm grip (my fav as well as your alpha serpant vibrazob).

This is a very random theory but maybe a softer grip is putting pressure on your wrist, like super soft shoes do your ankles. Having to squeeze a bit on a cushion could make your wrist feel more stress. Its hard to explain

 

[bkr]

My wrist was getting sore and i have been messing with a few things. Very low tensions but a leather grip may help me more. I noticed you use a wilson perf perm grip (my fav as well as your alpha serpant vibrazob).

This is a very random theory but maybe a softer grip is putting pressure on your wrist, like super soft shoes do your ankles. Having to squeeze a bit on a cushion could make your wrist feel more stress. Its hard to explain

I have had wrist issues with Tendinitis in my wrist but now after switching to Prokennex Q5 295grms my pain had gone down to 2 which is great as I almost hit everyday plus feed hundreds of balls to my kids.

I came from Wilson Kfactor Six one heaver racquet so it was a compromise but not too much as Q5 gave me control with 16*20 pattern and very easy to swing.I read somewhere lighter racquets are good for wrist.Q5 at 315grms with overgrip and headguard tape is still a light racquet but Kinetic Technology is really doing magic as I don't get any pain at all even after playing or feeding balls 7 days a week.

I highly recommend trying Q5 racquet as it has really saved my wrist.One can really start adding weight as well.I have just started adding weight 4grm at 12 and 8grms at 7 inches from butt cap.Now the racquet hits a heaver ball and serves are good as well with increased SwingWeight.

I keep writing these messages whenever I see messages relating to wrist or arm issues as I have seen so many cases folks are enjoying their tennis pain free after switching to Prokennex.It took a while for me to switch to Prokennex as I have 30 plus racquets at home and never really believed the claims of some of my fellow tennis players.

Also hitting in front is very very critical even those cases where deep balls needs to be hit infront with weight on back foot and left foot in the air( you can probably recall Federer hitting those shots

 

[Lucas2015]

K 6.1 95 16x18 ?

 

[Chadillac]

I have had wrist issues with Tendinitis in my wrist but now after switching to Prokennex Q5 295grms my pain had gone down to 2 which is great as I almost hit everyday plus feed hundreds of balls to my kids.

I came from Wilson Kfactor Six one heaver racquet so it was a compromise but not too much as Q5 gave me control with 16*20 pattern and very easy to swing.I read somewhere lighter racquets are good for wrist.Q5 at 315grms with overgrip and headguard tape is still a light racquet but Kinetic Technology is really doing magic as I don't get any pain at all even after playing or feeding balls 7 days a week.

I highly recommend trying Q5 racquet as it has really saved my wrist.One can really start adding weight as well.I have just started adding weight 4grm at 12 and 8grms at 7 inches from butt cap.Now the racquet hits a heaver ball and serves are good as well with increased SwingWeight.

I keep writing these messages whenever I see messages relating to wrist or arm issues as I have seen so many cases folks are enjoying their tennis pain free after switching to Prokennex.It took a while for me to switch to Prokennex as I have 30 plus racquets at home and never really believed the claims of some of my fellow tennis players.

Also hitting in front is very very critical even those cases where deep balls needs to be hit infront with weight on back foot and left foot in the air( you can probably recall Federer hitting those shots

Wrist is good now, my problem is when my arm is fully extended. Mostly the serve, high forehands and backhands i try to hit hard, also stretch it.

I was using an ultra xp 100s for the past year and some. They need to be strung tighter with poly mains to work and really stiff. Hard on the arm especially when i was hitting hard serves from tosses i shouldnt of. Its drifted more overhead, fine off the kick but no reason for it to be there on the flat slice.

Just need more practice but its a shot i cant really practice atm. Serve used to a be str, if i hit one back at my old speed 110ish and they return it, its always a winner because im holding my elbow

 

[bkr]

K 6.1 95 16x18 ?

Yes...Love that racquet esp forehand wing

 

[sportmac]

My wrist was getting sore and i have been messing with a few things. Very low tensions but a leather grip may help me more. I noticed you use a wilson perf perm grip (my fav as well as your alpha serpant vibrazob).

This is a very random theory but maybe a softer grip is putting pressure on your wrist, like super soft shoes do your ankles. Having to squeeze a bit on a cushion could make your wrist feel more stress. Its hard to explain

That's an idea worth looking into to. I actually have two overgrips on because I found that the larger grip also helps, but it's even softer with two.
I'm also fighting GE so it's a bit of a balancing act between the two. Still I'll get a leather grip and give it a go and let you know what I find.

 

[sportmac]

I have had wrist issues with Tendinitis in my wrist but now after switching to Prokennex Q5 295grms my pain had gone down to 2 which is great as I almost hit everyday plus feed hundreds of balls to my kids.

I came from Wilson Kfactor Six one heaver racquet so it was a compromise but not too much as Q5 gave me control with 16*20 pattern and very easy to swing.I read somewhere lighter racquets are good for wrist.Q5 at 315grms with overgrip and headguard tape is still a light racquet but Kinetic Technology is really doing magic as I don't get any pain at all even after playing or feeding balls 7 days a week.

I highly recommend trying Q5 racquet as it has really saved my wrist.One can really start adding weight as well.I have just started adding weight 4grm at 12 and 8grms at 7 inches from butt cap.Now the racquet hits a heaver ball and serves are good as well with increased SwingWeight.

I keep writing these messages whenever I see messages relating to wrist or arm issues as I have seen so many cases folks are enjoying their tennis pain free after switching to Prokennex.It took a while for me to switch to Prokennex as I have 30 plus racquets at home and never really believed the claims of some of my fellow tennis players.

Also hitting in front is very very critical even those cases where deep balls needs to be hit infront with weight on back foot and left foot in the air( you can probably recall Federer hitting those shots

I've demoed several PK racquets including the Q5's. I just didn't take to them. I know it's hard to change racquets so maybe if I bought one I'd grow to like it (and I could always use another racquet!) but for just a week at a time didn't work for me.

That said, I find it difficult to take to any racquet that's not a Prince. Lord knows I try. There's just something about them that I can't find in other racquets.

 

[sportmac]

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[lstewart]

I'm about to turn 59, am a high 4.5 player, and have a million miles on my body. I hit just about every day, and lift weights 3 times per week. Also walk 2 miles at lunch during the week as the weather allows. My wrist is the biggest issue.... very achy and arthritic. Am also prone to elbow issues, as the elbow is not great. Has been tennis elbow at times, golfer elbow other times. Four knee surgeries, and a back surgery. Things hurt, but I still play at a high level. I know I am on the clock as to the limited amount of time I can play at a high level, so I am just going to ride it as long as I can. I tape my wrist heavily, and wear a wristband over the tape. I play a 12 plus ounce 95 inch flexible frame with a big grip. I string with a soft poly hybrid main, synthetic cross. My wrist / elbow are very racket / string sensitive, so I play with what I can get by. I've been at the unusual situation for years where everything hurts, but I can still play at a high level. Stinks to get old.

 

[Dartagnan64]

That's an idea worth looking into to. I actually have two overgrips on because I found that the larger grip also helps, but it's even softer with two.
I'm also fighting GE so it's a bit of a balancing act between the two. Still I'll get a leather grip and give it a go and let you know what I find.

Don't get a leather grip. Get a Wilson Shock Shield with a soft overgrip.I don't buy the having to squeeze a softer grip theory. Wrist issues are often more mechanical in nature such as exaggerating the WW followthrough or over pronating on spin serves..

 

[Frans Bleker]

Here is an idea: Use a different forehand grip. When I started playing I used an eastern grip. Apperently the place in my wrist absorbing the shock was kind of sensative and I had pain in my wrist all the time. I changed to almost a Western forehand grip and never had any issues again. Mainly this is due to a different part of my wrist which is apperently not so sensative is absorbing the impact now.

 

[bkr]

I've demoed several PK racquets including the Q5's. I just didn't take to them. I know it's hard to change racquets so maybe if I bought one I'd grow to like it (and I could always use another racquet!) but for just a week at a time didn't work for me.

That said, I find it difficult to take to any racquet that's not a Prince. Lord knows I try. There's just something about them that I can't find in other racquets.

Agree 100% with you as it is not easy to change racquets also you made a good point that you prefer Prince racquets.I can resonate with that thought as I have always liked OVAL Shaped racquet i.e similar to Wilson Six one 95 and never really could play my best game with round shape racquets probably because I grow up playing with these racquets and my game and shots work well with these type of racquets.

I love my Wilson K 6.1.95 but my wrist couldn't take it with poly strings on it also another important factor being bigger 100 inch sweetspot on Q5 helps in the matches at the same time not losing too much control with 16*20 pattern.I have played q5 stock for nearly a month and I'm itching to add weight to get that heavy ball but at the same time don't want to change too many things considering it helped a lot to cure my wrist so I can enjoy pain free Tennis for a long time to come.