WTA 2024 Wuhan 1000

D-Lite

Hall of Fame
Hugely positive performance from both players heading towards the YEC.

Zheng finally won a set from Sabalenka after going 0-7 in sets, but is now 0-4 against Sabalenka. It's great to see a top Chinese player able to go deep at these 1000 events as it really brings the crowds in.

Sabalenka wins her 3rd straight Wuhan title and has won more than 1x WTA 1000 title in a single season for the first time in her career (also won Cincinnati '24).

8 x DFs for Zheng when the pressure applied by Sabalenka on return is already so great. Gauff and Zheng really need to keep these DFs under 5 when playing Sabalenka, ideally even lower. Sabalenka only hit 1 DF today.
 

D-Lite

Hall of Fame
Sabalenka overtakes Wozniacki, Jankovic, Mauremso and Sanchez Vicario for her 7th WTA 1000 and now sits tied with Clijsters.

Next up for Sabalenka is Kvitova, Halep, Venus, Seles and Martinez who are all tied on 9.
I really think she can end her career on 11-14 1000 titles. Given her past inconsistency, contrasting with this year's consistency it will be interesting to see what she can do next year - could the confidence grow even further? That's what I want to know.
What's interesting is Venus and Seles being on 9 yet having considerably more majors than the others mentioned. Of course for Venus and Kvitova in particular not having a grass 1000 (their best surface) probably didn't help their numbers. Not sure how many 1000 events they had in the 90s and 00s compared to now as a consideration for how many opportunities they had per year.
 

tennis4me

Hall of Fame
As much as people may disagree with the Chinese government (what happened to Peng Shuai?) it's good for tenni$ to have a rising star from china. Yes, Q zheng is a diva but so are lot of the other top tennis players.
Eventually it's all about money, er busine$$. WTA lost a lot of money when it threatened to boycott events in China, then U-turned.

From theguardian
The combined effects of Covid and the absence of the Chinese swing are reflected in the massive hole in the WTA’s balance sheet for 2020, its most recent tax filings. After making revenues of $109,733,686 with an operating loss of $1m in 2019, its revenue in 2020 was $37,666,082 with an operating loss of $16.5m. By comparison, the ATP’s revenue also fell significantly in 2019 but, among many other reasons, their lack of reliance on Chinese events meant that profit actually increased by $1m to $16m.
You're so correct about the diva. Many champions show some air of arrogance. Probably need to have that confidence that you're better than everyone else. Maybe that's what ticked off her opponents.

She lost today and during her speech, not a single word of credit to her team nor Sabalenka, but a mention of her body not being 100%. She did thank the crowd.

In all fairness, Saba had a little diva moment herself in a small incident with a ball girl and was acting a little rude in the previous match, then got booed by the crowd. Some Iga fans in social media tagged a few known tennis journalist (Morgado) and asked whether they are going to cover/talk about that. That's a very fair question. Everyone is human, everyone has their favs and biases. But maybe journalists have unique position to be more fair and provide equal coverage even if one of their favs is showing poor on-court behaviors.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
WTA needs to move out of USA, ATP set its HQ in London because they know it. Tennis is dominated by European players with increasing importance from the East, the focus should be where it matters, not where it came from, WTA stuck in the past and let itself languish.
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
WTA needs to move out of USA, ATP set its HQ in London because they know it. Tennis is dominated by European players with increasing importance from the East, the focus should be where it matters, not where it came from, WTA stuck in the past and let itself languish.
Yup! They should have their head quarter in Dubai.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
WTA did a pisspoor job to promote tennis when Ons Jabeur was riding high, there are millions of girls could find her as inspiration, and they are not just from middle East, they are in Europe, Africa and SE Asia too. What has WTA done? bare minimum effort tie in with middle East region, that just showed you how outdated thinking WTA à la American has.
 
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Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
WTA needs to move out of USA, ATP set its HQ in London because they know it. Tennis is dominated by European players with increasing importance from the East, the focus should be where it matters, not where it came from, WTA stuck in the past and let itself languish.
WTA has headquarters in St. Petersburg. Florida, London, and Beijing. Do your research.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
Eventually it's all about money, er busine$$. WTA lost a lot of money when it threatened to boycott events in China, then U-turned.

From theguardian

You're so correct about the diva. Many champions show some air of arrogance. Probably need to have that confidence that you're better than everyone else. Maybe that's what ticked off her opponents.

She lost today and during her speech, not a single word of credit to her team nor Sabalenka, but a mention of her body not being 100%. She did thank the crowd.

In all fairness, Saba had a little diva moment herself in a small incident with a ball girl and was acting a little rude in the previous match, then got booed by the crowd. Some Iga fans in social media tagged a few known tennis journalist (Morgado) and asked whether they are going to cover/talk about that. That's a very fair question. Everyone is human, everyone has their favs and biases. But maybe journalists have unique position to be more fair and provide equal coverage even if one of their favs is showing poor on-court behaviors.

From the comments on Weibo, Zheng received a lot of criticism, but some fans defend her for being true to herself :unsure:, as for Sabalenka, I didn't see any negative, it's almost universal praise from fans!

Ps. I didn't watch the match, just watched the highlights, Zheng did mich better than I had expected, I thought this would be another easy win from Sabalenka.
 

tennis4me

Hall of Fame
From the comments on Weibo, Zheng received a lot of criticism, but some fans defend her for being true to herself :unsure:, as for Sabalenka, I didn't see any negative, it's almost universal praise from fans!

Ps. I didn't watch the match, just watched the highlights, Zheng did mich better than I had expected, I thought this would be another easy win from Sabalenka.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
Salalenka officially #1 on the race ranking, Sabalenka has collected 4 titles so far : AO, Cincy (1000), USO and Wuhan (1000), coincidentally APT #1 Sinner collected 4 titles in the same week- AO, Cincy (1000), USO and Shanghai (1000), they are in sync of lifting trophy together.
 

insideguy

G.O.A.T.
WTA needs to move out of USA, ATP set its HQ in London because they know it. Tennis is dominated by European players with increasing importance from the East, the focus should be where it matters, not where it came from, WTA stuck in the past and let itself languish.
The USA has 4 women in the top ten. No other country has that.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
The USA has 4 women in the top ten. No other country has that.

So? Even if they had ranked top 1 to top 4, it won't change the fact that tennis as a sport is dominated by (east) European countries, this has been the case in the last 30 years for both men and women. American-centric approach doesn't serve the best interest for the sport, ATP moving its global HQ to London and hired an European as CEO are the right thing to do, it's not just a location change, it's more about the mindset and perspective, having a vision to serve the players and fans across all continents.
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
So? Even if they had ranked top 1 to top 4, it won't change the fact that tennis as a sport is dominated by (east) European countries, this has been the case in the last 30 years for both men and women. American-centric approach doesn't serve the best interest for the sport, ATP moving its global HQ to London and hired an European as CEO are the right thing to do, it's not just a location change, it's more about the mindset and perspective, having a vision to serve the players and fans across all continents.
You seem to have a bit of bias against the US. Do you really think there is anyone in London that has some unique capabilities that cannot be found in New York?
 

insideguy

G.O.A.T.
So? Even if they had ranked top 1 to top 4, it won't change the fact that tennis as a sport is dominated by (east) European countries, this has been the case in the last 30 years for both men and women. American-centric approach doesn't serve the best interest for the sport, ATP moving its global HQ to London and hired an European as CEO are the right thing to do, it's not just a location change, it's more about the mindset and perspective, having a vision to serve the players and fans across all continents.
Wait so the 4 us women in the top 10 dont count? And Eastern European women dont dominate tennis all the time. Just because it's happening now doesn't mean it always will. I have watched this game long enough to know that. These places aren't going to jump around all over the place because one region is doing better right now. US women have more slams than any country. Honestly it's not even close.
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
So? Even if they had ranked top 1 to top 4, it won't change the fact that tennis as a sport is dominated by (east) European countries, this has been the case in the last 30 years for both men and women. American-centric approach doesn't serve the best interest for the sport, ATP moving its global HQ to London and hired an European as CEO are the right thing to do, it's not just a location change, it's more about the mindset and perspective, having a vision to serve the players and fans across all continents.
Apply for the job Champ.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Wow. Sabalenka has made up some serious ground in the rankings.

Right now, it’s:
Swiatek 9785
Sabalenka 9716

However, YTD, it’s
Sabalenka 9091
Swiatek 8285

It’s looking like Sabalenka will snap Swiatek’s 2-year run of YE#1. This rivalry has gotten much more interesting.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Wow. Sabalenka has made up some serious ground in the rankings.

Right now, it’s:
Swiatek 9785
Sabalenka 9716

However, YTD, it’s
Sabalenka 9091
Swiatek 8285

It’s looking like Sabalenka will snap Swiatek’s 2-year run of YE#1. This rivalry has gotten much more interesting.
I just wish they actually got to play eachother more often. Bloody Pegula ruining things at the US Open.

Hopefully this WTA Finals we get another match.
 

JJGUY

Hall of Fame
Wait so the 4 us women in the top 10 dont count? And Eastern European women dont dominate tennis all the time. Just because it's happening now doesn't mean it always will. I have watched this game long enough to know that. These places aren't going to jump around all over the place because one region is doing better right now. US women have more slams than any country. Honestly it's not even close.

This is not the point, it's how WTA views itself, to give you an example, after Gauff won Beijing, WTA posted this nonsense immediately, they must have it prepared for days, but seriously, what is it supposed to mean? The first American since Serena, can Gauff just be herself once as a winner here? If you want to focus on the nationality, last year WTA didn't post a side by side Swiatek and Radwanska, after all Iga was the first Pole to win Beijing after Radawanska. And talking about Gauff, let's not forget the in your face push from WTA a few years ago, the nauseous hype almost destroyed Gauff before she even had a chance to prove herself. WTA needs to ask itself, am I running a sports league for tennis players from all countries, or I am running a backyard league in Florida?

 

insideguy

G.O.A.T.
This is not the point, it's how WTA views itself, to give you an example, after Gauff won Beijing, WTA posted this nonsense immediately, they must have it prepared for days, but seriously, what is it supposed to mean? The first American since Serena, can Gauff just be herself once as a winner here? If you want to focus on the nationality, last year WTA didn't post a side by side Swiatek and Radwanska, after all Iga was the first Pole to win Beijing after Radawanska. And talking about Gauff, let's not forget the in your face push from WTA a few years ago, the nauseous hype almost destroyed Gauff before she even had a chance to prove herself. WTA needs to ask itself, am I running a sports league for tennis players from all countries, or I am running a backyard league in Florida?

Are you ok?
 

jaredk

New User
WTA needs to move out of USA, ATP set its HQ in London because they know it. Tennis is dominated by European players with increasing importance from the East, the focus should be where it matters, not where it came from, WTA stuck in the past and let itself languish.
Would the nationality of the wta top brass be more important than the location? Maybe it’s time to rotate those positions more.
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
This is not the point, it's how WTA views itself, to give you an example, after Gauff won Beijing, WTA posted this nonsense immediately, they must have it prepared for days, but seriously, what is it supposed to mean? The first American since Serena, can Gauff just be herself once as a winner here? If you want to focus on the nationality, last year WTA didn't post a side by side Swiatek and Radwanska, after all Iga was the first Pole to win Beijing after Radawanska. And talking about Gauff, let's not forget the in your face push from WTA a few years ago, the nauseous hype almost destroyed Gauff before she even had a chance to prove herself. WTA needs to ask itself, am I running a sports league for tennis players from all countries, or I am running a backyard league in Florida?
Starting with your last question, the WTA is not only running a sports league, but perhaps more importantly MARKETING a sports league.

Look, I hate the Gauff hype as much as anyone, but this effort to tie her into Serena Williams should be obvious as to why. The WTA went from Steffi Graf (and plenty of others before that), pretty much straight into Serena, where both were stars that were comparable in popularity to the top mens stars. But now there is a complete vacuum at the top of the WTA in terms of star power, and they are desperate to fill it. That is their real problem. And no matter how much they can try to construct a new global star, first and foremost the player has to have the results to merit the status.
 
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