Year over year strength post 2015

[nolefam_2024]

2016 - best rivalry Djokovic Murray
Matches 3-2
Slam finals 2-0 Djokovic
Masters finals 1-1
Atp finals 1-0 Murray
Best match - Wimbledon QF Federer Cilic or Olympics Nadal Delpo

2017 - best rivalry fedal
Matches 4-0
Slam finals 1-0
Masters finals 2-0
Best match Australian open finals Federer Nadal

2018 - best rivalry Rafa Thiem
Matches 3-1 Nadal
Slam finals 1-0 Nadal
Masters finals 1-0 Nadal
Best match Wimbledon semis Nadal Djokovic

2019 best rivalry Rafole
Matches 1-1
Slam finals 1-0 Djokovic
Masters finals 1-0 Nadal
Best match Wimbledon finals Djokovic federer

2020 - reduced year
Best rivalry - Djokovic vs Thiem
Matches 1-1
Slam finals 1-0 Djokovic
Masters finals 0-0
Best match Nadal vs Thiem AO

2021
Best rivalry Djokovic Medvedev
Matches 2-1 Djokovic
Slam finals 1-1
Masters finals 1-0 Djokovic
Best match Djokovic Nadal RG

2022
Best rivalry sinner alcaraz
Matches 2-1 sinner
Best match Nadal vs Medvedev AO

2023
Best rivalry Djokovic alcaraz
Matches 2-1 Djokovic
Slam finals 1-0 alcaraz
Masters finals 1-0 Djokovic
Best match Wimbledon finals Djokovic Alcaraz

 

[nolefam_2024]

Compared to 2015 when we had 2 greats playing 8 times.

2014 best rivalry fedkovic

2013 Rafole

2012 fedkovic

2011 Rafole / fedkovic

2010 Rafa vs someone

2009 Fedal

2008 Rafole/Fedal

2007 fedal

2006 fedal

2005 ??

 

[NatF]

The best match in 2016 was Delpo vs Murray in Davis Cup. Easily.

 

[nolefam_2024]

There has not been a single year where top guys have faced strong competition in 2018 onwards. Djokovic and Nadal didn't face each other post Wimbledon 2018

Djokovic and Nadal faced each other only once in slam in 2019

Reduced year 2020

Djokovic and Medvedev faced each other only 3 times 2021

Sinner is not great player yet 2022

Djokovic and Alcaraz have not faced each other a lot in 2023

 

[NatF]

There has not been a single year where top guys have faced strong competition in 2018 onwards. Djokovic and Nadal didn't face each other post Wimbledon 2018

Djokovic and Nadal faced each other only once in slam in 2019

Reduced year 2020

Djokovic and Medvedev faced each other only 3 times 2021

Sinner is not great player yet 2022

Djokovic and Alcaraz have not faced each other a lot in 2023

And who has won the most in this period?

 

[InsuranceMan]

Strong era confirmed, bullish supercycle incoming. Fraud lucked out.

@nachiket nolefam for 2022 best matches you’re forgetting Alcaraz Sinner USO, and de Minaur vs. “Pistol” Cristian Garin at Wimbledon.

 

[Holmes]

And who has won the most in this period?

Us Fedfans really do not want to talk about number of wins in a weak period.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Slam meetings between top 2 since 2005

2005 - 1
2006 - 2
2007 - 2
2008 - 2
2009 - 1
2010 - 0
2011 - 3
2012 - 2
2013 - 2
2014 - 1
2015 - 2
2016 - 2
2017 - 0
2018 - 0
2019 - 1
2020 - 1
2021 - 1
2022 - 0
2023 - 1

Year 2010, 17, 18, 20, 22 had zero meetings between world's best at that time in a slam finals.

Between 2005-16 in 12 years it happened only once.

Between 2017 to 2023 in 7 years it happened 3 times.

Between 2005 to 2016 there were 7 years where best two played at least twice. Between 2017 to now it has not happened even once.

In 2011 the best two played 3 slam finals out of the possible four. This happened for the only time in this century and possibly in open era history.

 

[StrongRule]

In AO 2017 itself there were a few matches that were of higher quality than the final. Just as there were in other tournaments. That was far from being the best match of the year, though I understand why Federer fans really like the result.

 

[nolefam_2024]

In AO 2017 itself there were a few matches that were of higher quality than the final. Just as there were in other tournaments. That was far from being the best match of the year, though I understand why Federer fans really like the result.

I think the quality of shots between fedal is much better than Rafa vs Dimitrov. Dimitrov is punching bag of Rafa.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Tennis is in need of the top tier rivalry right now. Alcaraz and Djokovic will not be it since Djokovic is 36.

To be fair to Nole, he was in all 4 finals this year while Alcaraz withdrew from 1 and didn't reach finals in other 2.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Going back in 2000s top 2 finals

2000 - 1
2001 - 0
2002 - 0
2003 - 0
2004 - 1
2005 - 1
2006 - 2
2007 - 2
2008 - 2
2009 - 1
2010 - 0
2011 - 2
2012 - 2
2013 - 2
2014 - 1
2015 - 2
2016 - 2
2017 - 0
2018 - 0
2019 - 1
2020 - 1
2021 - 1
2022 - 0
2023 - 1

 

[nolefam_2024]

Strong era confirmed, bullish supercycle incoming. Fraud lucked out.

@nachiket nolefam for 2022 best matches you’re forgetting Alcaraz Sinner USO, and de Minaur vs. “Pistol” Cristian Garin at Wimbledon.

What it tells is simple. There have been many years fed had been number 1 and many where Nole have been number 1..

2004 fed had only 1 top final 2020 Nole had only 1 top final
2005 fed had 2 2012 Nole had 2
2006 fed had 2 2011 Nole had 2
2007 fed had 2 2015 Nole had 2
2009 fed had 2 and 2014 Nole had 1

Now we are left with 2 years fed never was number 1. 2021 Nole had 1.

If Nole wins 2023 ye then he will again definitely have 1

And finally 2018 Nole had 0 again.

Three years for Nole where top 2 in slam finals twice
Three for fed.

3 years for Nole where top 2 in slam finals once
Two for fed

And Nole will probably get another year now.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Comparing Nadal vs the two goats is cruel. But just for comparison.

2008 Nadal had 2
2013 Nadal has 2
2017 Nadal had 0
2019 Nadal had 1
2010 Nadal had 0

The least for federer is 1. The least for Nadal is 0. The least for Nole is 0.

But Nadal got 2 times 0 finals between top 2.

 

[GoatNo1]

Bigest rivalries since 2011:

11: nole - rafa 6-0
12: nole - fed 3-2
13: nole - rafa 3-3
14: nole - fed 3-3
15: nole - muzza 6-1
16: nole - muzza 3-2
17: fed - rafa 4-0
18: nole - rafa 1-1
19: nole - rafa 1-1
20: nole - rafa 1-1
21: nole - medvedev 2-1
22: nole - OZI and USO governments
23: nole - alcaraz 2-1

 

[nolefam_2024]

Bigest rivalries since 2011:

11: nole - rafa
12: nole - fed
13: nole - rafa
14: nole - fed
15: nole - muzza
16: nole - muzza
17: fed - rafa
18: nole - rafa
19: nole - rafa
20: nole - rafa
21: nole - medvedev
22: nole - OZI and USO governments
23: nole - alcaraz

How is Nole Murray better rivalry in 2015 than Nole Murray?

 

[InsideOut900]

2016 first half
2017
2019
2018
2016 2nd half
2021
2020
2022
2023

Mostly getting worse each year as Big 3 continously aged and no one at their level came to replace them.

 

[nolefam_2024]

2016 first half
2017
2019
2018
2016 2nd half
2021
2020
2022
2023

Mostly getting worse each year as Big 3 continously aged and no one at their level came to replace them.

They are not playing each other anymore. Especially Rafole who are same age played less and less after 2015. Rafa won 2 usopens and Nole was out of 1 by injury and injured in another while in AO Nole got banned.

Nole won 2 usopens and Rafa was injured in one and got injured in another. Nole won one French where Rafa was injured as well.

They played less and less after their peak rivalry.

 

[GoatNo1]

How is Nole Murray better rivalry in 2015 than Nole Murray?

????

 

[nolefam_2024]

????

Nole Roger

 

[GoatNo1]

Nole Roger

Rank	Best Rank	Country	Name	+/-	Pts. +/-	Points
1 CH	1	SRB	Novak Djokovic	-	-	16585
2	1	GBR	Andy Murray	-	-	8945
3	1	SUI	Roger Federer	-	-	8265

but it does not matter much he won the most important big matches vs both of them and lose just one masters F to each. played 7 big natches vs muzza and 6 vs fed!

 

[Mazz Retic]

Djokovic-Wawrinka rivalry 2015

 

[nolefam_2024]

Djokovic-Wawrinka rivalry 2015

1 GS final vs Fedkovic 2 GS finals, 3 masters finals and atp final, don't think so.

 

[Mazz Retic]

1 GS final vs Fedkovic 2 GS finals, 3 masters finals and atp final, don't think so.

True

 

[messiahrobins]

There has not been a single year where top guys have faced strong competition in 2018 onwards. Djokovic and Nadal didn't face each other post Wimbledon 2018

Djokovic and Nadal faced each other only once in slam in 2019

Reduced year 2020

Djokovic and Medvedev faced each other only 3 times 2021

Sinner is not great player yet 2022

Djokovic and Alcaraz have not faced each other a lot in 2023

Great stuff mate. Tennis is in a mess at the moment as therr isnt a prolonged rivalry as younsay since 2018. Half a decade now. Djokovic is carrying tennis tbh. Best to keep putting him down to keep him fired up to shut people up. He is trying off court to change the tour as well but he is against estabishment politics.