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WildVolley

Legend
I like the way it looks. I'm just hoping that it has good toe box width and room. I'm still nostalgic for the days when Yonex made shoes that fit those of us with wide feet.
 

WildVolley

Legend
I'm going to wait until someone can report back after testing the wide before I pull the trigger, but I like the looks of this shoe.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
I like the way it looks. I'm just hoping that it has good toe box width and room. I'm still nostalgic for the days when Yonex made shoes that fit those of us with wide feet.
which maximalist model of yonex's past was the widest in the toebox?
 

WildVolley

Legend
which maximalist model of yonex's past was the widest in the toebox?
Don't know that I'd have called them "maximalist," but over a decade ago, the Yonex SHT-304s (?) had great toe box width (was a lightweight and fast shoe), and the original Fusion Rev was notoriously wide in the forefoot.
 
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d-quik

Hall of Fame
original Fusion Rev
Ahh yes I have heard very little of these, but from what little I DO hear, it was great for every category besides durability. Very odd because I call the current generations the ToeCrusheRev 2/3/4/etc... due to how narrow they run now.
 

WildVolley

Legend
Ahh yes I have heard very little of these, but from what little I DO hear, it was great for every category besides durability. Very odd because I call the current generations the ToeCrusheRev 2/3/4/etc... due to how narrow they run now.
I tried the ToeCrushRev 2 and then gave up on that line of shoes. Yonex narrowed all their lasts, but still offers a few wide models. Unfortunately, the Sonicage 2 wide was actually narrower in the toe box than the old D width 304s.

I've found the same problem with some of NB models. The lasts are so different than a 2E NB model is often narrower than another NB model in size D.
 

innoVAShaun

G.O.A.T.
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WildVolley

Legend
From the side the toe box look fine. From the top, it looks very narrow. Somebody with wide feet needs to test the wide version.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
Power Cushion Durable was very roomy in the toebox (and a 6 month guarantee), super comfy and light.

PCD II was not quite as wide but wide enough and light and comfy (and 6 month warranty).

PCD III was too narrow.
Maximalist means heavy though :(
 
The wide version is indicated on the Yonex site as "4E" - I assume that this doesn't mean 4E in western/US sizes? Does anyone have the decoder ring to translate 4E?
 

WildVolley

Legend
The wide version is indicated on the Yonex site as "4E" - I assume that this doesn't mean 4E in western/US sizes? Does anyone have the decoder ring to translate 4E?
Unfortunately, shoe makers aren't at all consistent with width. Some shoe makers use width and volume interchangeably. So a shoe that is just as narrow as another shoe will be marked as wide because there's more volume allowed by the upper. Sometimes this allows someone who has wide feet enough room by allowing the sides to stretch out over the insole and outsole. I prefer shoes that actually have a wider outsole and insole.
 
Unfortunately, shoe makers aren't at all consistent with width. Some shoe makers use width and volume interchangeably. So a shoe that is just as narrow as another shoe will be marked as wide because there's more volume allowed by the upper. Sometimes this allows someone who has wide feet enough room by allowing the sides to stretch out over the insole and outsole. I prefer shoes that actually have a wider outsole and insole.
Right but within one maker - in this case Yonex -- there's prolly some consistency, isn't there? Or, no?
 

PD1978

Semi-Pro
Thinking about ordering these in wide version.

Are Yonex 2E like NB 2E?

Also, I’m a 12.5 in NB. These only come in 12 or 13. Do they run true, short or long?
 
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d-quik

Hall of Fame
He says in that video that the heel slippage went away after break-in.

How exactly does breaking in a shoe cuse the heel slippage go away? What actually happens to the ankle collar from a structural standpoint that can cause this?
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
He says in that video that the heel slippage went away after break-in.

How exactly does breaking in a shoe cuse the heel slippage go away? What actually happens to the ankle collar from a structural standpoint that can cause this?
My guess is it has to do with the stiffness of the (out)sole. A new outsole is less pliable and will want to straighten back out when bent (like he shows when lifting only the heel). Then all the ancillary materials around the heel also break in and are more pliable and there's less resistance when you move around when taking steps.
 

Boomersooner

New User

"Don’t Buy That Shoe Unless It Slips At The Heel!​

Sounds like the wrong advice, doesn’t it? In many cases, though, it is not. If you have a flexible, pronated, or loose-jointed foot, a properly fitted shoe will tend to slip at the heel. This is particularly true until the shoe conforms to your foot."

This is directly from a major orthotics company. Not gonna name it because I don't know the "rules" (long time lurker, pretty new poster lol). I do know my Barricade 13s slipped at first, but now luck better than any shoe I've ever worn.
 

Boomersooner

New User
At any rate, I'm trying these based on 2 things. One, how cool FDZack says they are (I live in the deep south and I double sock) and two the spring they give. I need any help with speed I can get. Also him comparing them to the comfy GP Turbo (which was the hottest shoe by far I've ever worn).
 

The Big Kahuna

Hall of Fame
I am very curious to see what Zach means in his review about having the sensation that you could ROLL in these shoes, even though he claims that are stable. If you think you are going to roll (stable or not) - as he pointed out - could that actually lead to more ankle rolls? It was a curious statement.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
I am very curious to see what Zach means in his review about having the sensation that you could ROLL in these shoes, even though he claims that are stable. If you think you are going to roll (stable or not) - as he pointed out - could that actually lead to more ankle rolls? It was a curious statement.
From what I got, he was talking about them having, like the GP Turbo/Zoom Zero, a "cloud sensation" you get from the shoes where its cushioned its a bit like you're "floating" rather than having ground contact bc theyre cushioned and supportive + the diving board shank - so you just have to get used to the feeling that your feet aren't feeling the ground as much - but as he said, if you're an ankle roller/sprainer, you would want different shoes anyway
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Surely you mean to say MORE resistance right? :oops:
After break in, the materials are more pliable, so you'd have less resistance to bending the materials (relative to a new shoe). So it fits better and can hug your heel better. I'm just hypothesizing - but it makes sense in my head.
 

Jaen

New User
He says in that video that the heel slippage went away after break-in.

How exactly does breaking in a shoe cuse the heel slippage go away? What actually happens to the ankle collar from a structural standpoint that can cause this?
I feel like the foam under your heel compresses molds your heel a bit after breaking in so your foot sits a little lower and is sort of sucked into the shoe a bit. That and the heel counter also softens up a bit which will also make it mold to and warp around your foot more.
 
Compared them to the GP Turbo with more support and more durable uppers

That was good: I wonder if what he means by "reduced court feel" -- because of the heel cushioning/cloud he describes -- is a function of his (Zach's) full full foot striking style of movement.

And if you are on the forefoot, whether court feel is more or less in line with, say, the Eclipsion Vs (which have imo very decent ground feel)?
 
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