evermilion
Rookie
Could anyone with experience compare it to Mizuno Exceed Tour 5/6?
did you guys feel any heel slippage at all with this shoes ? This shoes sound great to me ,, but only thing that i am afraid of is Heel slippage foot doctor mentioned in his video..When I had both the regular and wide the soles and heel felt the same. It just felt like there was extra of the plastic top part to allow for a wider foot. Basically just less restrictive in the toe box area
No i did not.did you have any issues with Heel slippage or unstable ankle ? Thanks
Yonex: heavier but better support.Could anyone with experience compare it to Mizuno Exceed Tour 5/6?
Better tongue than the Mizuno I am betting. How would you compare with other speed shoes on the market right now that you have tried based on overall performance?Yonex: lighter/faster; grippier; not as much cushion nor ankle hold as the Mizuno.
Very nice feedback here! Thank you. Same question to you - How would you compare with other speed shoes on the market right now that you have tried based on overall performance (outside of the Yonex brand)? I am thinking specifically of the Mizuno Exceed Tour 6, the Asics Solution Speed FF3, the Babloat Jet Mach 3, etc. - how would you rank these with the best of the speed shoes on the market now (specifically in the area of stability and cushioning)?I just bought the Ad Accel MGC US11 and for me it is the most glove like fit of all the Yonex shoes. I really like the Yonex GC outsole, which works very well on astro turf, grass and clay. With the FR5 and E5, the TPU cage in the mid foot is excessive, and I have to cinch down the laces to feel one and secure with the shoe. That tightening down of the laces makes me want to take off the FR5 after tennis, and my feet feel like they were slightly binded. The E5 is slightly better, but both cages bend weird for my V metatarsal (little toe bone) and creates discomfort if I lace the closest hole, so I skip the 2nd outer lace hole to avoid that crunch.
I have no issue with the Ad Accel because of the PU weave material is more flexible and the shoe bends more at the seam of the upper on the anterior (yes the outside of the foot/shoe is "anterior" and NOT "lateral" like that podiatrist reviewer repeated said in the review, and I'm not a podiatrist!).
The fit is more like a sock snug fit, so it hugs the mid foot better than the TPU cage uppers of the FR5 and E5, which leave a bit of space around lateral areas. The S3 is a very close second, but the TPU upper for me needed more break in and it's got more space under the arch area. The toe box shape, where many people don't pay attention to when they claim shoes run short, is in between the FR5 and E5, where the taper angle is a little gentler than the FR5 and more pronounced compared to the E5, with the most gentle taper (widest toe area) is the S3. The AA heel support isn't particularly pronounced, so for me it's a runner's knot for a secure fit. The tongue is cushioned enough to be comfortable, and the weave upper on the anterior side flexes much better than the hard TPU of the other Yonex shoes.
As for astroturf and grass performance, the AA is probably my favorite shoe since the Vapor 9.5 grass cross outsole. The shank does respond livelier than the E5 MGC and LCS-TC01 grass and even the Vapor 9.5, but that's based on memory since I haven't used one in 7 years. Stability is very good with directional changes on serve and volley, back pedaling, and staying low. Sliding on sandy astro turf is stable, with good grip when I pressured down to stop. That outsole pattern Yonex produces is quite ingenious and better than traditional grass nubs. And I didn't get kicked off grass court clubs, which have banned traditional grass outsoles.
How was the stability compared to the Solution Speed FF3s?I found them to be much more comfortable and cushioned that the solution speeds - similar quickness, but not as low to the ground/zero support feel I got with the solution speed. Gel Res is a different shoe - similar level of comfort, but Gel Res has more support and is a more all-around shoe vs. the Ad Accel being a speedier shoe.
Way better - I hated the solution speeds - I felt like I was playing barefoot and it was all on me for stops / starts. This is a much better compromise as a faster court ff with less stability than those.How was the stability compared to the Solution Speed FF3s?
Better tongue than the Mizuno I am betting. How would you compare with other speed shoes on the market right now that you have tried based on overall performance?
I'm sorry, I thought you meant the Enforce tours (which are heavier and have better ankle support). The Exceeds are lighter but less supportive. I would also say that the Exceeds feel lower to the ground. Cushioning in the Ad Accels might be slightly better. Definitely not in the GP Turbo category (not sure why foot Dr. Zach thinks that).Could anyone with experience compare it to Mizuno Exceed Tour 5/6?
Just got a pair of these in wide, in my search for low, stable, wide shoes that are comfortable (partly based on your recommendation).Just got mine; I wouldn't say they were particularly wide either. I do wish that they -- and most tennis shoes -- were less pointy, which seems more about looks and less about function. I normally wear an EE or an EEE depending upon the last (talking street/dress shoes here).
I can make them work by doing the following: I wear really thin socks; and I gently widen the forefoot area using a shoe stretcher. The material Yonex uses is very forgiving here and molds quite well; and eventually to your foot.
Edit: And, I often take out the insole. This is key.
Also, this is just in my living room; I still have to see how they are on the court.
So I'm keepin' em.
Just got a pair of these in wide, in my search for low, stable, wide shoes that are comfortable (partly based on your recommendation).
Point of clarification - do you take out the insoles and replace them with something, or play without insoles?
The pair I got today seem (barely) wide enough for me, but I'm definitely experiencing some tightness that would be benefitted by a lack of insole, or a thinner one. I also have a shoe stretcher that I will try gently. Thanks!
I tried their sonic 4e and I think it would have a hard time passing as even a slightly wide normal fit let alone 2e, 4e. I’d buy Yonex everything if the shoes actually fit.I like the way it looks. I'm just hoping that it has good toe box width and room. I'm still nostalgic for the days when Yonex made shoes that fit those of us with wide feet.
I nearly always take out the insole. And for me the fit is great. And yes, I will use a shoe stretcher if that doesn't work.
Of course, as with most tennis shoes I've ever worn, when you first put them on they feel tight in the forefoot; but even in just 10 minutes or so -- at least for me -- they start to conform to your feet. Eventually I can put the insoles in if I wish to. However, I come from a barefoot training background (competitive sprinter), so I do not need or want a lot of cushioning. I like low-to-the-ground, minimalist court shoes.
They are a bit sticky on the court; and so far that isn't diminishing. These aren't perfect, but nothing is, eh? -- at least in this world!![]()
Yep, that is essentially correct. Don't get me started on this weird issue with shoes haha!I also found that the shoe tapers down in the front and ends up pretty narrow and long.
I would be curious to hear your comparison (or just preference/observations) between these and the Eclipsion 5 once you have tested, as I remember you have been very complimentary of the Eclipsions.i got a pair of this shoes finally. been wearing them around the house,, haven't played tennis yet. but it feels surprisingly great right out of the box. very nice secure feel with nice cushioning![]()
Did you get the regular or wide?i got a pair of this shoes finally.
wideDid you get the regular or wide?
Curious about length/width compared to Eclipsion *3*
Thanks! Are you able to compare the width/length to the Eclipsion 3?wide
Length is the same. but width is bit wider on the wide version compared to the Eclipsion 5.Thanks! Are you able to compare the width/length to the Eclipsion 3?
Haven't tried those except for the SS FF3, which for me has too much of a flange angle to be comfortable, and the FF midsole is the only speed shoe my knees feel sore after a match, which made me throw it out. It is not as good for me as the Power Cushion or the Diadora Blushield. which the Diadora Speed Fly 4 is still my favorite, with much better cushioning, stabler, snugger fit but feels higher off the ground, and weighs the same as the YAA. The look is fugly, and the YAA in red in nice! Other speed/comp shoes include Adidas Ubersonic 4 (45g lighter, upper isn't as padded, has less give and is uncomfortable for me, and lightstrike has less cushioning).Very nice feedback here! Thank you. Same question to you - How would you compare with other speed shoes on the market right now that you have tried based on overall performance (outside of the Yonex brand)? I am thinking specifically of the Mizuno Exceed Tour 6, the Asics Solution Speed FF3, the Babloat Jet Mach 3, etc. - how would you rank these with the best of the speed shoes on the market now (specifically in the area of stability and cushioning)?
NOOOOOOOOOO!d-quik,
Unfortunately, it does not looks like we are expecting any wide in the new Ad Accels launching.
Sorry,
Brittany, TW
Ad Accel is a MUCH better shoe than the Exceed Tour IMO. More cushioned, quicker, more stable, and snappier on court. Best of all it does not have that stupid short and thin tongue on the WET.Could anyone with experience compare it to Mizuno Exceed Tour 5/6?
Best Speed Shoe on the market right now IMO. Beats the SS FF3; Ubersonic, Jet Mach 3, and Vapor everything by a country mile. In a class by itself at the moment.Haven't tried those except for the SS FF3, which for me has too much of a flange angle to be comfortable, and the FF midsole is the only speed shoe my knees feel sore after a match, which made me throw it out. It is not as good for me as the Power Cushion or the Diadora Blushield. which the Diadora Speed Fly 4 is still my favorite, with much better cushioning, stabler, snugger fit but feels higher off the ground, and weighs the same as the YAA. The look is fugly, and the YAA in red in nice! Other speed/comp shoes include Adidas Ubersonic 4 (45g lighter, upper isn't as padded, has less give and is uncomfortable for me, and lightstrike has less cushioning).
I have since bought the hard court version of the AA. It broke in fast, good stability and traction on slow plexicushion courts. The MAC vs the MGC difference in in the weight, with the MAC being 17g heavier, and weighing only 4g less than the Eclipsion 5 The outsole looks thicker than the MGC. The outsole is grippy, but like the Sonicage 3, the outsole rubber is pretty soft and durability is at best below average. However, like the S3, I bought it in Japan where it is less than $70 retail, which makes it a very decent shoe, given the price/performance, but not environmentally friendly given the short life span.
I have a pair of each and really like them both. Eclipsions are a bit more cushioned and stable. Ad Accel is close on both fronts, but quicker than the Eclipsion. To make an analogy, the Eclipsion is like a BMW and the Ad Accel like a Porsche. Both are speedy, cushioned, stable, and have great playability. The Ad Accel is just a bit more lightweight and likely less durable.I would be curious to hear your comparison (or just preference/observations) between these and the Eclipsion 5 once you have tested, as I remember you have been very complimentary of the Eclipsions.
Yes. The Ad Accel does have a longer tapered toe. I am actually going down a half size to see if the fit is better. I normally buy my shoes a 1/2 size larger anyway to prevent toe-jamming. I don't know that you have to do that with this shoe.Thanks! I'm finding that the shoe has (barely) enough width for me, but it's quite tight around the top of my foot. I remembered that someone once told me that I have a high instep, so I'm guessing that's the problem. I haven't really worn the shoes around so I can still return them. I'm debating putting a shoe stretcher in to see if that helps, but then I can't return them. A bit of a gamble. And my shoe stretcher only stretches length and width. I'm wondering whether it would still work.
I also found that the shoe tapers down in the front and ends up pretty narrow and long. Kinda weird for a wide format shoe.
I agree with you. Switched to the Ad Accel. It is WAY better in all facets than the Speed FF3.Way better - I hated the solution speeds - I felt like I was playing barefoot and it was all on me for stops / starts. This is a much better compromise as a faster court ff with less stability than those.
It's a great game day shoe for a single match, but for multiple 3 set match days, it isn't as comfortable as the Diadora Speed Fly 4, which has much better cushioning inside and underfoot. The Duratech rubber is much more durable than the Yonex Endurance, and is a smidge better than the Enudrance II of the Eclipsion 5 and Fusion Rev 5. I burned through the outsole in my 1st YAA in under 6 weeks. The Sonicage is as bad, and showing bald rubber already.Best Speed Shoe on the market right now IMO. Beats the SS FF3; Ubersonic, Jet Mach 3, and Vapor everything by a country mile. In a class by itself at the moment.
How many weeks did the Fly 4 last with similar levels of play?burned through the outsole in my 1st YAA in under 6 weeks
Easily 8 weeks, but it does wear in the big toe area first because of my serve, and how its shaped.How many weeks did the Fly 4 last with similar levels of play?