Yonex EZONE 2020 AO

PierreMBK

PierreMBK

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RandomAsian said:
Thanks! I was just trying to find the thickness so when the stock replacement grip begins to flatten I can find one with a similar thickness (maybe more cushioning)
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I'm also looking for a good alternative to the stock grip. The same is "AC128EX Synthetic Leather Excel Pro Grip" but impossible to find. The only one we can find is "AC126EX Synthetic Leather Tour Grip" but it's not the same. Thinner (1,5mm Vs 1,6mm). Some said this AC126EX is bad. Not as good as AC128EX.

A good alternative was the Babolat Skin Feel but discontinued. Same happened with Prince ResiThin (in Europe, impossible to find now).

Some talked about Tourna Pro Thin also for a very thin grip. Maybe Tourna Pro Tour is more suited.

I'd like to try Wilson Sublime but it's thicker (1,8mm Vs 1,6mm), or Head Hydrosorb Tour (1,75mm) which I particularly like. Hope it won't be too thick.
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DJTaurus

DJTaurus

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PierreMBK said:
I'm also looking for a good alternative to the stock grip. The same is "AC128EX Synthetic Leather Excel Pro Grip" but impossible to find. The only one we can find is "AC126EX Synthetic Leather Tour Grip" but it's not the same. Thinner (1,5mm Vs 1,6mm). Some said this AC126EX is bad. Not as good as AC128EX.

A good alternative was the Babolat Skin Feel but discontinued. Same happened with Prince ResiThin (in Europe, impossible to find now).

Some talked about Tourna Pro Thin also for a very thin grip. Maybe Tourna Pro Tour is more suited.

I'd like to try Wilson Sublime but it's thicker (1,8mm Vs 1,6mm), or Head Hydrosorb Tour (1,75mm) which I particularly like. Hope it won't be too thick.
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Give it a try mate :)

Tecnifibre ATP X-Tra Feel Replacement Grip White | Tennis Warehouse

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Thiem's 1HB

Thiem's 1HB

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PierreMBK said:
I'm also looking for a good alternative to the stock grip. The same is "AC128EX Synthetic Leather Excel Pro Grip" but impossible to find. The only one we can find is "AC126EX Synthetic Leather Tour Grip" but it's not the same. Thinner (1,5mm Vs 1,6mm). Some said this AC126EX is bad. Not as good as AC128EX.

A good alternative was the Babolat Skin Feel but discontinued. Same happened with Prince ResiThin (in Europe, impossible to find now).

Some talked about Tourna Pro Thin also for a very thin grip. Maybe Tourna Pro Tour is more suited.

I'd like to try Wilson Sublime but it's thicker (1,8mm Vs 1,6mm), or Head Hydrosorb Tour (1,75mm) which I particularly like. Hope it won't be too thick.
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126EX is pure junk. Stiff, plasticky and rigid. It's also noticeably heavier than the stock grip. I wouldn't recommend it as a replacement.

Haven't tried the 128EX but I suspect it will be a similar thing, just with dimples.
 
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Ash Tennis

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Thiem's 1HB said:
126EX is pure junk. Stiff, plasticky and rigid. It's also noticeably heavier than the stock grip. I wouldn't recommend it as a replacement.

Haven't tried the 128EX but I suspect it will be a similar thing, just with dimples.
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How is tourna leather grip? I’m thinking of buying that.
 
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JeffG

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Thiem's 1HB said:
That grip is significantly thicker than the stock grip. Probably noticeably heavier too.
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Not really. That TF grip is thinner than listed on the label and only weighs about 12 grams installed on a 4 3/8 grip. It’s not an exact replacement but it’s pretty close.
 
Thiem's 1HB

Thiem's 1HB

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JeffG said:
Not really. That TF grip is thinner than listed on the label and only weighs about 12 grams installed on a 4 3/8 grip. It’s not an exact replacement but it’s pretty close.
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1.9mm is thick as bricks. That's the equivalent of almost 4 overgrips.

The Yonex stock grip is 1.2-1.3mm and weighs 14.5g.
 
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kblades

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I just bought one of the Babolat Syntec Team grips to try. Skin feel was previously my grip of choice, but they’ve apparently been discontinued and replaced by the Syntec Team. I believe the Team is actually slightly thinner, I asked on the Babolat thread and I believe I was told Skin Feel was 1.7mm and Team is 1.5mm. For some reason, TW is not carrying the Syntec Team, the only place I could find it was one of the other online retailers.
 
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ArliHawk

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kdm711 said:
I just bought one of the Babolat Syntec Team grips to try. Skin feel was previously my grip of choice, but they’ve apparently been discontinued and replaced by the Syntec Team. I believe the Team is actually slightly thinner, I asked on the Babolat thread and I believe I was told Skin Feel was 1.7mm and Team is 1.5mm. For some reason, TW is not carrying the Syntec Team, the only place I could find it was one of the other online retailers.
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Skin feel was 1.55
 
PierreMBK

PierreMBK

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Thiem's 1HB said:
1.9mm is thick as bricks. That's the equivalent of almost 4 overgrips.

The Yonex stock grip is 1.2-1.3mm and weighs 14.5g.
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I've tried the Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel replacement grip and it's thinner than his description suggests. Very stretchy, light, and not very cushioned. I lacked comfort and preferred thinner but firmer replacement grip with better cushioning, not as stretchy.
But this Tecnifibre grip is a good alternative for those who really want to feel the bevels.

Stock grip on last Ezone series (2018 and 2020) is AC128EX which is 1,6mm.

Babolat Skin Feel was a good alternative, better than Syntec lite which is very light and not cushioned. Very firm on the handle (not very comfortable, kind of minimalist grip), you're really in contact with bevels. Very thin grip. Good to reduce grip size and add an overgrip and still feel bevels. It reduces the weight of the racquet but if you add an overgrip you keep approximately the same balance as stock version.

Prince ResiPro and Head Hydrosorb Pro are nice grip (good comfort) but slightly thicker and heavier than stock AC128EX.
 
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Ash Tennis

Professional
PierreMBK said:
I've tried the Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel replacement grip and it's thinner than his description suggests. Very stretchy, light, and not very cushioned. I lacked comfort and preferred thinner but more firm replacement grip with better cushioning.
But this Tecnifibre grip is a good alternative for those who really want to feel the bevels.

Stock grip on last Ezone series (2018 and 2020) is AC128EX which is 1,6mm.

Babolat Skin Feel was a good alternative, better than Syntec lite which is very light and not cushioned. Very firm on the handle (not very comfortable, kind of minimalist grip), you're really in contact with bevels. Very thin grip. Good to reduce grip size and add an Overgrip and still feel bevels. It reduces the weight of the racquet but if you add an overgrip you keep the same balance as stock version.

Prince ResiPro and Head Hydrosorb Pro are nice grip (good comfort) but slightly thicker and heavier than stock AC128EX.
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Thanks for the info
 
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JeffG

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PierreMBK said:
I've tried the Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel replacement grip and it's thinner than his description suggests. Very stretchy, light, and not very cushioned.
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Exactly. The X-Tra Feel grip is not 1.9mm as listed on the label. It is thinner, more like 1.4-1.5 mm. It’s also very light, only 12 grams installed on a size 3 TF grip.

Lots of folks who have actually used the grip all say the same thing. I have TF X-tra Feel grips on two Yonex racquets right now. Tennis Warehouse staff has recommended them as replacements on Yonez racquets. They are close to the originals.
 
Thiem's 1HB

Thiem's 1HB

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JeffG said:
Exactly. The X-Tra Feel grip is not 1.9mm as listed on the label. It is thinner, more like 1.4-1.5 mm. It’s also very light, only 12 grams installed on a size 3 TF grip.

Lots of folks who have actually used the grip all say the same thing. I have TF X-tra Feel grips on two Yonex racquets right now. Tennis Warehouse staff has recommended them as replacements on Yonez racquets. They are close to the originals.
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If those are the specs, then its not even close to the original stock grip.
 
PierreMBK

PierreMBK

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Thiem's 1HB said:
No, your information is all wrong. AC128EX is NOT the stock grip. Yonex don't sell the stock grip.

I have a 2020 Ezone stock grip right in front of me. Like I said previously, it's 1.2-1.3mm and 14.5g.
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I have 2 Ezone 2018 in front of me too and had 1 2020 brand new demo racquet and it was also the same grip. It would be surprising Yonex doesn't sell the stock grip. If I compare mine and the picture of AC128EX (NOT AC126EX) it's the same, with this kind of fake perforations, and have read here in talk tennis people telling it was the same. If you are sure and measured it, well I trust you. Just note you can have difference between the measure Yonex wrote on its website and the reality when the grip is on your handle such as Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel replacement grip, depending if the grip is stretchy, light, very cushioned or not etc.

By the way we are here to share not criticize each other (in reference to previous posts). I would be happy to learn new things if I'm wrong sharing with people here.

If you have info we don't have, well you can share it also.
 
haqq777

haqq777

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@PierreMBK I ordered AC128EX from Yonex account on Amazon (link here). It is exactly the same as my original grip of 2020 Ezone 100s so you were not wrong at all. It feels same in hand as well. It also measured same in thickness coming at around 1.55mm using a digital caliper (same as one of my new replacement grip I took off my 2020 Ezone 100 to compare). Obviously once it is used a bit, it will compress. Also, just to put it out there, the trimmed grip that came off from my 2020 Ezone for L3 handle weighs 13.0g.
McLovin said:
It’s next to impossible to find replacement Yonex base grips. The closest you’ll find is Tourna Pro Tour or Prince ResiThin. See:

Let's Gather All Grip Specs (Weight & Thickness) Into One Thread

Hi All, 1. We have grip specs scattered all over the board in roughly 70-80 threads, dated all the way back to 2004. Seems like somebody is always asking what is the lightest, heaviest, or thinnest grip. I've gotten us started with my own records and by compiling info from most all posts on the...
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Amazon. Link above.
 
Thiem's 1HB

Thiem's 1HB

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PierreMBK said:
I have 2 Ezone 2018 in front of me too and had 1 2020 brand new demo racquet and it was also the same grip. It would be surprising Yonex doesn't sell the stock grip. If I compare mine and the picture of AC128EX (NOT AC126EX) it's the same, with this kind of fake perforations, and have read here in talk tennis people telling it was the same. If you are sure and measured it, well I trust you. Just note you can have difference between the measure Yonex wrote on its website and the reality when the grip is on your handle such as Tecnifibre X-Tra Feel replacement grip, depending if the grip is stretchy, light, very cushioned or not etc.

By the way we are here to share not criticize each other (in reference to previous posts). I would be happy to learn new things if I'm wrong sharing with people here.

If you have info we don't have, well you can share it also.
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I'm quite happy to buy the 128EX and compare it directly, but if it's 1.6mm in thickness, its not the same grip (you can print dimples on anything).
 
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sanister

sanister

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haqq777 said:
@PierreMBK I ordered AC128EX from Yonex account on Amazon (link here). It is exactly the same as my original grip of 2020 Ezone 100s so you were not wrong at all. It feels same in hand as well. It also measured same in thickness coming at around 1.55mm using a digital caliper (same as one of my new replacement grip I took off my 2020 Ezone 100 to compare). Obviously once it is used a bit, it will compress. Also, just to put it out there, the trimmed grip that came off from my 2020 Ezone for L3 handle weighs 13.0g.

Amazon. Link above.
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Agreed.Ordered mine from stringers world last year for daughters previous generation EZONES and it is the exact same as what comes on racquet.Its the same grip for 2020 version as well.
 
sanister

sanister

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Thiem's 1HB said:
It's not the same the same grip. This has been asked and answered many, many times before across multiple threads
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Oh really?Show me which threads say it isn't the same.You have no clue what you are talking about, sorry.It is absolutely the same & there are actually plenty of threads saying the opposite of what you are suggesting.I purchased multiple last year myself & @Yoneyama a poster with a lot of Yonex experience too has verified that.Not that it should be hard to tell,if you have held one in hand it's a no brainer.Try it yourself first & you'll see.
 
McLovin

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Ok guys, lets take a breather and review the discussion:

According to this thread, the stock Yonex grip has been measured by two different people from two different frames that are ~ 10 years apart. Both say it is 1.4mm thick.

According to TW's site (circa 2013), the VCORE Tour 97 used a 'Yonex Synthetic Grip' (see here), which is what what used for one of the measurements in the thread linked above.

According to TW's site (circa today), the EZONE, VCORE and VCORE Pro lines still list 'Yonex Synthetic' as their base grip.

According to the Yonex site, the AC126EX is called the 'Synthetic Tour Grip', and is 1.5mm thick (see here).

So, until someone can get a hold of both a fresh EZONE/VCORE/VCORE Pro and a fresh AC126EX and measure them both, the prevailing conclusion is that they are not the same grip.
 
haqq777

haqq777

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McLovin said:
Ok guys, lets take a breather and review the discussion:

According to this thread, the stock Yonex grip has been measured by two different people from two different frames that are ~ 10 years apart. Both say it is 1.4mm thick.

According to TW's site (circa 2013), the VCORE Tour 97 used a 'Yonex Synthetic Grip' (see here), which is what what used for one of the measurements in the thread linked above.

According to TW's site (circa today), the EZONE, VCORE and VCORE Pro lines still list 'Yonex Synthetic' as their base grip.

According to the Yonex site, the AC126EX is called the 'Synthetic Tour Grip', and is 1.5mm thick (see here).

So, until someone can get a hold of both a fresh EZONE/VCORE/VCORE Pro and a fresh AC126EX and measure them both, the prevailing conclusion is that they are not the same grip.
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We are talking about AC128EX not the AC126EX. I measured my 2020 Ezone with a digital caliper for both, a brand new one I ordered from Amazon, and one that came off a new Ezone. Both have same thickness, the trimmed one when taken off was maybe .05mm less but that could just be user error or the fact that grip stretches when installed. I'm not sure if other users have measured thickness of a fresh off a new racquet handle grip or if used. Obviously used will be compressed a bit. Not to mention they feel the same in hand. See my post above.
 
dje31

dje31

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Re: OEM grips, when I got my 2012-era EZXi98s from TW, I asked them to remove the OEM grips, save and send them to me, and wrap the grips with Fairway leather. No OEM grips arrived in the box, but the Fairways were installed.

When I called, they said that the OEM were so thin, they tore / shredded when removed. Either that, or they just forgot to send them. Or, being model end closeouts, maybe they were just old.
 
McLovin

McLovin

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haqq777 said:
We are talking about AC128EX not the AC126EX
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The 128 is listed as 1.6mm on the Yonex site.

However, if that's the case, I'd recommend requesting a line be put into the 'Gather grip thickness' thread as such. This way we now have a place to reference.
 
Faris

Faris

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McLovin said:
Ok guys, lets take a breather and review the discussion:

According to this thread, the stock Yonex grip has been measured by two different people from two different frames that are ~ 10 years apart. Both say it is 1.4mm thick.

According to TW's site (circa 2013), the VCORE Tour 97 used a 'Yonex Synthetic Grip' (see here), which is what what used for one of the measurements in the thread linked above.

According to TW's site (circa today), the EZONE, VCORE and VCORE Pro lines still list 'Yonex Synthetic' as their base grip.

According to the Yonex site, the AC126EX is called the 'Synthetic Tour Grip', and is 1.5mm thick (see here).

So, until someone can get a hold of both a fresh EZONE/VCORE/VCORE Pro and a fresh AC126EX and measure them both, the prevailing conclusion is that they are not the same grip.
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Ok, all good points so lets dissect this:

Plenty of variables here. Grip measurements could been taken after usage and .1mm loss in thickness or so (even more) would be pretty realistic if grip coming from older racquets..lots of stretching going on when installing and then grip gets squished so much its bound to lose thickness.

TW lists all its Yonex racquets that come with synthetic grip as Yonex Synthetic. I just checked out their 2018 lineup and current and it says the same for that, same as what wayback machine tells me for 2013.. not a good indicator or making any case one way or the other.

The ac128ex is actually listed as 1.6mm not 1.5mm but feel wise I've installed it on Yonex racquets for customers at pro shop I used to work at and its similarly thin feeling and prone to tearing...very flimsy as well just like ..

When u install a grip it stretches and gets thinner. There is no way that whats on the packaging is going to be the same thickness once grip is installed. We can only go by how it feels in hand or maybe by comparing fresh grip taken off new racquet and measuring against a new grip out of packaging so..
 
McLovin

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Faris said:
The ac128ex is actually listed as 1.6mm not 1.5mm but feel wise I've installed it on Yonex racquets for customers at pro shop I used to work at and its similarly thin feeling and prone to tearing...very flimsy as well just like ..
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Yes, I mentioned that above. Some were talking about the 126, some the 128. The 126 actually 'looks' like the base grip, so that's what I referenced.
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When u install a grip it stretches and gets thinner. There is no way that whats on the packaging is going to be the same thickness once grip is installed. We can only go by how it feels in hand or maybe by comparing fresh grip taken off new racquet and measuring against a new grip out of packaging so..
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Unfortunately, the thread I linked to does not mention if measurements were performed on a brand-new plastic-just-off-the-handle frame, so I am assuming they did (otherwise, why bother measuring?).

However, if @haqq777 says he measured both fresh, then there's our answer. We just need some updates in the 'Gather all Grips' thread.

And yes, I realize .1mm is most likely not noticeable, especially if you're adding an overwrap, and sweat on top of that. But I'm just trying to go by what's logged here.
 
topspn

topspn

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Btw, chances are I might be on my own on this one. I played once with the stock PU then switched to Oehms leather. When I did that I removed the “vibration dampening mesh”. I literally used a Swiss Army knife to scrap off the handle. No ill effects of any kind, just didn’t want the additional dampening
 
Faris

Faris

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McLovin said:
Yes, I mentioned that above. Some were talking about the 126, some the 128. The 126 actually 'looks' like the base grip, so that's what I referenced.
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Base grip for Ezones? They come with the dimples type replacement grip which is 128. The 126 is non dimpled style. See pic below



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Unfortunately, the thread I linked to does not mention if measurements were performed on a brand-new plastic-just-off-the-handle frame, so I am assuming they did (otherwise, why bother measuring?).

However, if @haqq777 says he measured both fresh, then there's our answer. We just need some updates in the 'Gather all Grips' thread.

And yes, I realize .1mm is most likely not noticeable, especially if you're adding an overwrap, and sweat on top of that. But I'm just trying to go by what's logged here.
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Yeah no worries I understand..just giving my 2 cents. I agree we should update database but don't think OP for tht thread isn't active anymore..
 
sanister

sanister

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@McLovin honestly I didn't find even the brand new AC128EX to be very high quality either.If I didn't put it right & tried to lift it back I could see it sticking bad & tearing a bit since its flimsy.But in terms of replicating the original, in my experience this comes closest.Feels like exact same material and I'm willing to bet thats what they put on their new racquets.
 
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