Yonex Ezone Tour 98

mike841

Rookie
It's all preference, the way i swing doesn't go well with a head heavy balance, also beam width

I am faster with my RF97 than i am with a unweighted pure drive

RF97 has a different weight distribution to the 330 Yonexes though. With the RF97 the head comes through the swing well as it seems to have sufficient weight in the upper hoop. The 330s I've tried have always felt cumbersome particularly on serves as the weighting seems to be more in the middle of the racquet.
 

Dragy

Legend
RF97 has a different weight distribution to the 330 Yonexes though. With the RF97 the head comes through the swing well as it seems to have sufficient weight in the upper hoop. The 330s I've tried have always felt cumbersome particularly on serves as the weighting seems to be more in the middle of the racquet.
This should work just opposite to my understanding: less polarized frame would rotate faster, given same static weight and balance. RF97 actually has quite healthy Mgr/I.
 

Dragy

Legend
I try to keep my static between 330 ideally 335, just personal preference and what i find optimal for myself, purchased one with OG and dampner was about 340-341g and the tester was 335g
Well, that leaves not much room for customization unless you get an underspec one... Maybe try thin gauge string to steal couple of gr. for your handle?
 

mike841

Rookie
This should work just opposite to my understanding: less polarized frame would rotate faster, given same static weight and balance. RF97 actually has quite healthy Mgr/I.

Don't know, but apart from on serves, I've always found the RF97 easier to swing than the Yonex 330s.
 

Dragy

Legend
Don't know, but apart from on serves, I've always found the RF97 easier to swing than the Yonex 330s.
Exactly, because that 8g of difference is mostly at the buttcap:
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Dragy

Legend
Don't know, but apart from on serves, I've always found the RF97 easier to swing than the Yonex 330s.
But to add on, I actually think that difference is quite minor. I'd more likely believe your RF97 was a bit underspec in terms of SW.
 
You are joking aren't you?? The VCP 330 is 15g heavier. That's a huge difference.

As for 4HL, it all depends on the racquet and distribution of weight as to how manouverable it is. I have an 2HL XTC which is surprisingly easy to swing.
Very good point, once again demoing is the only way to tell haha
 
You are joking aren't you?? The VCP 330 is 15g heavier. That's a huge difference.

As for 4HL, it all depends on the racquet and distribution of weight as to how manouverable it is. I have an 2HL XTC which is surprisingly easy to swing.
No, I'm not joking, I notice a difference in maneuverability between the Vcore pro HD and the Vcore pro 330 AND I notice a slighter difference between the Vcore pro 330 and the Wilson RF Pro Staff. There will be a more pronounced difference in maneuverability between the Ezone Tour and the pro HD I think, based on balance. Not that it matters much, but the TW playtesters also mentioned this when testing the HD.
 
Don't know, but apart from on serves, I've always found the RF97 easier to swing than the Yonex 330s.
It is for you, but I would like to know how in the world it is. Every other review is basically the Yonex 330 is the RF97, but easier to swing and use over time, everyone that reviews it says this, I am in that category. If I play 3 singles matches in 1 day in 100 plus degree weather like we have in Dallas, then the RF97, on serves, becomes this club that I can't swing as fast on anymore. Sure, it is a great racket, but with the Yonex 330 and especially the HD, I don't lose any swing speed after 5-6 hours of singles play. I'm about 6'4" with long arms and of course therefore my toss is super high and my explosion up into the ball and swing path is really long and loopy on serve. The RF gets really heavy over time.
 

rader023

Rookie
It is for you, but I would like to know how in the world it is. Every other review is basically the Yonex 330 is the RF97, but easier to swing and use over time, everyone that reviews it says this, I am in that category. If I play 3 singles matches in 1 day in 100 plus degree weather like we have in Dallas, then the RF97, on serves, becomes this club that I can't swing as fast on anymore. Sure, it is a great racket, but with the Yonex 330 and especially the HD, I don't lose any swing speed after 5-6 hours of singles play. I'm about 6'4" with long arms and of course therefore my toss is super high and my explosion up into the ball and swing path is really long and loopy on serve. The RF gets really heavy over time.

A quick question as i am either getting the 97HD or the ezone tour, what string guage are you using on it, and what strings....haven't used such a tight string pattern since my VCORE tour 89 which is 16x20 but a very tight pattern obviously due to head size.
 

mike841

Rookie
It is for you, but I would like to know how in the world it is. Every other review is basically the Yonex 330 is the RF97, but easier to swing and use over time, everyone that reviews it says this, I am in that category. If I play 3 singles matches in 1 day in 100 plus degree weather like we have in Dallas, then the RF97, on serves, becomes this club that I can't swing as fast on anymore. Sure, it is a great racket, but with the Yonex 330 and especially the HD, I don't lose any swing speed after 5-6 hours of singles play. I'm about 6'4" with long arms and of course therefore my toss is super high and my explosion up into the ball and swing path is really long and loopy on serve. The RF gets really heavy over time.

Forget the 'reviews'. They're mostly designed to sell/promote racquets. I'm not saying that the RF97 is easy to play with, but it does go through the swing easier than the Yonex 330 because of its weight distribution. The 330 is much more middle weighted, so to me, it doesn't feel anything near as fluid. It's like if I took a 310g racquet and stuck a load of lead around the 6 o'clock area - it just doesn't feel fluid through the swing as the tip lacks weight. With the RF97, once you get it going it has a momentum of its own. I have a 345g Prestige MP for example that's a hell of alot easier to swing than most racquets weighing 330-335g. If you're playing 3 singles matches in a day, in 100f heat, then neither racquet is going to be good.
 
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I hear you, lol, for me though I just couldn't get the RF to work for me beyond 1 and a half singles matches, I love the racket, but I didn't have that easy to play with easy to swing with result, probably my footwork isn't quite there to hit every groundstroke with it. I found the Yonex sticks much easier to deal with over long matches.
 
A quick question as i am either getting the 97HD or the ezone tour, what string guage are you using on it, and what strings....haven't used such a tight string pattern since my VCORE tour 89 which is 16x20 but a very tight pattern obviously due to head size.
I've never seen the Tour 89, but if you place the HD on top of the Vcore 330 the string pattern openness is very very similar. In fact, a side note, if you place the Vcore 95 over the Vcore pro 97 HD or 330 the head size is almost the same. So, I use the thinnest gauge poly possible depending on which string I am using, so 17 or 18. I string the HD much looser than any other racket though, in the 45-48 lb range. I don't ever, ever break poly strings. I might be too weak, which hurts my ego or my strokes are too 80's-90's era, too loopy to create the friction needed to break poly.
 

rader023

Rookie
I've never seen the Tour 89, but if you place the HD on top of the Vcore 330 the string pattern openness is very very similar. In fact, a side note, if you place the Vcore 95 over the Vcore pro 97 HD or 330 the head size is almost the same. So, I use the thinnest gauge poly possible depending on which string I am using, so 17 or 18. I string the HD much looser than any other racket though, in the 45-48 lb range. I don't ever, ever break poly strings. I might be too weak, which hurts my ego or my strokes are too 80's-90's era, too loopy to create the friction needed to break poly.

Thanks for this! Currently using DR98+ and 2018 EZONE 98+ as my daily drivers. Usually with 17 gauge strings around 45-48 LBS depending on the string....looking for more precision/stability though. Sounds like the HD around that same LBS range might do the trick.
 

mike841

Rookie
I hear you, lol, for me though I just couldn't get the RF to work for me beyond 1 and a half singles matches, I love the racket, but I didn't have that easy to play with easy to swing with result, probably my footwork isn't quite there to hit every groundstroke with it. I found the Yonex sticks much easier to deal with over long matches.

If you're playing competitively, you wouldn't just go out a buy one random RF97 and hope for the best. Otherwise you could end up with a tree log or one that doesn't suit how you play. When I bought my Prestiges, I RDC'd probably about 10 of them, picked one to demo and bought 3 with the base specs that I wanted for the customisation that I had in mind. Same thing with the RF97 where the specs vary massively. If I was serious about using a RF97 in competition, I'd find one with a lowest static weight within the range, ~335SW, and a balance that would allow me to strip out the leather grip but still end with ~323 BP once the racquet is fully finished. People talk about this racquet being really heavy, or that racquet being heavy, but they ignore the fact that there's huge spec range variance out there (the TW average gives a misleading impression). Distribution of mass within the layup (degrees of polarisation etc) can also have a big effect on how the racquet plays and to what extent you can customise it.
 

Dragy

Legend
Distribution of mass within the layup (degrees of polarisation etc) can also have a big effect on how the racquet plays and to what extent you can customise it.
That’s where platform racquets have advantage - either just light ones with good design, or good balanced ones with room for some 10-15 g to add.
 
If you're playing competitively, you wouldn't just go out a buy one random RF97 and hope for the best. Otherwise you could end up with a tree log or one that doesn't suit how you play. When I bought my Prestiges, I RDC'd probably about 10 of them, picked one to demo and bought 3 with the base specs that I wanted for the customisation that I had in mind. Same thing with the RF97 where the specs vary massively. If I was serious about using a RF97 in competition, I'd find one with a lowest static weight within the range, ~335SW, and a balance that would allow me to strip out the leather grip but still end with ~323 BP once the racquet is fully finished. People talk about this racquet being really heavy, or that racquet being heavy, but they ignore the fact that there's huge spec range variance out there (the TW average gives a misleading impression). Distribution of mass within the layup (degrees of polarisation etc) can also have a big effect on how the racquet plays and to what extent you can customise it.
10 sticks, whoah, I feel like I am a young jedi and you are yoda for sure. I don't customize either, I'm afraid I would never stop tinkering, but I appreciate the feedback. I will probably stick to Yonex, I did have that QC issue with a Head 360 last year, came to me extremely off the balance it was supposed to be, I totally understand where you are coming from.
 

anhtuanngo

Semi-Pro
I played with my friend who traded in his ezone 98 for the ezone tour 98. Obviously because the extra weight, he says it's more stable, but didn't mention anything about the balance.

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gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
After playing the standard 2020 Ezone 98 at the listed spec for a few months I decided to add weight to the head. It is now 310 grams, 32 cm, 300 sw all unstrung. 5 grams lighter than the Tour, same balance, slightly higher sw. I am hoping this solves the plow the standard model is missing without becoming overly powerful.
 
What's the verdict?
I used the DR98 for some years until I broke them :X3: Now I got the Ezone 98 305, the Vcore 98 and the Vcore Pro HD in my bag. A long-term test and overall the Ezone 98 is my favorite so far (all stock).
I ordered the Ezone Tour from a retailer in the UK and played with it twice. Usually I use Solinco Hyper G or Confidential 1,20mm, but the retailer didn't have it. So, I ordered it with Head Lynx Tour 1,25mm.
I never tried this string before and the string could be the main reason why don't like the Tour more than the 305 so far. I don't feel the ball, don't feel connected, the string doesn't grab the ball as much as I like it. In this setup the feel is to muted for my liking.
As already mentioned, I don´t like the balance. It´s not super hard to swing, but even the Vcore Pro HD feels easier to swing.
Today I went to my stringer to put on Solinco Confidential. Next Tuesday I'll get the Tour and the normal Ezone 98 back with fresh strings. I hope that changes the feel of the racket and with more time the balance and swingweight won't be an issue for me anymore.
By the way, my mate really liked the Tour. His racket of choice is the 2016 Wilson Pro Staff 97S. The Wilson is also more head heavy, maybe that the reason - we just like what we used to.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I used the DR98 for some years until I broke them :X3: Now I got the Ezone 98 305, the Vcore 98 and the Vcore Pro HD in my bag. A long-term test and overall the Ezone 98 is my favorite so far (all stock).
I ordered the Ezone Tour from a retailer in the UK and played with it twice. Usually I use Solinco Hyper G or Confidential 1,20mm, but the retailer didn't have it. So, I ordered it with Head Lynx Tour 1,25mm.
I never tried this string before and the string could be the main reason why don't like the Tour more than the 305 so far. I don't feel the ball, don't feel connected, the string doesn't grab the ball as much as I like it. In this setup the feel is to muted for my liking.
As already mentioned, I don´t like the balance. It´s not super hard to swing, but even the Vcore Pro HD feels easier to swing.
Today I went to my stringer to put on Solinco Confidential. Next Tuesday I'll get the Tour and the normal Ezone 98 back with fresh strings. I hope that changes the feel of the racket and with more time the balance and swingweight won't be an issue for me anymore.
By the way, my mate really liked the Tour. His racket of choice is the 2016 Wilson Pro Staff 97S. The Wilson is also more head heavy, maybe that the reason - we just like what we used to.

For me if the VCore 98 had a better feel it would be the best current Yonex stick. I never dialed with ezone 98 2020. 100 version to me is better and more easy to play with. I don’t have consistency with 305 ezone and i agree with the review below. I hope Yonex to come back to it’s dr/ai/xi roots and stop following Babolats way with ultra muted and harsh feeling sticks.....


 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
For me if the VCore 98 had a better feel it would be the best current Yonex stick. I never dialed with ezone 98 2020. 100 version to me is better and more easy to play with. I don’t have consistency with 305 ezone and i agree with the review below. I hope Yonex to come back to it’s dr/ai/xi roots and stop following Babolat way with ultra muted and harsh feeling sticks.....


does vcore have more power ?
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
does vcore have more power ?

From ezone no (but they are pretty close) and it’s more demanding. But seriously i can’t gel with new ezone 305 one of the worst sticks i ve played with. I tried lead at 12 and it became worse. Sth is wrong with the balance of this stick. Only on serves it was amazing as most Yonex sticks. And it’s even more muted than the previous ezone which was also more muted than DR. Seriously i cannot understand yonexs choices after the success of DR.....VCore 98 flows through the the air like a proper well balanced stick.... new ezone 98 is just weird.
 

Pekoms

Rookie
How can you say it's more head heavy ?

In tennis nuts.com in the information section of the racket it says : This tour spec frame is the heaviest in the EZONE range and most head-light, adding even more stability and control to its incredible feel.
 
How can you say it's more head heavy ?

In tennis nuts.com in the information section of the racket it says : This tour spec frame is the heaviest in the EZONE range and most head-light, adding even more stability and control to its incredible feel.
You need to check the specs. 305 is 6 point HL while tour is 4 pt HL
 

mike841

Rookie
For me if the VCore 98 had a better feel it would be the best current Yonex stick. I never dialed with ezone 98 2020. 100 version to me is better and more easy to play with. I don’t have consistency with 305 ezone and i agree with the review below. I hope Yonex to come back to it’s dr/ai/xi roots and stop following Babolats way with ultra muted and harsh feeling sticks.....



The problem with the guy in that review is that he fails to take into account that a small amount of lead tape in the upper hoop of the Ezone pretty much sorts out most of the issues.
 

Pekoms

Rookie
I received the ezone tour with polytour pro 1.20 and weighted : 329G

I weighted my 305 version Pro 1.25! with an overgrip and dampener and it wheitgs 334. Without is 323 The tour shouldn't be 10 G higher?
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Why don't they make this GREAT EZONE in 27.5 inch Extended version with Low Swing weight like 321 SW. That would be one Incredible serving racket as well as doing everything else well. With Higher swingweight like above 300, it becomes completely different racket that is more difficult to manage and manuver, not good for weekend worriers that touches the racket only 1-2 times a week at most. But at lower SW like 321, it becomes much more versatile weapon with better reach ........
 
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