Yonex Grip thickness, trying to reduce size

tomato123

Professional
Hi all, I have a Yonex Vcore SV98 in grip size 3 (3/8) and considering replacing the base grip with a thinner one to try and reduce it to size 2 (1/4).

I've read on some posts here that Yonex base grips tend to be on the thin side to begin with, so I'm wondering if it won't make much of a difference even if I replace it with a thin one such as a Wilson Featherthin or Tourna Pro Thin... maybe even the new Babolat Syntec Team. If possible I'd like to stay with synthetic because I've tried the Kimony leather grip and didn't particularly like the feel, but if it seems like the only viable option I suppose I'll give it a shot.

Much appreciated if anyone can provide any experience trying to reduce their Yonex racquet grip sizes!
 

nochuola

Rookie
An recent experience of mine: Yonex applies a layer glue to the handle before adding the replacement grip. This glue actually adds some thickness (and weight). You can actually scrape this glue off pretty easily (carefully tho) to reveal the bare pallets. This can effectively shrink the grip size by almost half a grip size.

But yes, Yonex stock grip is already very thin. There aren't many grips thinner, and not by much. Maybe you can try using an overgrip as replacement grip.
 

Dan007

Hall of Fame
An recent experience of mine: Yonex applies a layer glue to the handle before adding the replacement grip. This glue actually adds some thickness (and weight). You can actually scrape this glue off pretty easily (carefully tho) to reveal the bare pallets. This can effectively shrink the grip size by almost half a grip size.

But yes, Yonex stock grip is already very thin. There aren't many grips thinner, and not by much. Maybe you can try using an overgrip as replacement grip.
This. You might need some help with goo-gone or wd40
 
In my experience the Tourna Pro Thin (1.25mm) will reduce the size a decent amount, followed by the Kimony leather grip (0.8mm) which can reduce it even more, with the two over grip solution (0.6mm and easier to stretch out) making the most dramatic difference. Of course the thinner the options, the less amount of cushion on the arm - not a big deal for most Yonex racquets which are super comfortable but may not be to everyone’s liking. You may need to add some weight through the buttcap though to maintain balance - these options tend to be lighter than the original grip, which could change the balance of the racquet.
 
This. You might need some help with goo-gone or wd40
If you use GooGone, just remember you'll need to get all of that off too or your new grip (or overgrip) will not stick to the handle very well. I'm not saying don't use it, but if you do, clean it off with soap and water, then wait a few days before applying the new grip.
 

5sets

Professional
Isn’t Yonex a MoFo? When I played Yonex I noticed the difference too. As if a Japanese 4 3/8”= American 4 5/8”
 

Dan007

Hall of Fame
If you use GooGone, just remember you'll need to get all of that off too or your new grip (or overgrip) will not stick to the handle very well. I'm not saying don't use it, but if you do, clean it off with soap and water, then wait a few days before applying the new grip.
Yea, rubbing alc and paper towel usually does the trick
 

hudekson

New User
bumping the post!
Question for the guys who've removed the glue from a bare handle, how much did that reduce the grip size?
I'm kinda left optionless since I want to reduce the grip size but also want to add weight to the handle. Was thinking about TW leather grip since it's 1.3mm thick but not sure if that would do the trick?
 

tomato123

Professional
bumping the post!
Question for the guys who've removed the glue from a bare handle, how much did that reduce the grip size?
I'm kinda left optionless since I want to reduce the grip size but also want to add weight to the handle. Was thinking about TW leather grip since it's 1.3mm thick but not sure if that would do the trick?
I'm not sure how much the glue shaved off, but the closest I was able to get a size down was putting on Tourna Pro Thin, and the comments above from others have been accurate. My estimate is that you can get roughly a half size down with the Pro Thin after removing the glue, maybe a little more. My comparison was with a Pure Strike 100 with Super Grap overgrip. The PS100 comes with Syntec Team which is already a pretty thin grip, and the Supergrap is on the moderate side of thickness and it has been the best combo for me at grip size 1/4. When I removed the stock grip from the 3/8 SV98 and put on the Tourna Pro Thin without the overgrip, it is very similar in size to the 1/4 PS100 with Super Grap, so I would either have to play without an overgrip if I want to be as close to a "true" 1/4 as possible, or use a very thin overgrip like Babolat VS Original. Right now I have the VS Original on with the Pro Thin, and it feels very slightly bigger than the 1/4 PS100, but I consider this difference to be negligible. However, I haven't played enough with the VS Original to decide if I want to stick with this setup as it is noticeably different in feel compared to Supergrap and Wilson Pro.

As far as the weight issue goes, it will definitely reduce the handle weight, so I think tungsten putty under the buttcap will probably be the best method to compensate.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
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As far as the weight issue goes, it will definitely reduce the handle weight, so I think tungsten putty under the buttcap will probably be the best method to compensate.
-agree here, tungsten putty is a the least messy method to add weight to the handle
-ive been playing arround with injecting silicone inside the handle lately, very easy way to replace alot of lead tape
-but first hand experience on silicone will show you a couple pitfalls
--1 not easy to get precise weight,
--2 very messy!, not easy to do properly, injecting silicone inside small places is not as easy as it sounds
--3 difficult to correct/redo after silicone dries inside the handle
 

hudekson

New User
Thanks for the suggestions. Will try with tourna pro thin. I already have few grams under the buttcap and few at 7" so I'll just add some more to keep the balance.
What about TW leather grip, it says it's 1.3mm while Yonex synthetic is 1.5mm? Well, the cushioning effect would minimize that difference I guess :/
 

tomato123

Professional
Thanks for the suggestions. Will try with tourna pro thin. I already have few grams under the buttcap and few at 7" so I'll just add some more to keep the balance.
What about TW leather grip, it says it's 1.3mm while Yonex synthetic is 1.5mm? Well, the cushioning effect would minimize that difference I guess :/
I think 1.3mm leather grip will make it somewhat smaller. I tried putting on babolat syntec team which is supposedly 1.5mm and definitely felt a difference. But not enough to consider it a significant difference.
 

hudekson

New User
Okay will try both setups and decide. Also, I'm going to demo some racquets with grip size 2 and perhaps consider buying a new frame. It sucks the courts are currently closed in my country so I'll have to wait few weeks and read about it :D
 

esgee48

Legend
Tourna Pro Tour Thin is 1.5 mm thick. Tourna Pro Thin is 1.25 mm thick. The Pro Tour Thin decreases grip size by 1/2 whereas the Pro Thine decreases size by 1.
 

tomato123

Professional
Okay will try both setups and decide. Also, I'm going to demo some racquets with grip size 2 and perhaps consider buying a new frame. It sucks the courts are currently closed in my country so I'll have to wait few weeks and read about it :D
Yeah, I just double checked the numbers, I think you'll be fine with the 1.3mm leather and a thin overgrip. Tourna Pro Thin is only .05mm thinner at 1.25mm so it's not that big of a difference.
 

McLovin

Legend
Also, I'm going to demo some racquets with grip size 2 and perhaps consider buying a new frame.
So, for Yonex, I buy 1 size down, then put a thicker base grip on (I use Tecnifibre Wax Max, previously know as XTra Full). Also, if you “like big butts and you cannot lie”, you can also replace the butt cap w/ a Wilson. And as a plus, the Yonex insert pops out & fits the Wilson butt cap perfectly.
 

hudekson

New User
Nice tip, I presume you play without an og? Not sure about that but have to try wax max since its tacky. Also didnt really play with big butts, tenniswise ofc, so thats something to try aswell.
There's no Yonex racquets to buy or demo around here so I'll try some head and babolat racquets. I'm aware theres the difference in grips but it shall suffice for time being. Then I'll demo some from tw europe.
 

McLovin

Legend
Nice tip, I presume you play without an og? Not sure about that but have to try wax max since its tacky. Also didnt really play with big butts, tenniswise ofc, so thats something to try aswell.
There's no Yonex racquets to buy or demo around here so I'll try some head and babolat racquets. I'm aware theres the difference in grips but it shall suffice for time being. Then I'll demo some from tw europe.
No, I use an overgrip. I just prefer 4 1/2", and Yonex traditionally 'feels' bigger. So, I go down a size (to 4 3/8"), add the Wilson butt cap + thicker base grip, and voila!
 
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