I'm getting a new racquet and have narrowed my mind down to either the vcore 98, or percept 97/100d, which one would yall recommend? I've read some reviews online saying the percept 97's low swing weight is a big issue, but has it been an issue for any of you? If so, how should I customize it?
Yonex Percept 97 vs Vcore 98
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Yeah the P97 is a little light in stock form but lead tape is stupid easy to add, just order a digital scale for 12 bucks for a reference on how much you're adding. It's a great platform racquet since Yonex QC is very good. I have 6-7g at 12 on two frames and I love them now. But the SW of the VC98 is only a tiny bit higher than the 97, barely noticeable. The main difference between the two is that the 98 has a slight bit more free power and also a higher launch angle than the 97. The 97 still has good power for a control frame, more than a Blade FWIW. It's possible the 98 has slightly more spin, but the 97 hits good spin too. IMO you really need big topspin strokes to properly control and utilize the VC98. I didn't like it for flatter shots and slice.
To me the 97 has a nicer stable, damped, and precise feel than the 98, and is a better all-arounder. The 97 is designed to be a more control-oriented frame, so this all fits. To me, the 98 is a little one-dimensional and doesn't have that characteristic dense, stable damped Yonex feel. You can feel more vibration and frame wobbling and i don't really like it. The VC Tour fixes that though. Haven't tried the 100D.
To me the 97 has a nicer stable, damped, and precise feel than the 98, and is a better all-arounder. The 97 is designed to be a more control-oriented frame, so this all fits. To me, the 98 is a little one-dimensional and doesn't have that characteristic dense, stable damped Yonex feel. You can feel more vibration and frame wobbling and i don't really like it. The VC Tour fixes that though. Haven't tried the 100D.
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Ever since TennisNerd from YouTube called the Percept the Prolapse, I cannot get rid of that from my head; it’s etched into my skull forever. That’s why there’s no way in hell you’ll find me with a Prolapse-anything. I can’t do it man; it’s too much for me. I'm too weak-minded. Personally, I don't think I'll ever be a fan of the Prolapse - I mean, Percept.
Ever since TennisNerd from YouTube called the Percept the Prolapse, I cannot get rid of that from my head; it’s etched into my skull forever. That’s why there’s no way in hell you’ll find me with a Prolapse-anything. I can’t do it man; it’s too much for me. I'm too weak-minded. Personally, I don't think I'll ever be a fan of the Prolapse - I mean, Percept.
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I actually have the same question as op.
I played a lot from 5-15, nothing for 20 years, and started playing again in January. I have good technique, a bit rusty and stiff but improving rapidly.
I grew up playing on clay, but when demoing I think even the 97D produces decent enough spin for loopy shots. My topspin groudnstrokes are better than my flat approaches.
I guess a question becomes, is it better to buy a racket maximizing what I'm best at (spinny groudnstrokes) or one that helps me the most at my weaknesses (flatter approaches and stepping in).
I would go with a Vcore98 stock without question. Percept 97 come preloaded with extra weight and manages to be more unstable than even light rackets... it's an engineering marvel.
Are you in the US Now / are you still playing on clay? TBH 97D is one of the most limiting rackets in terms of spin and shape. If you're finding it to be good, you might need something with a bit more penetration to flatten out your strokes. I found the D to be a bit one dimensional though. The H is much better for spin if you can handle it.
Are you in the US Now / are you still playing on clay? TBH 97D is one of the most limiting rackets in terms of spin and shape. If you're finding it to be good, you might need something with a bit more penetration to flatten out your strokes. I found the D to be a bit one dimensional though. The H is much better for spin if you can handle it.
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I'm in Europe, so right now I play on indoor hard court. But come spring it's clay all the way! I also play very "clay-y" on hard-courts if that makes sense, shot selection etc.
The 97H is probably a bit heavy, I think the 97D is already pushing it for me physically. Maybe an option is to try the 97 non-D with weight similar to the 97D?
It's a bit of a paradox that I liked the 97D so much, spec-wise it doesn't suit me well.
I used to play internationally and feel on clay there's plenty of spin to be had and people play with more spin.. I don't mind going with something that offers some flatter capabilities because people actually enter my stroke zone and you can better direct the ball downward. I didn't care for the standard 97.
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Percept really shines with mass based power while the Vcore 98 delivers in stock form for me. For a compeitive situation, if you like to hit with a good amount of spin, the VC98 is the better frame. Where it really shines is on the serve. It just allows me to put very sharp movement on the ball and keep my kick serves over the shoulders.
Percept has a really nice feel to it, but I also like the Vcores. It is soft and with the right strings, the sweet spot is well defined. You can also string it in the mid 40s and get a lot of pocketing out of it. Very sweet frame for competing. Being on clay it would be a no brainer for me.
Percept has a really nice feel to it, but I also like the Vcores. It is soft and with the right strings, the sweet spot is well defined. You can also string it in the mid 40s and get a lot of pocketing out of it. Very sweet frame for competing. Being on clay it would be a no brainer for me.
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My favorite frame of all time was the Yonex DR98 with about 7g of lead ~ 9:30-11:00. VS Touch 16 mains, Lux ALU 16L crosses. 48/42.
When that was discontinued, I floundered around with other Yonex frames, then Wilson RF and PS. Never felt completely at home with any of them.
Tried a Blade v8 16x19 stock and really liked it. (Didn't really like earlier Blades, and didn't glom onto the v9 either.)
With the v8 discontinued, I switched to the Babolat Aero 98 but had a love-hate relationship with it. (Should have tried RPM Blast in it, I guess, but I was still using VS Touch / Lux ALU.)
Tried the VCore 98 with the same string setup and it just never felt right. (Maybe I should have tried Polytour Pro.)
Tried the Percept 97 initially with the same string setup and hated it. Tried it again with Polytour Pro 16 44/42 and it was instant love. I think I'll go to 42/42 next time I string it, but I like everything about the Percept. Feels like home.
I think of myself as an aggressive all court player, but I was recently told I was a "crafty player" so maybe I'm fooling myself or just getting old.
When that was discontinued, I floundered around with other Yonex frames, then Wilson RF and PS. Never felt completely at home with any of them.
Tried a Blade v8 16x19 stock and really liked it. (Didn't really like earlier Blades, and didn't glom onto the v9 either.)
With the v8 discontinued, I switched to the Babolat Aero 98 but had a love-hate relationship with it. (Should have tried RPM Blast in it, I guess, but I was still using VS Touch / Lux ALU.)
Tried the VCore 98 with the same string setup and it just never felt right. (Maybe I should have tried Polytour Pro.)
Tried the Percept 97 initially with the same string setup and hated it. Tried it again with Polytour Pro 16 44/42 and it was instant love. I think I'll go to 42/42 next time I string it, but I like everything about the Percept. Feels like home.
I think of myself as an aggressive all court player, but I was recently told I was a "crafty player" so maybe I'm fooling myself or just getting old.
Played 1 year with Percept 97:
Felt rock solid on serve & all strokes. Maneuverability good not great. Not forgiving & underpowered when late or on defense.[/td]
Played 4.5 years with last 3 generations of Vcore 98:
Awesome spin racket. Good stability on all strokes. Serve monster. Negative is MUST spin every shot or it will go long & difficult to flatten out balls.
I think flatter, stronger, more advanced players will like Percept 97 better and it can take weight to customize and increase swingweight.
Likely all level spin players and various style intermediates will play better with Vcore 98.
Felt rock solid on serve & all strokes. Maneuverability good not great. Not forgiving & underpowered when late or on defense.[/td]
Played 4.5 years with last 3 generations of Vcore 98:
Awesome spin racket. Good stability on all strokes. Serve monster. Negative is MUST spin every shot or it will go long & difficult to flatten out balls.
I think flatter, stronger, more advanced players will like Percept 97 better and it can take weight to customize and increase swingweight.
Likely all level spin players and various style intermediates will play better with Vcore 98.
