Yonex Poly Tour Fire vs Pro? or Don't believe in comparison charts.

[ChimpChimp]

I started to question those string comparison charts -- even official ones.

A) This image is from the official site. I don't know on which web page it is shown.
http://www.yonex.com/_assets/images/cache/autoxauto/11886.jpg

B)
http://www.yonex.com/sports/tennis/products/tennis/string/strings/polytour-fire-120/
http://www.yonex.com/sports/tennis/products/tennis/string/strings/polytour-pro-120/

In A), 1 (Fire) and 5 (Pro) are in the two extremes in the durability-ball pocketing axis. In B), Fire and Pro are identical in durability.

In A), 1 is slightly lighter than 5. In B), Fire is a lot harder than Pro.​

What does the light-heavy axis mean? This question was discussed in TW. If you believe in the following chart hosted in a third-party site, light = soft feeling, that is, the same as soft-hard axis in B).

Conclusion: The two charts, official they are, contradict to each other, in both x- and y-axis.​

Moreover,
In A), 1 and 5 are considered light. In B), Fire and Pro are hard.
In A), 2 (Spin 125) is heavy, and a lot heavier than 1 and 5. In a page similar to B), Spin 125 is marginally harder than Fire and Pro.
It is difficult to judge whether this point is also contradictory, as the scale of the axis is subjective.

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Back to my question. I have used only Fire 120, not Pro of any gauge. Pro is popular but Fire is less known. Pro is cheaper though. Since I don't break strings, I can use thin ones, which should be better in every aspect except durability?

My comments on Fire:
Not much spin.
Is it hard? Maybe the other strings I have used are all hard, so I don't know.
With 52/50 I have never hit so precisely in my life. With 50/48 all precision gone.

How do you compare Fire and Pro?
More specifically, which
--is softer actually?
--has more pocketing? (is it the same as softer?)
--is more low-powered?
--gives more spin?


I am aware of the other post on "pro vs fire vs strike", but my finding of contradiction may be worth its own post.

 

[CiscoPC600]

Great post. I'm also interested in all getting to the bottom of which string is softer, and I'd like to throw in the PolyTour Air. I'm currently using Volkl Cylone Tour 1.20mm, and I want something as soft but with better tension maintenance. I originally thought because I got the 18g of the VCT that it would snap before serious tension loss, but surprisingly it's still going after 10+ hours of use.

The TW String Tool has the following stiffness ratings:

• PT Air 1.25mm: 155 with 41% tension loss;
  
• VCT 1.20mm: 159 with 51% tension loss;
• PT Pro 1.20mm: 189 with 33% tension loss;
• PT Pro 1.25mm: 181 with 47% tension loss;
• PT Pro 1.30mm: 191 with 44% tension loss;
• PT Fire 1.25mm: 195 with 35% tension loss.

Hopefully this attracts some good insight.

 

[mrtrinh]

I can only speak from a hybrid perspective. Currently playing with Pacific classic Gut / Yonex PTF

• PTP is more muted feeling
• PTP is slightly softer than PTF (by no means is PTF uncomfortable)
  
• PTP is less powerful than PTF
• In my hybrid set up, i generate more spin with PTF.
• Tension loss, this is still TBD as im only on my 2nd week with PTF

I prefer PTF over PTP.

 

[GN-001]

I can only speak from a hybrid perspective. Currently playing with Pacific classic Gut / Yonex PTF

• PTP is more muted feeling
• PTP is slightly softer than PTF (by no means is PTF uncomfortable)
  
• PTP is less powerful than PTF
• In my hybrid set up, i generate more spin with PTF.
• Tension loss, this is still TBD as im only on my 2nd week with PTF

I prefer PTF over PTP.

I own a reel of each. Agree with everything mrtrinh said. I also prefer PTF over PTP especially in hybrids. In saying that, PTP works really well as a cross with poly tour spin on the mains

 

[EasternRocks]

So what's the consensus when playing PTP vs PTF 16L in a more open string pattern at the same tension?

 

[CiscoPC600]

@ChimpChimp I'm curious if Yonex's support employees would respond to your inquiry. Perhaps you could copy and paste your original post into their "contact us" page: http://www.yonexusa.com/company/contact-us/

 

[ChimpChimp]

@ChimpChimp I'm curious if Yonex's support employees would respond to your inquiry. Perhaps you could copy and paste your original post into their "contact us" page: http://www.yonexusa.com/company/contact-us/

I did. Four days and no reply -- not even an acknowledgement of my having contacted them.

 

[CiscoPC600]

Bummer.. We could try pointing out to TW customer support and see if they have better luck contacting Yonex. Spitballing here.

 

[The Big Kahuna]

Anyone been playing with PTF as a cross string with gut mains for a while now and how do you find the overall performance now that you have used it for a while? My first impressions echo everything stated above.

 

[Rafedovic]

I find the PTF loses its slickness fairly quickly but I like it a lot before it does.

 

[gutfeeling]

Poly tour pro is probably one of the most underrated strings on the market. It does everything pretty well and it plays pretty consistently over its life. Most retailers are selling it at a premium price likely due to the kyrgios/osaka effect, but you can find it at more reasonable prices online.

 

[landcookie]

Anyone been playing with PTF as a cross string with gut mains for a while now and how do you find the overall performance now that you have used it for a while? My first impressions echo everything stated above.

Yup. I absolutely loved PTF as a cross with gut mains. It dies a lot quicker than the gut though which sucks for a non string breaker.

 

[Wolfessis]

For people who use PTF as a cross, and gut or syn gut as a main.

I'm going to try it with head PPS syn gut 1.30mm main (so PTF 1.25mm as cross).

Was thinking of stringing it around 56/50

What tensions have you found to work well?

 

[smithie]

For people who use PTF as a cross, and gut or syn gut as a main.

I'm going to try it with head PPS syn gut 1.30mm main (so PTF 1.25mm as cross).

Was thinking of stringing it around 56/50

What tensions have you found to work well?

When I used it in my gut/poly hybrid I ended up settling on 57/54 with a 10% pre-stretch in the gut. When I've used it in a poly/poly hybrid I tend to string at 50/48 but it depends on the power of the main string.

 

[adchris2]

Does anyone use PTF as a main with syn gut crosses?