Yonex Power Cushion Pro Shoes

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I ordered a pair of Aerus blue/white color and will test it out and report. I know it is super light which I like. if the powercushion is same and stability is fairly close to Eclipsion, I will switch to Aerus.
 

norcal

Legend
Just hit in my PCD II's for the first time so here's a mini review. Ordered the II after running through the last pair of PCD I's I had. The PCD I's were awesome; light, cushiony and supportive (and durable duh). I preferred it to the PCPro (which is also great) for the softer feel and warranty. I didn't think Yonex could improve on the PCD but they did. Yonex has always been at the forefront of cushioned performance shoes imo and this is no different.

The II is lighter, has more cushion in the forefoot and feels more supportive around the ankle. It fits true to size (the PCD I ran 1/2 size big) and is narrower in the toe box (some might not like that but I do). Best tennis shoe I have ever worn, hands down (I have not tried the Eclipsion though). Amazing how much of a 'fast feel' it has for a well cushioned durability warranty shoe. I would buy it even without the warranty. With the warranty it will come out to $55 per pair which is ridiculous for this quality of shoe. I didn't care for the new colorway (green/white) so I ordered the now discontinued skyblue/black. On the Yonex site they have red/white and black/silver so maybe those will show up here.

Bottom line: Fantastic lightweight shoe with tons of cushioning and support. Fits like a glove (I have medium width feet and wear thorlo 3's so there is plenty of room in the shoe).

Caveat: if you bought the PCD I for the extra toe box room you might not like it if you have really wide feet.

I wear a 9 in the PCD I's and a 9.5 in the PCD II. Cheers to my fellow Yonex-holics.

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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Just hit in my PCD II's for the first time so here's a mini review. Ordered the II after running through the last pair of PCD I's I had. The PCD I's were awesome; light, cushiony and supportive (and durable duh). I preferred it to the PCPro (which is also great) for the softer feel and warranty. I didn't think Yonex could improve on the PCD but they did. Yonex has always been at the forefront of cushioned performance shoes imo and this is no different.

The II is lighter, has more cushion in the forefoot and feels more supportive around the ankle. It fits true to size (the PCD I ran 1/2 size big) and is narrower in the toe box (some might not like that but I do). Best tennis shoe I have ever worn, hands down (I have not tried the Eclipsion though). Amazing how much of a 'fast feel' it has for a well cushioned durability warranty shoe. I would buy it even without the warranty. With the warranty it will come out to $55 per pair which is ridiculous for this quality of shoe. I didn't care for the new colorway (green/white) so I ordered the now discontinued skyblue/black. On the Yonex site they have red/white and black/silver so maybe those will show up here.

Bottom line: Fantastic lightweight shoe with tons of cushioning and support. Fits like a glove (I have medium width feet and wear thorlo 3's so there is plenty of room in the shoe).

Caveat: if you bought the PCD I for the extra toe box room you might not like it if you have really wide feet.

I wear a 9 in the PCD I's and a 9.5 in the PCD II. Cheers to my fellow Yonex-holics.

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http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yon...le_II_White_Green/descpageMSYONEX-YMD2WG.html

Andy Gerst said in the video review,, "Not the most supportive shoe but comfortable". That is worrisome. Not going to buy this one.
 

imajica77

Professional
I think the new Eclipsion shoe is the best Yonex shoe I have ever worn. That says a lot from me since I have been wearing Yonex for around 15 years now.

Nost I hope you like the Aerus. For me it is to ugly to even try. I know my bad.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I think the new Eclipsion shoe is the best Yonex shoe I have ever worn. That says a lot from me since I have been wearing Yonex for around 15 years now.

Nost I hope you like the Aerus. For me it is to ugly to even try. I know my bad.
shoes have to look good ? what if it is just average looking but BEST performance shoe in history of tennis........ would you try it then ??
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
Just hit in my PCD II's for the first time so here's a mini review. Ordered the II after running through the last pair of PCD I's I had. The PCD I's were awesome; light, cushiony and supportive (and durable duh). I preferred it to the PCPro (which is also great) for the softer feel and warranty. I didn't think Yonex could improve on the PCD but they did. Yonex has always been at the forefront of cushioned performance shoes imo and this is no different.

The II is lighter, has more cushion in the forefoot and feels more supportive around the ankle. It fits true to size (the PCD I ran 1/2 size big) and is narrower in the toe box (some might not like that but I do). Best tennis shoe I have ever worn, hands down (I have not tried the Eclipsion though). Amazing how much of a 'fast feel' it has for a well cushioned durability warranty shoe. I would buy it even without the warranty. With the warranty it will come out to $55 per pair which is ridiculous for this quality of shoe. I didn't care for the new colorway (green/white) so I ordered the now discontinued skyblue/black. On the Yonex site they have red/white and black/silver so maybe those will show up here.

Bottom line: Fantastic lightweight shoe with tons of cushioning and support. Fits like a glove (I have medium width feet and wear thorlo 3's so there is plenty of room in the shoe).

Caveat: if you bought the PCD I for the extra toe box room you might not like it if you have really wide feet.

I wear a 9 in the PCD I's and a 9.5 in the PCD II. Cheers to my fellow Yonex-holics.

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I had the same shoe, my knees definitely felt better after a match in these but I find the sides far too high and cumbersome. Felt like a mid top high top feel to it and I hate that clunky feel.
 

WildVolley

Legend
Caveat: if you bought the PCD I for the extra toe box room you might not like it if you have really wide feet.

I wear a 9 in the PCD I's and a 9.5 in the PCD II. Cheers to my fellow Yonex-holics.

Now you've depressed me. I loved the PCD because of the wide toe box. I might have to buy the Fusion Rev instead.:(
 

norcal

Legend
Now you've depressed me. I loved the PCD because of the wide toe box. I might have to buy the Fusion Rev instead.:(

Yeah, sorry but the PCDII is narrower in the toe box (and over all). And keep in mind my PCD II is a 9.5 (bigger) and is still more narrow than my PCDI (which is a 9). So yeah, if the Rev is described as wider you may want to go with that. But who knows, maybe the II will loosen up over time?

That is why I posted the pic of the shoes side by side, this is an actual comparison not based on an internet description. Toebox width is a pretty objective observation, 'clunkyness' is way more subjective.

I had the same shoe, my knees definitely felt better after a match in these but I find the sides far too high and cumbersome. Felt like a mid top high top feel to it and I hate that clunky feel.

And this is why you need to try shoes yourself, I had the opposite experience. To me they are not 'clunky' at all or 'high toppish'. In fact they are the opposite with a softer feel, less stiff than say the PCP. But that's just me.

All that being said, I have yet to try a pair of Yonex that aren't great.

Nost - Aerus is ugly because it's too shiny/metallic looking. Bet if feels great though.
 

norcal

Legend
Oh yeah, last week in Indian Wells I met a rep for Yonex. Totally random, he was getting off the clay court I was coming on to and he was playing with the same (discontinued) racket as me so I started talking to him and he told me he was a Yonex rep. I wish I had more time to talk him. He said 3/4 of the pros want to play in Asics even if they're not getting paid for it.
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
Oh yeah, last week in Indian Wells I met a rep for Yonex. Totally random, he was getting off the clay court I was coming on to and he was playing with the same (discontinued) racket as me so I started talking to him and he told me he was a Yonex rep. I wish I had more time to talk him. He said 3/4 of the pros want to play in Asics even if they're not getting paid for it.

No surprise here, Asics are well known for performance and ticking boxes in all areas. It's a bit like tennis racquets under all those fancy paintjobs, what its underneath is what counts. A shame really that some players aren't getting %100 comfort due to $$$ reasons...
 

WildVolley

Legend
Yeah, sorry but the PCDII is narrower in the toe box (and over all). And keep in mind my PCD II is a 9.5 (bigger) and is still more narrow than my PCDI (which is a 9). So yeah, if the Rev is described as wider you may want to go with that. But who knows, maybe the II will loosen up over time?

That is why I posted the pic of the shoes side by side, this is an actual comparison not based on an internet description. Toebox width is a pretty objective observation, 'clunkyness' is way more subjective.

Thanks for posting the picture. I can see that the 9.5-size PCDII looks smaller than the 9 PCD in everything except perhaps length.

I may have to try to stretch out the toe-box of the PCDII, as I definitely burn through a pair of PCDs in under 6-months. I wonder how much damage a toe-stretcher will do to the shoe. I just need space to keep my big toe mostly straight and room so my little toe isn't smashed.

I prefer the fit of Yonex over Asics, but I haven't worn as many different types of Asics shoes. I realize my ability to judge a shoe is highly dependent on how it fits to my foot. Someone else might love a shoe I hate because they have a different foot shape. The one thing I have going for me is that cushioning isn't an issue for me. People said that the NB996v2 wasn't cushioned enough for them. While it has a firm feel underfoot, I haven't noticed any issue with cushioning. The PCD are definitely more cushioned feeling than the NB, but again, I think I would prefer a lower stack height and less cushioning.

I've never noticed any stability issue with the PCD, even though the stack height is high. I actually exercise my feet, so "support" isn't something I worry about at all. The Fusion Rev looks like the last would fit my foot the best, but I wish it were durability guaranteed as I'm sure I'll burn through it quickly.
 

dave t

Semi-Pro
WildVolley - our feet sound very similar and I've owned or tried all of the shoes mentioned. I also loved the original PCD - I had the white/blue ones and black/yellow ones - and they both fit as you described. Wide, cushioned, light, soft but still supportive etc. Tried the PCD II when they came out - too narrow in the same size and didn't' want to go to a longer shoe to get the width right. Also tried on PCP/PC Light at this time - both too narrow. Fusion Rev will be your best bet. They fit my feet extremely well - do not feel clunky to me at all. They are also pretty durable, at least the same as the original PCD. To me they feel slightly more substantial and should last a touch longer - despite not having a warranty. I wear the same size in the fusions as I did in the original PCDs. Unfortunately, Eclipsions fit like the PCP in my opinion - would need to go up a half size and even then they pinch the mid/forefoot a bit too much. Hope this helps - I just ordered another pair of fusions and packed up both pairs of eclipsions for return
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
this Eclipsion is so Good that I think it maybe the best shoe in history of ALL shoes ever made in history of shoes and mankind.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Did you try the Aerus as well? I am looking for a more cushion shoe to replace my Vapor 9.5s.
I ordered it and it is coming in the mail. will test it and report. if it isn't just as good as Eclipsion, I am returning it however. Eclipsion is so insanely good that I may just stick with it and not try any other shoes from now on ever
 
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I ordered it and it is coming in the mail. will test it and report. if it isn't just as good as Eclipsion, I am returning it however. Eclipsion is so insanely good that I may just stick with it and not try any other shoes from now on ever

Have you tried the Vapors or LB 1.5s and can compare to the Eclipsion.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
Now you've depressed me. I loved the PCD because of the wide toe box. I might have to buy the Fusion Rev instead.:(

I tried both the PCD Durable II and Fusion Rev and wound up with two pairs of the Fusion Rev for exactly that reason. The PCD II toe box was very pinched in on my foot. The Fusion Rev soles wear fairly quickly but still have good traction even with the wear. That is the only possible negative I have about this shoe. Despite the noticeable lack of much construction material, or extra support components, on the uppers, support has been just fine.
 
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Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
fusion rev is clunky. andy in TW review didnt' seem to like it.

What the heck are you talking about? It is far from clunky; it plays way faster and lower than my T-22's and SFX's, which actually are a bit clunky by comparison. The Fusion Rev fits like a glove, has minimalist upper construction and feels flat-out fast on the court. The lacing system is extraordinary -- it completely eliminates pressure on the instep. You would be hard-pressed to find a less "clunky" feeling shoe.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
What the heck are you talking about? It is far from clunky; it plays way faster and lower than my T-22's and SFX's, which actually are a bit clunky by comparison. The Fusion Rev fits like a glove, has minimalist upper construction and feels flat-out fast on the court. The lacing system is extraordinary -- it completely eliminates pressure on the instep. You would be hard-pressed to find a less "clunky" feeling shoe.
hey man, I only go by TW reviews. they are what I consider GOLD standard, especially Andy's opinions.
 

Jbo

Rookie
Have you tried the Vapors or LB 1.5s and can compare to the Eclipsion.
If it helps, I own a pair of both the GR6s and Vapor 9.5s...and have tried on a pair of Eclipsion in the shop. I found that Eclipsion felt the most cushiony of all, but admittedly I never got to run around on the court with them.

I own the Vapors and the GR6 in 9.5 US size and I am loving them both so far, with GR6 being the more pillowy of the two but the Vapor 9.5s feel much more nimble and also more secure around the heel/ankles. The heel lock lace up method definitely helped me enjoy the GR6s more though (thanks to the tips from the helpful members of this forum!). Though, contrary to some feedback on the GR6s not needing a break in period, I found that they felt much better during my second session with them.

Although the Eclipsion felt the most cushiony of all three shoes, they also felt the bulkiest. I also couldn't stand the bright orange colourway, even though they are advertised as being red. Tried the Eclipsion in 9.5 US size as well, so I'd suggest that all there shoes run the same size - if anything maybe half a size up for PCD as my feet did felt quite wrapped up - much moreso than my GR6s in the same size which already fit quite snuggly!
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
If it helps, I own a pair of both the GR6s and Vapor 9.5s...and have tried on a pair of Eclipsion in the shop. I found that Eclipsion felt the most cushiony of all, but admittedly I never got to run around on the court with them.

I own the Vapors and the GR6 in 9.5 US size and I am loving them both so far, with GR6 being the more pillowy of the two but the Vapor 9.5s feel much more nimble and also more secure around the heel/ankles. The heel lock lace up method definitely helped me enjoy the GR6s more though (thanks to the tips from the helpful members of this forum!). Though, contrary to some feedback on the GR6s not needing a break in period, I found that they felt much better during my second session with them.

Although the Eclipsion felt the most cushiony of all three shoes, they also felt the bulkiest. I also couldn't stand the bright orange colourway, even though they are advertised as being red. Tried the Eclipsion in 9.5 US size as well, so I'd suggest that all there shoes run the same size - if anything maybe half a size up for PCD as my feet did felt quite wrapped up - much moreso than my GR6s in the same size which already fit quite snuggly!
what is GR6 ???? never heard of that one
 

GioV

Rookie
I tried both the PCD Durable II and Fusion Rev and wound up with two pairs of the Fusion Rev for exactly that reason. The PCD II toe box was very pinched in on my foot. The Fusion Rev soles wear fairly quickly but still have good traction even with the wear. That is the only possible negative I have about this shoe. Despite the noticeable lack of much construction material, or extra support components, on the uppers, support has been just fine.

I just picked up a pair of the Fusion Rev. It does play fast and isn't clunky at all. What I loved most is no sore feet after 3 hrs of tennis.

The toebox seems extra roomy, almost too roomy for my foot. Would the PCD II be a good option for me? Do s everything else, besides the toe box room, feel similar to the Fusion Rev?
 

fantom

Hall of Fame
Can anybody compare the Eclipsion to the 308? The 308's were one of the most comfortable shoes I ever wore and fit my feet perfectly. The PCDII's and PC Pros just never felt right. Thanks in advance.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
I just picked up a pair of the Fusion Rev. It does play fast and isn't clunky at all. What I loved most is no sore feet after 3 hrs of tennis.

The toebox seems extra roomy, almost too roomy for my foot. Would the PCD II be a good option for me? Do s everything else, besides the toe box room, feel similar to the Fusion Rev?

They might be. The shape of the Fusion Rev is very rounded off all the way through the toe and the PDC II is not, so they may be the better overall fit for you. I could not speak to how the rest of the shoe felt on the court because they were just too narrow for me to wear. The PCD II seems to be a very well made shoe and I wanted to like them due to the combined low weight and durability sole, but they weren't a match for my feet. If they had fit, I get the sense that I would have liked them.

Another thing about the Fusion Rev that has me hooked is the lacing system -- I really miss this when I switch off to my other shoes. It lets me get the perfect fit with zero pressure on the top of my foot. I hope Yonex uses this on other models in the future.
 

GioV

Rookie
You have a great point about the lacing system. It is one of the most comfortable shoes I have ever worn... and it performs! I think I will put the Fusion Rev in my rotation and when I need a new pair, I will try the Durable line.
 

Nibali77

New User
Thanks for posting the picture. I can see that the 9.5-size PCDII looks smaller than the 9 PCD in everything except perhaps length.

I may have to try to stretch out the toe-box of the PCDII, as I definitely burn through a pair of PCDs in under 6-months. I wonder how much damage a toe-stretcher will do to the shoe. I just need space to keep my big toe mostly straight and room so my little toe isn't smashed.

I prefer the fit of Yonex over Asics, but I haven't worn as many different types of Asics shoes. I realize my ability to judge a shoe is highly dependent on how it fits to my foot. Someone else might love a shoe I hate because they have a different foot shape. The one thing I have going for me is that cushioning isn't an issue for me. People said that the NB996v2 wasn't cushioned enough for them. While it has a firm feel underfoot, I haven't noticed any issue with cushioning. The PCD are definitely more cushioned feeling than the NB, but again, I think I would prefer a lower stack height and less cushioning.

I've never noticed any stability issue with the PCD, even though the stack height is high. I actually exercise my feet, so "support" isn't something I worry about at all. The Fusion Rev looks like the last would fit my foot the best, but I wish it were durability guaranteed as I'm sure I'll burn through it quickly.


Don t worry about the toe-box of the PCDII
I ve one.
Had one.
PCDII has a huge toe-box compared to all other tennis-shoes.
If you re looking for that - go for PCDII.

Over all a very nice shoe:
- durable
- wide
- cuision
- medium stable
- fexible
- light
- very comfy


but I brought myself the yonex eclipsion some weeks ago. ---> I love it. Best.
 

Nibali77

New User
A quick review Eclipsion:

I brought it some weeks ago. I tried them all. Barricade, Lunar, Wilson - but nothing seemed to fit my feet. Nothing. I was completly depressed ;-) . The Barricade made my ankle turn. coudnt walk even in the house. And so on and so on.

Then I found the PCDII last year. A wonderful shoe. Super Wide, Comfy and review previous post...

The eclipsion:
- The best shoe ever !!!
- But I ve to say. At the beginning - I was guessing a lot in the store if I should go for 9 or 9.5.
I decided to go for the little smaller one.
- Then when I worn it at home - I have to say. It hourt my feet a little on the sides. It felt a little military when I walked.
- But I gave him a fair chance. I took it twice for a 30min. running session. At it hurted me still a little on the sides.
- Then I tooked it for another non-tennis session - shopping. And It became better and better.

- Then I went on the Tenniscourt and it is just perfect now:
Fitts the feet like a glove - super smooth but sporty contact on all parts of my feet.
- very quick
- perfect cushioning
- just the undiscible art of stability - very stable but not anoying
- very quick for skipping during the strokes
- very quick on side to side moves
- unbelieveble comfy

It took a little while to break in - but then it is the best.

I m so happy that I was able to overcome my uncomfy feel at the beginning - now it is the opposit. I can wear it the hole day - and wont took it of. ;-)
I finally got it. The perfect high perferming - perfect fitting and super comfy good looking (black) tennis shoe.

I will defenetly buying it again and again... and again. When announcing a new one (maybe in 2017/2018/2019) I will buy myself a douzen for my personel reserve of these PERFECT sneakers.

I have wide flat feet.
 

Jbo

Rookie
A quick review Eclipsion:

I brought it some weeks ago. I tried them all. Barricade, Lunar, Wilson - but nothing seemed to fit my feet. Nothing. I was completly depressed ;-) . The Barricade made my ankle turn. coudnt walk even in the house. And so on and so on.

Then I found the PCDII last year. A wonderful shoe. Super Wide, Comfy and review previous post...

The eclipsion:
- The best shoe ever !!!
- But I ve to say. At the beginning - I was guessing a lot in the store if I should go for 9 or 9.5.
I decided to go for the little smaller one.
- Then when I worn it at home - I have to say. It hourt my feet a little on the sides. It felt a little military when I walked.
- But I gave him a fair chance. I took it twice for a 30min. running session. At it hurted me still a little on the sides.
- Then I tooked it for another non-tennis session - shopping. And It became better and better.

- Then I went on the Tenniscourt and it is just perfect now:
Fitts the feet like a glove - super smooth but sporty contact on all parts of my feet.
- very quick
- perfect cushioning
- just the undiscible art of stability - very stable but not anoying
- very quick for skipping during the strokes
- very quick on side to side moves
- unbelieveble comfy

It took a little while to break in - but then it is the best.

I m so happy that I was able to overcome my uncomfy feel at the beginning - now it is the opposit. I can wear it the hole day - and wont took it of. ;-)
I finally got it. The perfect high perferming - perfect fitting and super comfy good looking (black) tennis shoe.

I will defenetly buying it again and again... and again. When announcing a new one (maybe in 2017/2018/2019) I will buy myself a douzen for my personel reserve of these PERFECT sneakers.

I have wide flat feet.
Great review! Makes me really tempted to give these shoes a try next. I did manage to try these on at a store, but decided against purchasing them as they were at full price ($200 AUD), and I was in complete disagreement with the colour scheme (they only had the RED/ORANGE version... I've seen pics of the BLACK version online and that looks much, much nicer).

I'm wondering if you have tried on the Asics GR6? I currently switch between two pairs of tennis shoes, GR6s and Vapor 9.5s, and I found the fit of the GR6s to be quite similar to the Eclipsion, except the GR6 probably felt a little more agile than the Yonex's. If you have tried any of the GRs, I wouldn't mind hearing how you felt those compared with the Elipsion line.
 

Nibali77

New User
@Jbo

No, I didn t know the GR6. But I was on the way last year to try a asics tennis shoe - was wearing it in the store - but i can t say which model it was. Can t even remember the colour. Years ago - many years ;-) maybe 5-6 years - I owned a vapor - federer had that on USOpen.

hmmm... for me it is hard to compare the eclipsion with any other tennisshoe I had. As I said at the beginning it took some minutes to break in - but know it is so much better then everything I ever had. So perfect - that everything is way behind for me.

compared to the vapor I had years ago:
The vapor as I remembered was narrower - for that I had to go with 9.5 - and as I remember it didn t holded my feet in any area near that good as the eclipsion now does. I think the vapor wasn t that stable, a bit more low cutted, more flexible - but not in a good way for me! As I said I dont like the clubbyness from the barricade too. The yonex is stable in a nice way.
When it comes to cushioning the vapor is way behind. When it comes to overall comfort the eclipsion plays in a hole different league too.
It is a bit early to say something about durability. But from the structre and look - the eclipsion looks durable. I will find out.

Compared to the asics I worn in a store last year:
I cant say that much about it. The asics seemed to be nice for some kind of a wider feet.
It seemed defenetly okey for me - way better then the others I tried on that day. I guess it is not that cushioned. But maybe lighter.But defenetly the asics didn t had that comfy-sporty- glove feeling. Can t say anything about the rest because I only jumped aroung In the store ;-)
But it the asics looked durable too. They make good shoes. I had a running shoe - cumulus - for a long time - the durability was nice.

btw:
I also dont like the orange that much.
the black version defenetly looks the best.
youtube: stan wawrinka highlight chennai 2016 --- footwork looks nice with it ;-)
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
A quick review Eclipsion:

I brought it some weeks ago. I tried them all. Barricade, Lunar, Wilson - but nothing seemed to fit my feet. Nothing. I was completly depressed ;-) . The Barricade made my ankle turn. coudnt walk even in the house. And so on and so on.

Then I found the PCDII last year. A wonderful shoe. Super Wide, Comfy and review previous post...

The eclipsion:
- The best shoe ever !!!
- But I ve to say. At the beginning - I was guessing a lot in the store if I should go for 9 or 9.5.
I decided to go for the little smaller one.
- Then when I worn it at home - I have to say. It hourt my feet a little on the sides. It felt a little military when I walked.
- But I gave him a fair chance. I took it twice for a 30min. running session. At it hurted me still a little on the sides.
- Then I tooked it for another non-tennis session - shopping. And It became better and better.

- Then I went on the Tenniscourt and it is just perfect now:
Fitts the feet like a glove - super smooth but sporty contact on all parts of my feet.
- very quick
- perfect cushioning
- just the undiscible art of stability - very stable but not anoying
- very quick for skipping during the strokes
- very quick on side to side moves
- unbelieveble comfy

It took a little while to break in - but then it is the best.

I m so happy that I was able to overcome my uncomfy feel at the beginning - now it is the opposit. I can wear it the hole day - and wont took it of. ;-)
I finally got it. The perfect high perferming - perfect fitting and super comfy good looking (black) tennis shoe.

I will defenetly buying it again and again... and again. When announcing a new one (maybe in 2017/2018/2019) I will buy myself a douzen for my personel reserve of these PERFECT sneakers.

I have wide flat feet.
GREAT REVIEW. I Agree. Is your normal size ,, size 9 then ? I bought 1/2 size bigger because that is all they had left back in January in London but I am thinking I could buy my normal size and probably be ok and will be even little bit lighter.........
 

Nibali77

New User
It depends on the brand.
Yes, 9 is the normal size.
But we use Europen Sizes here in Switzerland, 42 it is. But often I use 42.5. But because everyone calculates the switch a little different - here only 43 which is US 9.5. Kind of complicated with all those sizes. EUR sizessystem is kind of stupid - useless in the global world now.

A tipp: The Japan Size is useful ;) not only when buying Yonex ;-) also for other brand and comparement.

JPN Size is built on lenth - in cm (centimenter)

e.x: The eclipsion:
27.0 cm - JPN 270 - US 9 - EUR 42
27.5 cm - JPN 275 - US 9.5 EUR 43

But: A adidas boost runnig:
275 cm - JPN 275 - US 9.5 - EUR 43.1/3

Because these is kind of stupid to compare for us with EUR Size - I often look on the JPN Size now.
270 JPN for tennis fits perfect - a 0.5cm more leangth for easy jogging makes 275

So - I have shoes with the leangth betweet 270 - 275 ;-) - depends on the brand and activity
- eclipsion = 270 (on the smaller bottom of my little scale) - that is perfect in width and legth ;-)
 

norcal

Legend
Don t worry about the toe-box of the PCDII
I ve one.
Had one.
PCDII has a huge toe-box compared to all other tennis-shoes.
If you re looking for that - go for PCDII.

Over all a very nice shoe:
- durable
- wide
- cuision
- medium stable
- fexible
- light
- very comfy


but I brought myself the yonex eclipsion some weeks ago. ---> I love it. Best.

PCDII may be a huge toe box compared to other tennis shoes but not compared to other Yonex shoes. PCDI (and sounds like Rev Pro) is quite a bit wider in the toe box.

That being said I now have 12ish hours on the PCDII and I love these shoes. Agree with Nibali's assessment above - they are the best shoes I have had so far.

Sounds like the Eclipsion may be better but I'll never know because I like these so much and the 2nd pair free outweighs any advantage the Eclipsion may give me (hard to believe it could fit better than the II for ME).

Anyways, carry on with the Yonex nerd-gasm going on in here.
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Will Eclipsion come out in any other color ?? Other than Orange, or Black. I want Red and Black color scheme. that is very cool combo.
 

GioV

Rookie
I picked up a pair of the Eclipsion. It fits my forefoot like a glove. A little heel slippage, but with a change in lacing pattern, it no longer slips. Certainly, it has more of a slim fit than the Power Cushion Fusion Rev, but I like that. It is an amazing performing shoe. Feels fast, yet has plenty of cushioning. No sore feet after playing a couple hours last night. I am really happy with both pairs of my Yonex shoes. I wanna try the Durable line, but I have enough shoes for this season. The Durable is on the top of my list to try next.
 

Nibali77

New User
;-)

the durable II has s
I picked up a pair of the Eclipsion. It fits my forefoot like a glove. A little heel slippage, but with a change in lacing pattern, it no longer slips. Certainly, it has more of a slim fit than the Power Cushion Fusion Rev, but I like that. It is an amazing performing shoe. Feels fast, yet has plenty of cushioning. No sore feet after playing a couple hours last night. I am really happy with both pairs of my Yonex shoes. I wanna try the Durable line, but I have enough shoes for this season. The Durable is on the top of my list to try next.


nice... you will like them too.
but eclipsion is more atp performence.
 

Nibali77

New User
I wish the yellow came in a hard court version, not just clay. Black and red would be nice

Maybe. I visit the flagshipstore from time to time. Sometimes they tell this and that.
But heard nothing.

I also like the - black/pink limited MASTERS series 2015 version.

Maybe they make something similar - limited 2016 for the end of the year?

I would like to have a all black version. black bottom-black-sole and so on.
;-

but as the black eclipion is very close - I am fine ;-)

I will get myself the yellow for clay soon I think.

I really hope they will last long...
 

imajica77

Professional
Hey Nibali77, I picked up the yellow clay court shoe the week TW put them up for sale. I am playing only hard courts with them. They have about 40 hours of play on them right now and are not showing any signs of wear yet. I feel they have still have great traction. Have not had any slips in them. I have done this in the past with other Yonex shoes. They yellow ones I have are a beauty.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Hey Nibali77, I picked up the yellow clay court shoe the week TW put them up for sale. I am playing only hard courts with them. They have about 40 hours of play on them right now and are not showing any signs of wear yet. I feel they have still have great traction. Have not had any slips in them. I have done this in the past with other Yonex shoes. They yellow ones I have are a beauty.
Is there a problem if you use the clay shoe for hard courts ? I know that Tread is different. like Clay shoe tread is supposed to give you better traction on clay courts. but if you use the clay court version on hard courts, not sure if it causes issues with slippering ? or is it just a concern with clay tread wearing too fast ???
 

AMGF

Hall of Fame
Just got to try my PCDII today for the first time. I was an Asics speed users but I was going through 3 pairs a year. So the Durable with their 6months warranty was very appealing.

After 2hours, very comfy. Very light. Very stable (I could slide on hard court without fear). Really no real draw backs compared with the Asics except maybe the fact they could use more ventilation. The Asics run cooler by a noticeable margin.

Very satisfied with my purchase. Top quality shoe.
 

Nibali77

New User
haha...
You re right. Thats the only point negative point under all those positive arguments on the PCDII. The ventilation isn t that good. But a I like to have a little heat on my feets ;-) thats not the problem. But I always needed to put them on the balcony over night to dry faster when I wanted to play the other day. Not a big thing at all. But when I played in the morning and later in the evening there was a little bit on rest humidity. But everything elese is very good on PCDII.
So I guess you like it better then the asics ;-) .?

- I took the black eclipsion for clay. And it works good. Very good. It is called ALLCourt so clay is included. I also played Clay with the PCDII - also ALLCOURT sole.
That said. The most other brands have a similar profile - for clay -> all court. It works.

But the special Clay court sole from the yellow eclipison clay is a bonus for even better clay movement I guess. Thats the reason I will buy myself those when the open season really starts here (only clay!). I really looking forward to that BONUS.
Wawrinka showd how nice the yonex clay sole works when he moved to get the French Open last year with a yonex clay sole. (The sole profile from 2015 is similar with the yellow sole profile!)
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
haha...
You re right. Thats the only point negative point under all those positive arguments on the PCDII. The ventilation isn t that good. But a I like to have a little heat on my feets ;-) thats not the problem. But I always needed to put them on the balcony over night to dry faster when I wanted to play the other day. Not a big thing at all. But when I played in the morning and later in the evening there was a little bit on rest humidity. But everything elese is very good on PCDII.
So I guess you like it better then the asics ;-) .?

- I took the black eclipsion for clay. And it works good. Very good. It is called ALLCourt so clay is included. I also played Clay with the PCDII - also ALLCOURT sole.
That said. The most other brands have a similar profile - for clay -> all court. It works.

But the special Clay court sole from the yellow eclipison clay is a bonus for even better clay movement I guess. Thats the reason I will buy myself those when the open season really starts here (only clay!). I really looking forward to that BONUS.
Wawrinka showd how nice the yonex clay sole works when he moved to get the French Open last year with a yonex clay sole. (The sole profile from 2015 is similar with the yellow sole profile!)
What happens if you wear the Yonex clay sole on Hard courts ?
 

AMGF

Hall of Fame
haha...
You re right. Thats the only point negative point under all those positive arguments on the PCDII. The ventilation isn t that good. But a I like to have a little heat on my feets ;-) thats not the problem. But I always needed to put them on the balcony over night to dry faster when I wanted to play the other day. Not a big thing at all. But when I played in the morning and later in the evening there was a little bit on rest humidity. But everything elese is very good on PCDII.
So I guess you like it better then the asics ;-) .?

Well, it's a bit soon to tell, but I don't miss the Asics so far. But the warmth of the PCD might become problematic later this summer.
 

imajica77

Professional
Nost, there is nothing wrong with wearing clay court shoes on hard courts. There are two things to consider though. You have less tread touching the hard courts. So some people think it makes it more easy to slip. And second most people seem to think they wear out faster since the sole has less over all thickness.

I have used Yonex clay shoes in the past on hard courts and I am using the new Eclipsion clay version on hard also. I have never had a problem with slipping. In the past I thought the clay shoe wore out a bit faster. The Eclipsion has not shown any wear yet. I am wilingl to have to have a trade off in wearing out; to have the color I like.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Nost, there is nothing wrong with wearing clay court shoes on hard courts. There are two things to consider though. You have less tread touching the hard courts. So some people think it makes it more easy to slip. And second most people seem to think they wear out faster since the sole has less over all thickness.

I have used Yonex clay shoes in the past on hard courts and I am using the new Eclipsion clay version on hard also. I have never had a problem with slipping. In the past I thought the clay shoe wore out a bit faster. The Eclipsion has not shown any wear yet. I am wilingl to have to have a trade off in wearing out; to have the color I like.
Thank you. reason I ask is that for some reason CLAY version is little bit lighter in weight. so I am thinking about buying the clay version if performance is same. I like all the colors they have right now so color doesn't matter to me.
 
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