Yonex RD ti80 missing

Preston

Rookie
Hi all,

So Per the Yonex site this racket was supposed to be released today, however I don't see it anywhere. Just curious if anyone has seen this pop up?

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XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Yeah, when I was going crazy over the 200s, I called TW and the rep said they didn't have any demos. Called in again and a rep implied they had them but couldn't send them out. And this was after people on the forums were talking about the demos they got from TW. I guess I'm not as passionate about Yonex as they were. :-/

you should link to this thread in the question/comment section. Perhaps Tiffani or Chris can pull some strings for us. I'm not even going to try so hard even though I'll probably buy the racquet w/o trying it.
 

Preston

Rookie
Alright!!! The racket is posted on TW, and I received confirmation that my demo will ship tomorrow! This is very exciting. I may just be leaving Prince again to back to Yonex, again.

Hopefully tw listing the stiffness as 64 is a typo just like the one where they show it being HH instead of HL. We'll see.
 

Swan Song

Professional
Alright!!! The racket is posted on TW, and I received confirmation that my demo will ship tomorrow! This is very exciting. I may just be leaving Prince again to back to Yonex, again.

Hopefully tw listing the stiffness as 64 is a typo just like the one where they show it being HH instead of HL. We'll see.
The 64 is DEFINITELY a typo. The stiffness should be 61 at the highest. Also, the width is 19/20 mm, the pattern is 16x19, not 16x18, and the grip is a thin, synthetic grip carried over from the old Ti-80.
 
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Errol

New User
Does anyone know if they're still doing the UL/SL business with these things? If I recall, the L4 and L5 versions of the old ti-80 were something like 12.7 strung instead of 12.1 that TW lists. And they had a higher tension range.
 

stevewcosta

Professional
Does anyone know if they're still doing the UL/SL business with these things? If I recall, the L4 and L5 versions of the old ti-80 were something like 12.7 strung instead of 12.1 that TW lists. And they had a higher tension range.
VERY good question and another ridiculous Yonex idiosyncrasy (along with the morphing of their grip shape into something strange). My 3/8 001 mids were all 12.6 with 335+ swingweights---TW couldn't find a single one with a published sw. Another Yonex fail in my opinion. This is coming from a former Yonex devotee (learned tennis with R-7s, R-10s, R-22s---would buy 12 R-10s if I could...puts all of this new shiny, fancy garbage to shame).
 

Preston

Rookie
Don't get too excited yet. Yonex has botched most offerings in the last 20 yrs. All of you sensitive people relax. It's my opinion.
I don't agree or disagree with your opinion, but I am curious if you could expand on the examples that caused you to form this opinion.

Swan- thanks for confirming the specs TW listed are a typo! I will hope you are right!
 

stevewcosta

Professional
I don't agree or disagree with your opinion, but I am curious if you could expand on the examples that caused you to form this opinion.

Sure. Yonex used to be the best. Let's start there - largest sweet spots, no-nonsense 18.5 mm box beams, GREAT feel, power, control, maneuverability...simply awesome. Now, they are bulky, not as manueverable, no feel, too stiff, and crap grip shape (used to be more boxy, now bevels 3 & 6 are thin/sharp...very odd). All they care about is the next hexagonal, titanium mesh or whatever BS they pile on---they have a lot of company. The feel of the last Ti-80 was toy-like tin...a combination of no-feel-terrible-feel...no real discernable ball feel.

Hit with a 6.0 85 and you'll know where the ball is going. Yonex was like that 20 yrs. ago in a larger package = perfection! > 95 sq. in. with feel, manueverability, power and control - ancient history. The 001 was garbage, the ti-80 garbage, RD 7 was a clunky log -nothing has to be >19MM if the weight and balance are "right." I can go on and on with every model since the R-series was discontinued for "better" technology. Owned them all, sold them all.
 

Preston

Rookie
Valid stance Steve. I guess since i've only been playing tennis for about 9 years(started when i was about 20) I didn't get to experience a lot of these older frames people rave about. Maybe that's to my benefit cause I don't know what i'm missing.

I have started a small collection of unique/classic frames. One happens to be a prostaff 85 that I picked up from my local shop when an ex pro stringer/customizer cleared out his left over rackets. There were a bunch of lendyl(sp) frames with that little piece of sandpaper on the throat, and crap ton of other frames. Those were sweet. I will have to string up the prostaff and hit it. Right now it just has the custom handle with no leather grip or butt cap.

What do you currently hit?
 

stevewcosta

Professional
Valid stance Steve. I guess since i've only been playing tennis for about 9 years(started when i was about 20) I didn't get to experience a lot of these older frames people rave about. Maybe that's to my benefit cause I don't know what i'm missing.

I have started a small collection of unique/classic frames. One happens to be a prostaff 85 that I picked up from my local shop when an ex pro stringer/customizer cleared out his left over rackets. There were a bunch of lendyl(sp) frames with that little piece of sandpaper on the throat, and crap ton of other frames. Those were sweet. I will have to string up the prostaff and hit it. Right now it just has the custom handle with no leather grip or butt cap.

What do you currently hit?
Hi Preston. Yes, you are lucky because tennis has become frustrating when you CAN'T buy what you like. I currently hit with 6.0 85s and custom Vantage 90s 63 RA. Still like the 6.0 more but it's too damn small for my level and age - just turned 40 and I'm a 4.0. I played at a much higher level with the older Yonex frames - they were around 97 - 98 sq. inches...perfect. Only improvement over 20 yrs. has been great cosmetics. Muted tennis with thick racquets is what it's all about now - I'm not interested.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Hi Preston. Yes, you are lucky because tennis has become frustrating when you CAN'T buy what you like. I currently hit with 6.0 85s and custom Vantage 90s 63 RA. Still like the 6.0 more but it's too damn small for my level and age - just turned 40 and I'm a 4.0. I played at a much higher level with the older Yonex frames - they were around 97 - 98 sq. inches...perfect. Only improvement over 20 yrs. has been great cosmetics. Muted tennis with thick racquets is what it's all about now - I'm not interested.
Your opinion is valid. And here's mine:

Yonex offers great player frames. Each new racquet is a different experience. Technologies have advanced from 20 years ago. They may feel different but it's not because they're poorer quality. You may not have found a racquet with the exact specs you like, but millions of people around the world have whether it's Wilson, Babolat, Prince, etc.

You played a lot better with older Yonex frames probably has more to do with your age then than it does with the racquet. Plenty of old people are playing great with the latest racquets.

My opinion.
 

stevewcosta

Professional
Your opinion is valid. And here's mine:

Yonex offers great player frames. Each new racquet is a different experience. Technologies have advanced from 20 years ago. They may feel different but it's not because they're poorer quality. You may not have found a racquet with the exact specs you like, but millions of people around the world have whether it's Wilson, Babolat, Prince, etc.

You played a lot better with older Yonex frames probably has more to do with your age then than it does with the racquet. Plenty of old people are playing great with the latest racquets.

My opinion.
Partially true but you don't know the whole story - I'm not talking about 1986 experiences. Had an old R-10 & R-22 until I was 35 (stupidly sold them). Never really logged much time on tennis courts in my life. Was a semi-pro basketball player (in my mind) and tennis was secondary. If I could play w/the R-10s now I believe I would be a strong 4.0 rather than a weak one since everything grooved with that racquet. Perfection and simplistic. What the hell is the deal with these stupid specs these days? A minor flaw, but why is this new ti-80 19.5/19/21 or whatever - really idiotic and too bulky @ 21. Do they really think there's an advantage with these graduated beam widths? Nonsense. I guarantee this will be cheap feeling but I hope I'm wrong...
 

stevewcosta

Professional
Your opinion is valid. And here's mine:

Yonex offers great player frames. Each new racquet is a different experience. Technologies have advanced from 20 years ago. They may feel different but it's not because they're poorer quality. You may not have found a racquet with the exact specs you like, but millions of people around the world have whether it's Wilson, Babolat, Prince, etc.

You played a lot better with older Yonex frames probably has more to do with your age then than it does with the racquet. Plenty of old people are playing great with the latest racquets.

My opinion.
Couple of additional points: millions of people don't know what quality graphite racquets feel like because they are too young. If you grow up playing with the Pure Drive or the dead Nadal 26mm awful racquet, they may seem terrific because that's their baseline experience. Also, can you seriously say that modern Yonex players frames are as good now as the R-22 or RX-32? - not even close (001 is super stiff and needs a diet). By the way, what made Yonex R-series racquets so special is that you could get "players frame" characteristics in a > 95 sq. in. package. The R-10, for example, had an 18.5 mm box beam, 12+ ounce weight, was headlight & crisp with controllable power, incredible spin and was either 97 or 98 sq. in. Would buy the POG OS but that thing is ENORMOUS. 110 is overkill for me.
 

Preston

Rookie
I'm switching to the new ti80. This thing is stable with the least about of nasty vibrations I've ever experienced. The frame is soft but supplies crisp power and the sweet spot feels very easy to find. Control is excellent imo thanks to such a great feel at contact.

Steve- i'd be interested to here what you think of this frame. Give it a demo?
 

stevewcosta

Professional
I'm switching to the new ti80. This thing is stable with the least about of nasty vibrations I've ever experienced. The frame is soft but supplies crisp power and the sweet spot feels very easy to find. Control is excellent imo thanks to such a great feel at contact.

Steve- i'd be interested to here what you think of this frame. Give it a demo?
Hey Preston. I'm definitely going to demo. I would love to be able to praise Yonex again but the specs are not getting me too excited (mostly sw [not TWs - there's is not accurate] and beam width - too thick)
 

Preston

Rookie
Bummer Steve :cry:

I understand why though

Xfactorer- I guess i'm back on your side in regards to racket brand, but I'm always on your side of the court in league...
 

racquetfreak

Semi-Pro
Partially true but you don't know the whole story - I'm not talking about 1986 experiences. Had an old R-10 & R-22 until I was 35 (stupidly sold them). Never really logged much time on tennis courts in my life. Was a semi-pro basketball player (in my mind) and tennis was secondary. If I could play w/the R-10s now I believe I would be a strong 4.0 rather than a weak one since everything grooved with that racquet. Perfection and simplistic. What the hell is the deal with these stupid specs these days? A minor flaw, but why is this new ti-80 19.5/19/21 or whatever - really idiotic and too bulky @ 21. Do they really think there's an advantage with these graduated beam widths? Nonsense. I guarantee this will be cheap feeling but I hope I'm wrong...
there are plenty of r-7/r-22 frames on the market in great condition available and cheap. why not stock up and return to the "glory days?"
 

stevewcosta

Professional
there are plenty of r-7/r-22 frames on the market in great condition available and cheap. why not stock up and return to the "glory days?"
But not so easy to find R-10s - prefer 95+ sq. in. - Otherwise, I'd just stay with my five 6.0 85s (9.0/10). that are the best mids ever.
 
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