Yonex RDiS 100 Mid 93 Sq In

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I acually really like the rds002 tour- it is a great frame! My only universal gripe about yonex is how thin their stock grips are, I smoosh them flat in two or three hours and then the grip feels a size smaller. I did the same thing to the kps 88 I denied after ten hours of play the grip measured under 4 3/8 on a 4 1/2 grip sized raquet.
 

Jagman

Rookie
I've found that the RDiS 100 (93 Mid) can be an outstanding racquet, given sufficient time to adjust to what I,and some others, have perceived to be a lighter than spec swingweight. While I don't doubt the specs, the racquet does seem to have a tendency to move very quickly through the ball. This can be a good thing if you're purposely trying to increase racquet head speed; less desireable if you're not. This seems to be a perception thing as some have noted it and others have not. I prefer to play my racquets stock, with only the addition of an overgrip and dampener. I will heartily endorse the notion that the RDiS, like any player's racquet, will reward good form or technique. With this stick, being smooth is important. You don't want to try to muscle the ball. While timing for me was initially a problem, I have stuck with the RDiS Mid and that issue has largely disappeared. Note, however, this required, for me, playing primarily with the RDiS as my main stick from early February on.

For me, coming from the RDS 001 Mid, the RDiS is the best serving Yonex I have come across. Indeed, I regard it as a great serving stick period. Although not readily perceived (by me), it has excellent heft on groundstrokes and volleys, providing good pace and stick. I have found spin to be readily accessible and excellent touch. It is a very stiff frame, but facing opponents who hit a really big ball, I could swear that there is a bit of discernible flex (maybe that nanocup stuff works?).

The stiffness is also a factor that I had to work through. I normally string with Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour or a hybrid at around 60 lbs. I found a pure poly string job with the RDiS to be too jarring on occasion, causing some arm soreness after long workouts. I recently strung my high schooler's PD with TNT2 at 60 lbs. and then did the same with the RDiS after getting some rave reviews. I don't really know how to classify TNT, as it appears to be a co-polymer core with a multi-wrap. It plays soft with a little extra pop like a multi, but has excellent control, reminiscent of a poly. My son and I really like it. For me, it has really brought out the potential of the RDiS. I played my oldest boy, who is a teaching pro, the other day and really dominated play, which is an increasingly rare occurrence nowadays. I was even able to successfully serve and volley a few points.

The RDiS Mid is a great stick. Just give it some time and don't be afraid to experiment a bit with different strings and tensions. It does tend to reward good technique though, which conversely suggests that it may be more punishing or penalyzing for those that haven't attained yet either technique or consistency. Worth a demo at least, especially if you're a Yonex fan.

Cheers!
 
Very well said, jagman. Appreciate you taking the time to write that out. I'll add from my experience - my assumption was that the 93 headsize and stiff specs would have me stringing this racquet very loose. Tried Yonex Tour Super 850 Pro @ 55 and initially thought it was too tight. Got a second RDiS mid and same string @50. Stick with the suggested Yonex range, tension too loose takes away the great qualities of this frame. Very happy overall with the Tour Super 850 Pro so far, holds tension/playability really well for a multi.
 
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imalil2gangsta4u

Hall of Fame
Very well said, jagman. Appreciate you taking the time to write that out. I'll add from my experience - my assumption was that the 93 headsize and stiff specs would have me stringing this racquet very loose. Tried Yonex Tour Super 850 Pro @ 55 and initially thought it was too tight. Got a second RDiS mid and same string @50. Stick with the suggested Yonex range, tension too loose takes away the great qualities of this frame. Very happy overall with the Tour Super 850 Pro so far, holds tension/playability really well for a multi.
I had the same experience with super 850 pro. it felt very stiff to my at first but then when i tried it at a lower tension, i went back to 58. very crisp feeling multi.
 

db379

Hall of Fame
Jagman, Dzone and others,

Thanks for the great thread. Any news about the stick? Still in love with it?

I'm curious about the tension on this racquet. I haven't played it yet, but I'm just a little concerned about the stiffness. I guess you can make it more comfortable by choosing the right string/tension? Any recommendations?
 

T1000

Legend
I love this stick! Long time user of yonex sticks (rdx 500, rds 001, rqis 1 tour, rds 001 2008) this is the best one imo. Great power, nice spin, forgiveness, its got everything. I string it with x-1 biphase at 56 lbs and luxilon big banger alu power at 58. I put a leather grip on it and added lead on the handle at 3 and 9. i kept the balance the same it it now weighs 13.5 ounces strung. never switching again!
 

Jagman

Rookie
RDiS Mid Update

db379, I don't really know what to recommend for others, as I haven't really experimented much with tension on the RDiS Mid and have only used a couple string setups so far.

As noted before, the stiffness of the RDiS was a factor for me, as I did experience some soreness on occasion using a full set of PHT. I never experienced any tenderness with a full set of PHT in my RDS Mids or with a PHT hybrid. PHT is probably my favorite string at present. Originally, I had the RDiS strung with a multifilament, Head Rip Control, that produced pretty good pop, albeit at the sacrifice of some control. At the time, I swapped that string out for a full set of PHT in an attempt to add a bit of heft to the racquet and help put the brakes on what I felt then was a bit of excessive batspeed. Since then (that was 3 months ago), I've come around to the view that having that quick acceleration on tap is a good thing and have worked on adjusting my timing to accomodate the racquet. My strokes have become much smoother in the process and I've regained the capacity for occasional explosiveness that I thought had gone the way of my youth. Nice thing is, that's carried over into my play with other racquets as well (to some extent; the RDiS definitely has more pop than the RDS in my experience). I have TNT2 in my main stick now (and PHT in a second RDiS). The TNT is a soft hit; very nice. I might give the edge in control to PHT, but not by much. The TNT strings do move about, which can be annoying when used to poly. However, the TNT has a good feel and hits fairly crisp. Also, the price is right, about half the cost of PHT. I plan on trying some of the softer polys, which I think would work well in the RDiS, but I want what I have in there now to go dead or break first. I have never experimented much with tension, having strung my racquets between 55-60 lbs since the days of wood. I may have to try a full poly at a lower tension someday, as I understand this to be the true benefit of polyester strings, but I don't think that will be anytime soon. Have to rely on the experience of others in that arena, I think.

I will reiterate, that IMO, the RDiS Mid is a racquet that requires an extended adjustment period. I bought into the racquet and made that commitment only because I saw the potential for growth in my game early on. I had watched Hewitt play in the Brisbane tournament prior to this years AO and thought he (for Hewitt) had an unusual amount of pop on his serves and tad more zip to his groundies. Coming off of hip surgery, I attributed this more to Hewitt's new racquet than an improvement in conditioning. Demoing the RDiS, my expectations were realized, and I decided to work through the timing issues, which at times (no pun), could be exasperating. I'm glad I made the effort, but effort it did require. In stock form, I find the RDiS to be a solid racquet.

I had played around briefly with adding lead to make the RDiS conform to my existing game. As has been my experience in the past, this detracted, I felt, from the characteristics that to me, made the racquet unique and desireable. Others have had great success with customizing the RDiS to their exact specifications. I chose to alter my technique modestly to realize the stock potential of the RDiS and in doing so, gained a recognizable improvement in my level of play. Probably, the RDiS just helped to highlight an existing flaw in my stroke production, but it has been an interesting and satisfying journey all the same.

I should caution you against demoing the RDiS with frames that have higher perceived or real swingweights. For example, my oldest son is now hitting the KPS as his main stick. I love to hit with it on occasion, but switching back and forth with the RDiS quickly becomes a timing nightmare for both. For me, it can make a really good day on the courts go south fast. Just my experience, but one, I suspect, that may not be that uncommon.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
I've had the chance to demo it and just ordered one. I think it's a very nice racquet. I admit that I haven't spent enough time with it yet, but for a racquet that has a relatively light swing-weight, it has great plow-through.

It is stiff though I think it flexes in all the right places and it never felt harsh to me--even with using Luxilon. It's worth a demo.
 

db379

Hall of Fame
Thanks a lot for the comments.

Jagman, I appreciate your long response, and your commitment to changing your strokes and sticking to this racquet really seem to have been a rewarding experience. I think that I might follow the same path if I start using the rdis. I have to say that I always liked yonex players sticks. One of my all time favorites is the rdti 70 for those of you who know it. I still occasionally swing it and it always feels right for my game. What I really like is that it has great control and I really feel connected to my shots. Don't know if it makes sense but that's how I would describe it. I can really swing it without fear of overhitting, and I can pretty much paint the lines if I want to. Power is also there. The 88 is fairly stiff although not uncomfortable. I am hoping the rdis mid will be somewhat similar in terms of precision and connection to my shots. Unfortunately I cannot demo the mid where I live.
 

christo

Hall of Fame
USRSA lists the SW for this frame as 308 and it sure feels like it , I'm trying to beef mine up to the 320'ish range with lead tape.
 

In D Zone

Hall of Fame
Jagman, Dzone and others,

Thanks for the great thread. Any news about the stick? Still in love with it?

I'm curious about the tension on this racquet. I haven't played it yet, but I'm just a little concerned about the stiffness. I guess you can make it more comfortable by choosing the right string/tension? Any recommendations?


Yes - still using the same set up and has not changed anything at all since my last posting. I have already purchased a second copy (still wrapped and un strung).

I have been very pleased with my set up and felt more at ease playing with the RDiS. One thing I noticed is to really trust your technique and footwork - not force yourself into muscling your shots (RDIS will let you know - your shoulder or arm will get sore). The more relax I play my game has become more consistent. I can count on the RDis to deliver - power, spin and lastly control.
 

Rexking

Professional
Sorry to go off topic. Anyone compared the headsize between RDiS 100 Mid and RQiS 1 Tour? I had them side by side, the headsize were virtually the same, in fact the 100 Mid even has a wider hoop than the RQIS 1! If someone could do one of those headsize scans (KPS88 vs K90 thread) for both, it's possible the 100 Mid might actually be bigger than 93sq.in.
Bump.

Also can anyone comment on how the rdis93 is on different serves (flat, spin, kick)? Thanks
 

iksmols

Semi-Pro
I use it as well and it feels very good in all aspects of the game. My previous racquet was Wilson K90 , but ultimately I opted for similar package with 2 trade offs : backhand slice is better with K90 but Rdis has bigger sweetzone . You can`t go wrong with either one of them.
 

1st Seed

Professional
How would the transition from a k95 to RDis 93"? be?I'm hoping the difference won't be to drastic,how long has it taken you guy's to adapt from you're previous sticks?,considering that they had {you're sticks}similiar characteristics.I've read some k90 transitions wondering mostly about the k95 to the 93"Yonex.I feel and firmly believe that Yonex makes a better quality racquet than most companies.Must be the Japanese graphite.Might be making the switch need to grab a few hrs demo though.
Any feed back on this topic would be great Thanks.
 

Jagman

Rookie
Hi, 1st Seed. If you search this forum, you'll see a few threads on the RDiS Mid (like this one) where users recount their experiences with the racquet. A lot of these are pretty on point with your question.

To summarize a bit for you, there are a variety of responses. IIRC, I believe there was at least one Canadian player, at least partially sponsored by Yonex, that knew his specs, added lead, and was good to go from the start. Others took more coaxing and some gave up the racquet altogether. I took about two months over the winter, playing mainly with just the RDiS Mid in stock form, to adjust to the timing problems I experienced with the lower swingweight. It would also appear that one's appreciation for the RDiS is highly dependent upon string selection and tension.

I happen to love Wilson racquets as well as Yonex. I have a PS85, K95, K90, and KPS88 that I like to hit with from time to time. However, I have found, for me, that the RDiS does not mix well with other racquets. Going from one to the other really messes with the timing on my groundstrokes. I have to have a Wilson night, now, where I'll take no more than one night a week and just hit with a couple of the Wilsons. The rest of the week, the RDiS takes center stage. This seems to work out for me.

I'm not saying that you will have similar problems in adjusting from a K95 to a RDiS Mid. YMMV. I would recommend though, that in order to give the RDiS a fair shake, you demo only that racquet for a week. (I know its tough not demoing 4 from TW; my middle boy is going through that process now). For most people, there does seem to be some adjustment period required in order to realize the full potential of the RDiS. If you just hit with one for 2-3 hours and let it go at that, I'm afraid the odds are you will not like it. Food for thought.

Hope that helped. Cheers!
 

1st Seed

Professional
Well said thanks.In Toronto the store only carries the RDiS Midplus98".In order for me to try I have to buy.Keeping my eyes on the F/S posts but these bad boys don't last long.This stick is getting a lot of praise from players that have, our have tried the Mid.Thanks again.
 

Jagman

Rookie
On another note, an RDiS Mid Update

I recently had the opportunity to purchase a couple of additional RDiS Mids from none other than tennisntn3477, a fellow contributor to this thread. As the racquets came unstrung, I elected to put in a full set of Yonex Tour Super 850 at 60 lbs.

I had recalled hearing about the virtues of this string from more than one poster and decided to give it a try. I picked up a couple sets from TW and have had it sitting around the house for a while. I was surprised, when reviewing this thread, to see that tennisntn3477 was among those recommending the string. What a coincidence! (tennisntn3477 is a great seller, by the way. As a happy "customer", I feel obliged to sing his praises.)

At any rate, I got to hit briefly with the setup yesterday between raindrops, and today for a little more than an hour. I'm very impressed with the 850. For a multifilament, there is very little movement of the stringbed. Although the stringbed appears firm, there is a degree of noticeable -- and welcome -- cupping around the ball during the stroke. Impact is soft, almost cushioned. My arm felt really good after hitting; I credit the soft feel of the string with dissipating a lot of the vibration I would otherwise have received from such a stiff frame (I'm talking about the kind of vibration that's not apparent during play, but which you may observe later in the form of sore muscles and joints).

I thought the string had a reasonable amount of pop, good feel, and produced excellent spin. This was true of both groundies and serve. Volleys really stuck too. With the addition of a dampener (Gamma Shockbuster I), the racquet resonated with a satisfying "THWACK" with every hit. The string also felt somewhat "crisp"; an enjoyable sensation in a racquet that I had earlier noted, IMO, lended itself to a more muted response.

While I prefer an 18 or 17 gauge string, TW only had the 850 in 16 gauge. I didn't notice any reduction in spin or control with the thicker string. In fact, control was very good. Even though I was not in my best form on this outing, I felt that I could hit out with confidence. I probably need a little more time with this setup, but I think I can already state, IMO, that Tour Super 850 ranks right up there with TNT2 as a well-performing, arm-friendly string in the RDiS Mid.

Cheers!
 

1st Seed

Professional
I usually always use highend Multi's.What string could you guys suggest to slap on my RDiS for our first date?Think it's best to go with a lower powered string,Head RC,or some more pop like a Weiss Cannon Explosiv.Also have a few packs of NRG 16's.Used to put my K6.1's in the 55# range not to tight, not to low.Interesting to see how my game will benefit from the Mid.
Thanks again for the feedback.
 

Jagman

Rookie
I used Head Rip Control on my first outing with the RDiS Mid, strung at 60. I think 55 lbs tension would be good too. I don't know whether you'd want more pop than that on a first date.

I'd be interested to hear about your first experience with Head RC or similar string in the RDiS. Keep an eye on your racquet head speed and report back.

Have a good hit!
 

1st Seed

Professional
Thanks Jag I appreciate you're concern.I'm stoked to swing this bad boy.Being using wilson's 95" line since I was 10,I'm now 31.I'm thinking the HRC will let me see the true stiffness og the RDiS.This is my first yonex,the specs really appeal to me.After I got a full week on the stick I'll know where I stand.
Thanks Again jag for the reply.
Take care.
 

1st Seed

Professional
Oh Baby what a stick! Jag this 93 plays more comfortable than my K95's sweet spot is generous to say the least.I decided to slap on some NRG 16's@54 for our first date perfect string for the special occasion.I had no trouble with the lower swing weight at all
.First day slowed everthing down just to get a good feel for the different balance.And it all just starting coming together beauitfully,Just popped 3days ago was amazed how much longer my strings lasted me with the dense pattern but then again my former K95''s eats strings.This switch has gone way better than I expected.Going to keep the tension in the lower 50's with some nice Multi setups.I'll post a full review after a month under my belt.
To all my peoples looking for a nice players stick that does everything sweetly go and grab one to try.Stable and Solid great for exchanging blows at the baseline.
 

Jagman

Rookie
1st Seed, glad to see the honeymoon went well! Thanks for the update. I'm always interested in how others experience and perceive this frame. While I enjoy dallying occasionally with other sticks, the RDiS Mid will likely be my main bat for some time to come.

I'm currently still using TNT2, Livewire, and Yonex 850 (both versions; I can't really tell any difference in playability) in my racquets. These are relatively soft hits with good control. I'm really liking the 850, as the strings aren't as prone to movement. I'm still stringing in the 55-60 lbs. range, as performance tends to drop off noticeably for me below that tension.

I'll be very interested in your forthcoming in-depth review.

Cheers!
 

Meaghan

Hall of Fame
Im selling mine in UK 9.5/10 only hit a couple of times, 1 tiny chip 2x3mm on top of hoop from rackets in bag damage but other than that just ball fluff.
Email in my profile if interested ....
 

Jagman

Rookie
RDiS Mid 93 with Yonex Tour Brid Hybrid

Although I have settled on the RDiS Mid as my main stick, I continue to experiment with various strings and tensions. I leave lead and other customization well enough alone, as these have never been of particular benefit to me. YMMV, of course.

Today, I tried out three new variations, only one of which was actually novel (for myself). My racquet for the day was newly purchased (took a chance on the auction site and made out okay), sported a smaller grip than normal, and was strung with a new string setup at very low tension (for me). I played three sets of doubles this morning along with some rallying; probably 3-3.5 hours of total play.

For most of my life, I have used an L5 grip. I picked up a couple of RDiS Mids from a TW poster with L4 grips and have found I prefer this grip size, at least on the RDiS Mid. I have hit with a K90 and KPS satisfactorily with an L3 grip and decided to try that with the RDiS Mid. The new racquet is an L3. The smaller size, I think, facilitates changing grips during play and provides a little more action on serves and overheads. I didn't think there was any significant advantage over the L4 grip, and --- at least at this stage --- still prefer the L4 size overall.

The string was Yonex Tough Brid, a poly and multi hybrid from Yonex. A set came with the racquet. Since I wanted to experiment, I figured why waste a good set of ALU or PHT. Both strings are marked "Tough Brid". The poly is 16 gauge. IIRC, the multi is 16L. The poly is very stiff, much stiffer than anything from Gamma, Babolat, or Technifibre. The multi was much softer, of course, and felt as though it was textured.

I usually string at 55-60 lbs tension, with a strong bias for 60 lbs, even where poly is concerned. Lately, I have been interested in experiencing the playability of poly at lower tensions. For this setup, I put the poly in the mains at 48 lbs and the multi went in the crosses at 46 lbs.

Other than an overgrip (Yonex Supergrap), I normally use a Gamma I or II Shokbuster vibration dampener. In this case, it was the "double worm" Shokbuster II. This deepens the sound of the ball impact a bit, and is important to my ability to discern how a racquet feels. It is most helpful where I am using a racquet that offers a more muted response, such as the RDiS (as compared to my previous stick, the RDS001 Mid, which --- like the TW review --- I would call "crisp").

The lower tensions also seem to provoke a more muffled "thwack" at contact, which tends to throw off my auditory cues. I get the mistaken impression that the ball is travelling slower. With this setup, that is certainly not the case, as I was concerned about the added pace during warmup. The lower tension does provide additional power, although the feel is so different, that I still find it somewhat difficult to control.

There was not as good cupping of the ball on the strings with the Tough Brid; at least not as good as I have experienced with, say, Gamma Power in a K90 at 50. However, the ball did stay on the strings noticeably longer. A long, smooth, stroke pattern provided the best results. Too much emphasis on accelerating the racquet head could easily result in moving the intended path of the ball over several inches toward the sideline. Spin was good, but depth could be adversely affected by a more extreme motion on the groundstroke.

The lower tension did provide a comfortable hit with an otherwise harsh feeling poly in a very stiff frame. Of course, the racquet was freshly strung, but the poly was so stiff during stringing that I attribute the softness of the hit almost entirely to the relatively low tension. I had absolutely no discomfort from a solid morning of hitting.

I was not too impressed with the performance of the Yonex Tough Brid hybrid. It performed adequately, but did nothing especially well. There are several other polys (Redcode, PHT, Zo Sweet, ALU, to name a few) that I thought "felt" substantially better. Perhaps Tough Brid will excel at durability. Only time will tell.

So far, low tension appears to be a great way to experience the joys of poly in a stiff frame without sacrificing your arm. At least for me. Again, YMMV.

Cheers!
 
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