Yonex vcore duel g 97 310?

[dnj30]

Looking for feedback from anyone who has played it.. I currently play Tec 315 Ltd 16m that I have weighted up to about 342g..Looking for something a little lighter but similar playing characteristics.. Yonex specs seem good, but would love any advice..

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[cluckcluck]

It's a solid frame, definitely control oriented and comfortable. I haven't played with the 315LTD so hard for me to compare. I personally have to commit to every shot, the racquet isn't forgiving for halfa$$ed swings. Every shot has to be hit with enough racquet head speed.

 

[topspn]

I have one in my bag. A bit light for me stock especially with the swing weight. I added some weight 10 and 2 and under the butt cap to compensate and it plays great. Very nice feel and I would call it precision and control oriented but with good mechanics can be bring in pretty good power. Really good racquet to customize to your liking

 

[dnj30]

I have one in my bag. A bit light for me stock especially with the swing weight. I added some weight 10 and 2 and under the butt cap to compensate and it plays great. Very nice feel and I would call it precision and control oriented but with good mechanics can be bring in pretty good power. Really good racquet to customize to your liking

Was thinking the same about customizing it a bit, but keeping it under 12oz.

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[kimguroo]

T-fight might have more power and trajectory is much higher than tour-g.
Angell might be another option too.

 

[dnj30]

T-fight might have more power and trajectory is much higher than tour-g.
Angell might be another option too.

More power? Hmmm. Was thinking Yonex would have little more pop. Interesting.

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[smalahove]

I've been playing the Duel G97 for a while now; I have both the 310 g and 330 g versions.

It's always difficult to relate to descriptions like "power" and "pop", as we have different perspectives and references. That being said: I've been through a great numbers of frames over the last few years, and to me, this is the best compromise so far, if your prefer thin beamed player's frames. I thought I had found perfect frames in the: Textreme Tour 95 (lacked power), RF97A (too cumbersome/clubby) and the new Pure Strike 16x19 (too stiff, too Babolat'ish and too tweener/hollow-feeling). The DG97 has been a great compromise among above.

It doesn't give me the (feeling of) free power and pop of the PS, but even without actual measurements, I think a major part of this perceived difference is just that: a feeling, and not necessarily one that translates into mph and rpms.

With good weight transfer I have no problem to generate good pace, and whilst both the PS and RF97A f.inst. had somewhat more to offer in that department, the 16x20 pattern of the DG97 offers me better control. One frame that offers a both power and control is the Pure Strike Tour; but that was too stiff and a little too flat for my taste, but a great attacking frame, still.

And the feel of maneuverability is several notches above, due to the thin beamed frame.

 

[dnj30]

I've been playing the Duel G97 for a while now; I have both the 310 g and 330 g versions.

It's always difficult to relate to descriptions like "power" and "pop", as we have different perspectives and references. That being said: I've been through a great numbers of frames over the last few years, and to me, this is the best compromise so far, if your prefer thin beamed player's frames. I thought I had found perfect frames in the: Textreme Tour 95 (lacked power), RF97A (too cumbersome/clubby) and the new Pure Strike 16x19 (too stiff, too Babolat'ish and too tweener/hollow-feeling). The DG97 has been a great compromise among above.

It doesn't give me the (feeling of) free power and pop of the PS, but even without actual measurements, I think a major part of this perceived difference is just that: a feeling, and not necessarily one that translates into mph and rpms.

With good weight transfer I have no problem to generate good pace, and whilst both the PS and RF97A f.inst. had somewhat more to offer in that department, the 16x20 pattern of the DG97 offers me better control. One frame that offers a both power and control is the Pure Strike Tour; but that was too stiff and a little too flat for my taste, but a great attacking frame, still.

And the feel of maneuverability is several notches above, due to the thin beamed frame.

Thanks, sounds good. I love the feel of the tec and how flexible it is.. But I'm not getting any younger and have to admit it may just be too heavy for me to use effectively for 3 tough sets of singles.. Still want something flexible, thin beamed, and low powered, but a little lighter and maybe a stick that will help me more. I realize that's a tall order bc there is no substitute for weight in a racket.
Appreciate the feedback..

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[Frans Bleker]

I like it alot actually, the low swingweight gives you plenty of control. In my experience it is easy to play aggresive with this frame because you don't have to worry too much about overhitting. Basically it has; Control, Spin, and it is very maneuverable, it does NOT have; alot of of power from itself, and it is not really the most stable frame.

 

[tribesmen]

330gr version is super stable with all other qualities you listed. Plus, plays super soft for 66RA, e.g. much softer than Angell TC 97 18x20.

 

[Strawbewwy]

I've had both the Duel G 97 310g and a Tech 315 ltd 18m for only about a week, initial impressions:

duel g is just like smalahove mentioned, it's a great compromise. It feels like a heavier racquet (I'm used to ~12 ouncers) and took me no time getting used to. Control oriented but not on the extreme low end on power scale.

the 315 ltd 18m feels softer, and much easier on my arm. It's actually funny how low the swing weight is and when I first played with it, i missed a few shots consecutively because I swung too fast and missed the ball entirely (i'm used to heavy racquets).

Both racquets played really well although I lean towards the technifbre for "feel", it's my first time to swing such a low swing weight racquet and I think i like it a lot! It has the weight for stability but at the same time extremely easy to swing, full fast strokes and feels easier on my arm.

Have you considered taking the weight off from your 16m?

 

[dnj30]

I've had both the Duel G 97 310g and a Tech 315 ltd 18m for only about a week, initial impressions:

duel g is just like smalahove mentioned, it's a great compromise. It feels like a heavier racquet (I'm used to ~12 ouncers) and took me no time getting used to. Control oriented but not on the extreme low end on power scale.

the 315 ltd 18m feels softer, and much easier on my arm. It's actually funny how low the swing weight is and when I first played with it, i missed a few shots consecutively because I swung too fast and missed the ball entirely (i'm used to heavy racquets).

Both racquets played really well although I lean towards the technifbre for "feel", it's my first time to swing such a low swing weight racquet and I think i like it a lot! It has the weight for stability but at the same time extremely easy to swing, full fast strokes and feels easier on my arm.

Have you considered taking the weight off from your 16m?

Thanks for the comparison.. I don't expect anything to feel as good as the tec, just similar.
I could try taking off the lead and playing it stock, but the sw is so low. Worth a try tho.
How do the 2 compare for spin and power in your opinion?


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[Strawbewwy]

might not be the most accurate/fair comparison:
The 315 ltd 18m just came in from tw with rpm blast main and nrg2 with no records of tension, but from what it feels like i think it's roughly ~55lbs or so.
The duel g I strung up with a 12 year old pack of gamma syn gut 16 (i switched to poly since i came back and recently started having arm issues, so i thought i'd put it on to try) at 54 and cyclone 19 cross at 48.

the duel G definitely had more power in this set up, but it was not "excessive", it's more of a... "it's there if you want to tap into it" feel, similar to a more modern tweener.

the spin in my opinion were close although i think the duel G had a tad bit more advantage, but since you have the 16m version it should be more spin friendly than my 18m.

Overall i personally prefer the 315, it gives me a more satisfying feel after a full swing, it's very plush.

I believe someone suggested 3-4 grams on the 12 o'clock raises the sw nicely on the 315 ltd's hope it helps!

 

[mark1]

I thought the 315 ltd was discontinued?

 

[RoarTT]

I've been playing the Duel G97 for a while now; I have both the 310 g and 330 g versions.

It's always difficult to relate to descriptions like "power" and "pop", as we have different perspectives and references. That being said: I've been through a great numbers of frames over the last few years, and to me, this is the best compromise so far, if your prefer thin beamed player's frames. I thought I had found perfect frames in the: Textreme Tour 95 (lacked power), RF97A (too cumbersome/clubby) and the new Pure Strike 16x19 (too stiff, too Babolat'ish and too tweener/hollow-feeling). The DG97 has been a great compromise among above.

It doesn't give me the (feeling of) free power and pop of the PS, but even without actual measurements, I think a major part of this perceived difference is just that: a feeling, and not necessarily one that translates into mph and rpms.

With good weight transfer I have no problem to generate good pace, and whilst both the PS and RF97A f.inst. had somewhat more to offer in that department, the 16x20 pattern of the DG97 offers me better control. One frame that offers a both power and control is the Pure Strike Tour; but that was too stiff and a little too flat for my taste, but a great attacking frame, still.

And the feel of maneuverability is several notches above, due to the thin beamed frame.

How do you find the maneuverability of the DG330 compared to the Pure Strike Tour?

 

[dnj30]

I thought the 315 ltd was discontinued?

It is, but it's still very popular and plenty of them out there in the used market.

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[McLovin]

Just ordered a used one from TW. I played with the original for 4 months (see thread here, sorry, pics are missing) before returning to my X Force Pro. Thought I'd give the Duel G a shot.

My current frame is very similar in specs (Pacific X Tour 97), and I love it, but that doesn't mean I can't 'play the field'. It arrived today and am hitting tomorrow, so I'll try to give a brief review.

 

[topspn]

The extent of my modifications have been 2.8gm of tungsten divided between 2&10 and similar under the butt cap. Plays really well fun poly 48lbs. I find pretty good power with good levels of precision.

 

[smalahove]

How do you find the maneuverability of the DG330 compared to the Pure Strike Tour?

They are very different rackets. I found the PST easy to manoeuvre and fast to swing (I owned two). I only have one DG97 330, so it might not be representative, but the main diff to the 310 version, is that it feels a little bit firmer, and has more weight in the throat area. Compared to the PST, it's a little less maneuverable and feels a bit more clubby, more towards a RF97A (but without the pop). The PST produces more ballspeed, but with a lower launch angle and modern feel (albeit a solid one). The PST has family traits with the new PS, the DG330 with the IG Prestiges.

 

[galapagos]

If you are thinking about duelg 310 consider angell tc 18x20 ask for about 290 sw unstrung. 315 or 320 g . They perform similar with the specs i mentioned but angell a bit better in every category. The biggest difference is duel g feels empty inside and angell is super solid. Duel g might vibrate on impact. Angell more muted

 

[RoarTT]

They are very different rackets. I found the PST easy to manoeuvre and fast to swing (I owned two). I only have one DG97 330, so it might not be representative, but the main diff to the 310 version, is that it feels a little bit firmer, and has more weight in the throat area. Compared to the PST, it's a little less maneuverable and feels a bit more clubby, more towards a RF97A (but without the pop). The PST produces more ballspeed, but with a lower launch angle and modern feel (albeit a solid one). The PST has family traits with the new PS, the DG330 with the IG Prestiges.

Thank's for your detailed answer! I owned and used the PST for a while myself, got one from TWE because of the low price. I was surprised at how maneuverable it was considering it's stability and power. The only knock i had on it was the slight disconnect/erattisisme (kind of what Troy pointed out in the TW playtest) i had with the ball wich made me lose some confidence during point play. I was considering the DG330 as a replacemanet, but i fear it being a lot less maneuverable. I trid the RF97 and it just felt like a hopeless club. If you have any suggestions to what might fit the bill it would be nice to hear.

 

[smalahove]

Thank's for your detailed answer! I owned and used the PST for a while myself, got one from TWE because of the low price. I was surprised at how maneuverable it was considering it's stability and power. The only knock i had on it was the slight disconnect/erattisisme (kind of what Troy pointed out in the TW playtest) i had with the ball wich made me lose some confidence during point play. I was considering the DG330 as a replacemanet, but i fear it being a lot less maneuverable. I trid the RF97 and it just felt like a hopeless club. If you have any suggestions to what might fit the bill it would be nice to hear.

Imo, there's nothing like the PST. I felt it performed at its best when I played focused, aggressive attacking tennis. A little of the gas, and balls often went long or in the net. The two best, nearest alternatives to the PST I've come accross that bridge the divide between the classic player's frame feel and the power of the tweener, are the Prince Textreme Tour 100P and the new Babolat Pure Strike 16x19.

The DG97 is a good alternative if you want a thinner beam and a more solid feel. It is not more stable than the PST, but has that classic Prestige-like feel. And more importantly, it's way plusher than the PST. If you can, try both the 310 and 330 versions. Imo, it's easier to get the 310 up to specs for most players, than the 330 version. I prefer my 310s w/ a little lead @12.

 

[SME]

I've been playing the Duel G97 for a while now; I have both the 310 g and 330 g versions.

It's always difficult to relate to descriptions like "power" and "pop", as we have different perspectives and references. That being said: I've been through a great numbers of frames over the last few years, and to me, this is the best compromise so far, if your prefer thin beamed player's frames. I thought I had found perfect frames in the: Textreme Tour 95 (lacked power), RF97A (too cumbersome/clubby) and the new Pure Strike 16x19 (too stiff, too Babolat'ish and too tweener/hollow-feeling). The DG97 has been a great compromise among above.

Smalahove,

What string setups have you tried and what is your favorites thus far? I found the RF97A to be string sensitive to my taste. Is there a big difference in feel between the 310 vs 330? I realize the 330 should feel smother due to the additional mass.

Have have you hit with the DR98? If so, how does the feel compare with the Duel G?

Thanks

 

[zalive]

Anyone tried to customize Duel G 97 310 to SW of 330 brother, or similar? Do you have a customization suggestion?
I applied 6 grams at 12 o'clock, but results were funny. There emerged a steep short distance between a sweet spot and a dead zone in the upper hoop. So far I experienced nothing similar with the usual roundish or ovalish geometries, but I never had previous experience with Yonex.

 

[topspn]

I added 2.8gms @12. That is an 8 inch tape of TW tungsten which brings it to around 325 SW. I offset under the butt cap with tungsten putty to bring balance as stock. Overall, barely over 12oz and plays really well.

 

[smalahove]

Smalahove,

What string setups have you tried and what is your favorites thus far? I found the RF97A to be string sensitive to my taste. Is there a big difference in feel between the 310 vs 330? I realize the 330 should feel smother due to the additional mass.

Have have you hit with the DR98? If so, how does the feel compare with the Duel G?

Thanks

I've tried MSV Focus Hex, Volk V-Star, V-Torque, Hyper G, TCS and a few others I can't remember. I think they've all felt pretty good. The key for me is mid 40s tension. I found the RF97A to work with quite a few setups as well, but some did feel too stiff, f.inst. a higher tension gut/poly felt stiffer than f.inst. the V-Star.

Right now, I'm playing the 330 one with V-Torque and that's actually string with nice pocketing and low stiffness. Otherwise any soft poly will do.
The diff between the two 310s I have and the 330 one (i.e. these diffs could be a result of spec variation), is that the 330 feels more solid, with more weight in the throat area. I'm not decided on which I prefer; I've played most of the time with the 310s, but since the latest string change, I've gravitated towards the 330, but you shouldn't discount the 310 even if you're used to the RF97A.

I've ventured over to the DR100 due to my TE (less strain/muscle work).

 

[zalive]

I added 2.8gms @12. That is an 8 inch tape of TW tungsten which brings it to around 325 SW. I offset under the butt cap with tungsten putty to bring balance as stock. Overall, barely over 12oz and plays really well.

Well, trouble for me is my FH doesn't use enough lag/release to be satisfied with such design and 325 SW, so I was aiming for 335.

This time I'm doing something else, hopefully tomorrow I can test this properly. 3g at 12 o'clock + 2g at 6 o'clock + 4 g total at 3+9 o'clock. SW 333-334 but sweet spot won't move near as much, plus there's still space for a dampener if needed. Total 4 grams of putty added to the butt. Strung weight 350 grams without a dampener (12.35 oz).

 

[topspn]

Well, trouble for me is my FH doesn't use enough lag/release to be satisfied with such design and 325 SW, so I was aiming for 335.

This time I'm doing something else, hopefully tomorrow I can test this properly. 3g at 12 o'clock + 2g at 6 o'clock + 4 g total at 3+9 o'clock. SW 333-334 but sweet spot won't move near as much, plus there's still space for a dampener if needed. Total 4 grams of putty added to the butt. Strung weight 350 grams without a dampener (12.35 oz).

Let me know how it plays as I find this frame very comfortable but does need the extra SW