Yonex VCORE Pro 100 - how does it stack up vs other 100 sq in options?

naturallight

Semi-Pro
How does Yonex VCORE Pro 100 (300) compare to some other 100 sq in options out there, like DR 100, Pure Strike 100, Speed Pro, Instinct, Pure Aero, Burn, etc?

Importantly, where would the VCORE Pro 100 stand on the comfort scale relative to those other options?

Also curious on how "solid" the VCORE Pro 100 feels.

thanks!
 

redmini

Semi-Pro
Not tried the Pro but I have it’s predecessor (Dual G) and it’s really solid feeling , fast and spin friendly. Most Babolats and Head Speeds in contrast tend to feel hollow.


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redmini

Semi-Pro
The Dr100 is more stable but stiffer and less wieldy than the DG100.

Tw has done a review and they compare the Pro to the DG if I recall correctly.


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DanF1961

Rookie
The Vcore Pro 100 is more on the control side than the typical 100 inch tweener. It has a thinner beam at 21 mm. At 66 RA it's not quite as stiff as the other 100 inch frames. The other factor that makes the VCore Pro 100 more of a control frame is it has 8 main strings in the throat rather than 6 with most tweeners. I demo'd it and it has a nice feel to it. I think it needs a little weight in the hoop and in the handle. Being lower powered, it could play real well with gut or multi mains. I liked it but decided to go with the Pro Kennex KiQ+5 Pro (310) which has a little more power which I need at my advanced age.
 

naturallight

Semi-Pro
Ok good stuff, thanks. How does the VCORE Pro 100 compare on comfort vs the DR98? Night and day? Or not so different?

Also does anyone know if the VCORE Pro 100 has a foam-filled handle?

I want to demo it but I'm a little bummed TW only has it in a multi.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
Ok good stuff, thanks. How does the VCORE Pro 100 compare on comfort vs the DR98? Night and day? Or not so different?

Also does anyone know if the VCORE Pro 100 has a foam-filled handle?

I want to demo it but I'm a little bummed TW only has it in a multi.

The Pro has a crisp comfort. Imagine the perfect consistency in the frame material, just enough cushion to absorb harsh shocks whilst also feeling like you can point and shoot it. The DR on the other hand has a much more muted and disconnected feel. The 100 version of the DR is a stiffer racquet than the Pro, but to me whatever "technology" they have used on it makes it feel over-cushioned and inconsistent. I always find the DR's really hard to describe. When I tried the first blue PJ of DR98 and 100 the feeling I got was something along the lines of "stiff hoop + over cushioned handle and throat". I put this down to the "quake shut gel" that is supposedly inside the frame somewhere.

The Pro handle is not foam filled, nor is the Duel G before it. There is a thin layer of foam sealing the hairpin under the buttcap but under it is hollow.
 

naturallight

Semi-Pro
The Pro has a crisp comfort. Imagine the perfect consistency in the frame material, just enough cushion to absorb harsh shocks whilst also feeling like you can point and shoot it. The DR on the other hand has a much more muted and disconnected feel. The 100 version of the DR is a stiffer racquet than the Pro, but to me whatever "technology" they have used on it makes it feel over-cushioned and inconsistent. I always find the DR's really hard to describe. When I tried the first blue PJ of DR98 and 100 the feeling I got was something along the lines of "stiff hoop + over cushioned handle and throat". I put this down to the "quake shut gel" that is supposedly inside the frame somewhere.

The Pro handle is not foam filled, nor is the Duel G before it. There is a thin layer of foam sealing the hairpin under the buttcap but under it is hollow.
Ok, good to know, thanks. I'm noticing on the TWU vibration scores, the VCORE Pro 100 is 150, while the DR100 is 158, which is pretty high (DR98 is only 141).

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/vibfrequency.cgi
 

redmini

Semi-Pro
Those vibration ratings can mislead a little I found though they are a good start point. Eg the Head Speed XT MPA I had proved much stiffer in practice than its rating (146 if I recall) and gave me a nasty dose of GE which no string made any difference to. So I sold it. Of the many racquets I tried afterwards the stiffness / vibration ratings didn’t always match up to what would or wouldn’t aggravate it. Eg PS97 was ok, and the Yonex VCore Dual G frames (the predecessor to the Pro) were good also (bought one) and better on my arm than the dr98 and Pure Strike and Wilson blade cv, despite the ratings often suggesting otherwise. My Dual G 100 has a higher rating than the Head Speed that gave me GE in the first place. Provided you don’t string them too tight (stay below 50 with polys ) they are solid and pretty comfortable as well as being nicely firm. I expect the Pro is similar.


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redmini

Semi-Pro
Isn’t it on the TW site? They’ve reviewed it so it should be. Also the TW Europe version shows both strung and unstrung specs.


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rios76

Rookie
Isn’t it on the TW site? They’ve reviewed it so it should be. Also the TW Europe version shows both strung and unstrung specs.


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Yes, but i have a different result, so i'd like to make a comparison.
 

redmini

Semi-Pro
Yes, but i have a different result, so i'd like to make a comparison.
There’s an app you can get for iPad / iPhone which can measure sw, called RacquetTune, easy to use and I presume reasonably accurate. Hope this helps. Also can be used to measure and track tension changes in strings.


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blai212

Hall of Fame
I use VCP 100(300g) leaded up with 2.5g at 10/2 and wilson shockshied grip + head hydrosorb to build up 4 1/4 grip size to about 5/8 and dampen shock and im really loving it with tourna big hitter silver 7 tour strung at 47.5/45 lbs. I think DanF1961 was pretty much spot on in his reviews. VCP 100 has the surgical precision of a thin beamed frame but the forgiveness of a 100”. Whenever I tell people it is 100”, they dont believe me because it really handles more like a 97/98” with the 8 mains in the throat. I have also used the ezone 98/100 and dr 98/100...I would say the VCP 100 plays more similar to the 98s...ezone/dr100 feel more clunky. One forum member said it maneuvers like a boat anchor which I would say is quite accurate. I did start getting some shock in my arm from playing several hours every day so I wouldn’t say it’s the most comfortable racquet but it could have been the poly strings in my racquet...ezone definitely feels softer but less control. I read on here that you can put saran wrap in the handle to dampen shock.


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Allcourtguy

Semi-Pro
@blai212, thanks! That is great info. When you say 2.5 grams at 10/2 do you mean 2.5 grams at 10 and 2.5 at 2, or 1.25 at 10 and 1.25 at 2?

Also, do you have plenty of pace for passing shots and putaways? Some of the reviews say the racquet is under powered...

Thanks,
Allcourtguy
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
@blai212, thanks! That is great info. When you say 2.5 grams at 10/2 do you mean 2.5 grams at 10 and 2.5 at 2, or 1.25 at 10 and 1.25 at 2?

Also, do you have plenty of pace for passing shots and putaways? Some of the reviews say the racquet is under powered...

Thanks,
Allcourtguy
2.5 grams total at 10/2 combined. I use 1/4” lead tape where 4” = 1 gram...I have 2.5” at 10/2 on both sides of the racquet. I would start with 1” at 10/2 (which would equate to 1 gram) and just keep progressively adding a little bit more towards the 9 and 3 positions for added stability if u find that the racquet is twisting too much. For lead tape customization in the hoop, you really dont need that much...just enough to provide the stability and plow through that you’re looking for. You just don’t want to have to overswing on shots to artificially create power...you want it to just come naturally. I would also weigh down the handle with heavy replacement grip(s) to get a more head light balance for maneuverability purposes. As for the ‘underpowered’ aspect, I just use a soft comfortable power/spin friendly poly like tourna big hitter silver 7 tour and if you need more power, just lower the tension on the strings.


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Allcourtguy

Semi-Pro
@blai212 , thanks again. I have a VCP 100 being delivered Thursday, the older model. I will try it without weight at first and adjust as I see fit. But it always helps to hear other’s experiences.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
has anyone switched form the Vcore 310 97sq to the 300 100sq? Wondering if it is still stable for returns of big serves and such
 

topspn

Legend
The Vcore Pro 100 is more on the control side than the typical 100 inch tweener. It has a thinner beam at 21 mm. At 66 RA it's not quite as stiff as the other 100 inch frames. The other factor that makes the VCore Pro 100 more of a control frame is it has 8 main strings in the throat rather than 6 with most tweeners. I demo'd it and it has a nice feel to it. I think it needs a little weight in the hoop and in the handle. Being lower powered, it could play real well with gut or multi mains. I liked it but decided to go with the Pro Kennex KiQ+5 Pro (310) which has a little more power which I need at my advanced age.
That is pretty interesting! I was wondering if i had missed out not trying the VP 100 first as I have a KiQ+5 Pro (310) on the way. What were the deciding factors for you? Or just more power
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
has anyone switched form the Vcore 310 97sq to the 300 100sq? Wondering if it is still stable for returns of big serves and such
lead tape easily solves any stability issues. I add 2g at 10/2 and about another 10-12g on handle plus a wilson shock shield grip that is similar in weight to a leather grip. Feels like similar plow through as a 330 but with a 100” frame for more forgiveness. Absolutely wonderful


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heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
lead tape easily solves any stability issues. I add 2g at 10/2 and about another 10-12g on handle plus a wilson shock shield grip that is similar in weight to a leather grip. Feels like similar plow through as a 330 but with a 100” frame for more forgiveness. Absolutely wonderful


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Thanks. but I'm not lead tape guy. With so many options I just get stick that doesn't need any mods other than an overgrip. I guess you didn't find it stable in it's stock form?
 

DanF1961

Rookie
That is pretty interesting! I was wondering if i had missed out not trying the VP 100 first as I have a KiQ+5 Pro (310) on the way. What were the deciding factors for you? Or just more power
At the time the PK was about $169 or $179 and the Yonex was $219. The PK was a tad more powerful and had more comfort. Also, I have a liking for 16x20 string patterns which the PK has. The Yonex had a recent update to the VCORE 100, so it would be interesting to try. I tried the last model.
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
Thanks. but I'm not lead tape guy. With so many options I just get stick that doesn't need any mods other than an overgrip. I guess you didn't find it stable in it's stock form?
just not enough power. The green version is more powerful/stable though. Finding a racquet in stock form that fits u might be tricky...


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